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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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GoodGrief741

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Hey, uhhh, surprised nobody here's discussing this yet

Damn, you're brave for clicking that spoiler tag. Good on you.

But now you don't get to complain if stuff leaks at the last minute. You're clearly looking to be spoiled friendo.
 

KniteBlargh

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I'm hoping for Dante or Doomguy (Geno's the other character in my top three most wanted, though I figure he's much more likely to be post-Pass), but I think I'll be fine with anyone.

After every veteran returning, Ridley and K. Rool being added in the base game, and Banjo and Kazooie being added as DLC, I'm completely satisfied with the roster. (heck, I would have been satisfied with Everyone Is Here, Inkling, and Ridley) Anyone else is an added bonus at this point, and if I'm not familiar with them, it gives me an excuse to play their game(s).
My top three most wanted just aren't happening. LOL Muddy Mole, Prince of Sable, and Elma... While Elma makes more sense than the other two, I would have expected her more in the base game, so I've moved on. Isabelle and Ice Climbers were in my top ten, so there's that, and I didn't even know how much I wanted Piranha Plant.

But yeah, even so, there are sooo many great characters in Ultimate, and I just love the fact that the roster is continuing to expand, period.
 

Hadokeyblade

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I did that but then I got angry at myself for not playing Persona 5 sooner.
Me but for the whole series, it just made me feel bad that I avoided it for so long when these characters have been in the background of my life for like a decade.

Kiryu needs to bring along the Karaoke songs as sung by him and the other playable characters in the series

Behold the singing of the Mad Dog
And when he's not fighting on the stage you can hear him cheering to the music in the background like the karaoke scenes in the actual games
 

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My prediction is that we won't get news on post-pass DLC but as a bonus to everyone that bought the pass, Kasumi from Persona 5 Royal (Echo of Joker) joins the roster, sold separately to those who didn't buy it before the presentation, maybe even have her be revealed in the same trailer as FP5 just like Ken and Incineroar.
I don’t particularly care about echo fighters, but if they added Kasumi and she came with new P5 and P5R songs I’d lose it. I’m still not over the fact that ****ing Life Will Change didn’t make it in.
 

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Hey, uhhh, surprised nobody here's discussing this yet

Damn, you're brave for clicking that spoiler tag. Good on you.

But now you don't get to complain if stuff leaks at the last minute. You're clearly looking to be spoiled friendo.
I've never once stopped myself from looking at leaks, and I don't plan to stop now. I have no self-control.
 

Krankees

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OK, Let's play a new game,

post 4 songs you really want to get into smash via a newcomer from franchises not already in smash! (only exception, Final Fantasy because 2 songs :c)
Doesn't necesarily means that you really want that particular character, but the song or OST making into smash will still be BLISS.

I will start :)

I have these in mind.
1. Bias. Just bias.
Cornered - Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney

2. I'm a little bit familiar with Ninja Gaiden and I love this song.
Unbreakable Determination - Warriors Orochi 3

3. I would take this or the Kiwami remix. Only played Kiwami so far.
Funk Goes On - Yakuza

4. Kingdom Hearts is a good game and it has some good songs.
Tension Rising - Kingdom Hearts 2
 
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My three predictions will be

  1. Fire Emblem
  2. KOSMOS
  3. Arle

Chill with the embeds y'all. Link to the music.
 

andree123

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Show 10 characters that you guess they may be FP5?

Here is mine.
1. Porky
2. Lloyd
3. Kos-mos
4. Arle
5. Doomguy
6. Travis
7. Dante
8. Sylux
9. A human Pokemon character
10. Doshin the Giant
 

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I’m about to head to bed eventually so I might as well write my wishlist, since I most likely won’t post again until after the livestream.

1. Phoenix Wright
2. Hornet
3. Waluigi
4. A Trauma Center: UTK rep
5. And maybe an Undertale rep
 

Hadokeyblade

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I don’t particularly care about echo fighters, but if they added Kasumi and she came with new P5 and P5R songs I’d lose it. I’m still not over the fact that ****ing Life Will Change didn’t make it in.
Persona should have gotten the King of fighters treatment, literally every song in Persona is good enough for smash.
 

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Me but for the whole series, it just made me feel bad that I avoided it for so long when these characters have been in the background of my life for like a decade.


And when he's not fighting on the stage you can hear him cheering to the music in the background like the karaoke scenes in the actual games
For as long as I live, "So Much More" will be engrained into my ****ing subconscious.
 

Icewolff92

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Alright, one last game before the reveal tomorrow...

Let's say that, after this current Fighters Pass, we get an announcement that the next DLC character will be a :ultpiranha:-style "bonus" character that comes completely by itself and isn't connected to any Passes. This character also has to follow the following two rules/guidelines...
  1. The character has to have some reusable assets from Ultimate or the previous Smash games. Assist Trophies, Mii Fighter costumes, regular trophies, in-game model cameos... basically anything that can be used to help the development process go faster than just starting from scratch.
  2. The character will not come with a stage, music, or spirits in order to lessen the workload, so it will likely be a character from a series that already has plenty of those in Smash already.
With those in mind, who would you pick for a hypothetical "bonus" character?
Black Knight... He should have been in instead of Chrom in the first place
 

Krankees

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Hey, uhhh, surprised nobody here's discussing this yet

Damn, you're brave for clicking that spoiler tag. Good on you.

But now you don't get to complain if stuff leaks at the last minute. You're clearly looking to be spoiled friendo.
My thumb can't resist pressing the button. Damn my phone user habits.
 
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The thing that makes me doubt Dante is the DMC Twitter's "important dates" tweet. Unless I'm forgetting something, we've never had an individual or brand associated with the character come forward and allude to a date relating to their Smash reveal before. The only time I can think of something like that occurring is Microsoft listing the Nintendo conference as part of their E3, but that really didn't suggest Banjo's inclusion in Smash as overtly as this. Obviously, we don't have the contracts to fully confirm this fully, but it wouldn't surprise me if even hinting at a date from an account associated with the character would violate some sort of NDA.

This whole thing is giving me flashbacks to 2014, when everyone assumed that Xenoblade's producer retweeting a Smash announcement meant that Shulk would be revealed, only for Robin to be announced during that presentation. Then again, I've been wrong about this thing before, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
 

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Less than 12 more hours to go. Time for the three predictions and also responding to the SEGA Fighter Pass question as well.
First Prediction: Phoenix Wright
Second Prediction: Travis Touchdown
Third Prediction: Saber

SEGA Fighter Pass:
1: Arle Nadja
2: Kazuma Kiryu
3: Demifiend
4: Dr. Eggman
5: Sakura Shinguji and Sakura Amamiya (haidomokizunaaides) as an alternate costume
 
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The thing that makes me doubt Dante is the DMC Twitter's "important dates" tweet. Unless I'm forgetting something, we've never had an individual or brand associated with the character come forward and allude to a date relating to their Smash reveal before. The only time I can think of something like that occurring is Microsoft listing the Nintendo conference as part of their E3, but that really didn't suggest Banjo's inclusion in Smash as overtly as this. Obviously, we don't have the contracts to fully confirm this fully, but it wouldn't surprise me if even hinting at a date from an account associated with the character would violate some sort of NDA.

This whole thing is giving me flashbacks to 2014, when everyone assumed that Xenoblade's producer retweeting a Smash announcement meant that Shulk would be revealed, only for Robin to be announced during that presentation. Then again, I've been wrong about this thing before, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
I'm pretty sure they just announced it, since it is the 16th in Japan - they're adding Style switching to DMC3, like what Dante has in DMC4 and 5.

https://www.siliconera.com/devil-ma...-style-switching-to-royalguard-and-trickster/



Exciting stuff, but not Smash related.
 

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OK, Let's play a new game,

post 4 songs you really want to get into smash via a newcomer from franchises not already in smash! (only exception, Final Fantasy because 2 songs :c)
Doesn't necesarily means that you really want that particular character, but the song or OST making into smash will still be BLISS.
I'm making an exception for Xenoblade Chronicles X because it doesn't have any songs even though the Xeno series is represented.
In the Forest <X→Z ver.>
Serpent Eating the Horizon (But without the first part repeat)
Ghastfall
Firebrand's Theme
The Sun Rises

EDIT: Also I put in 5 tracks. because reasons.
EDIT EDIT: They probably won't put in In the Forest <X→Z ver.> due to the mild language warning it would give the game, which is a shame.
 
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OK, Let's play a new game,

post 4 songs you really want to get into smash via a newcomer from franchises not already in smash! (only exception, Final Fantasy because 2 songs :c)
Doesn't necesarily means that you really want that particular character, but the song or OST making into smash will still be BLISS.

I will start :)
Here are mine:

 
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Megadoomer

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A quick reminder to keep mobile users in mind, and post links in some cases instead of posting a ton of videos. Including a lot of embedded videos in your posts makes it so the page takes a really long time to load. Quoting videos makes the problem worse, and putting them in spoiler tags does nothing to prevent it.
 
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CureParfait

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OK, Let's play a new game,

post 4 songs you really want to get into smash via a newcomer from franchises not already in smash! (only exception, Final Fantasy because 2 songs :c)
Doesn't necesarily means that you really want that particular character, but the song or OST making into smash will still be BLISS.

I will start :)
I would love these songs in Smash
 
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Kokiden

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What's kinda dumb is they already hinted at the stye switching on their actual website. Now they're making it official when it was already known beforehand?

Dante isn't getting into Smash guys. I'd love for him to, but I've already set myself up to believe it's someone else.
 

Megadoomer

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What's kinda dumb is they already hinted at the stye switching on their actual website. Now they're making it official when it was already known beforehand?

Dante isn't getting into Smash guys. I'd love for him to, but I've already set myself up to believe it's someone else.
The hint could have just been referring to how Styles were added in DMC3 when they weren't in DMC1 or 2.
 

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Basically all of the third parties in Smash have such a wealth of characters that passes dedicated to them would be awesome.

Konami: Bomberman, Alucard, Raiden, Goemon, Bill Rizer. Possibly even Frogger, too.
SEGA: Arle, Kiryu, Tails/Eggman, Demi-fiend/Yu Narukami, and Sakura Shinguji.
Capcom: Dante, RE Survivor/Wesker, Amaterasu, Phoenix Wright, and Morrigan.
Bamco: Haruka Amami, Agumon, KOS-MOS, Heihachi Mishima, Lloyd Irving (and I could sub out one of these for the Prince)
Square Enix: Lara Croft, Crono, Classic FF character, Slime, and 2B. Or maybe even Gex.
Microsoft: Steve, Master Chief, Marcus Fenix, Conker, and Joanna Dark.
SNK: Kyo Kusanagi, Geese Howard, Nakoruru, Iori Yagami, and Athena Asamiya. You could sub out a few of those for a Metal Slug rep, or other characters.

Alright, one last game before the reveal tomorrow...

Let's say that, after this current Fighters Pass, we get an announcement that the next DLC character will be a :ultpiranha:-style "bonus" character that comes completely by itself and isn't connected to any Passes. This character also has to follow the following two rules/guidelines...
  1. The character has to have some reusable assets from Ultimate or the previous Smash games. Assist Trophies, Mii Fighter costumes, regular trophies, in-game model cameos... basically anything that can be used to help the development process go faster than just starting from scratch.
  2. The character will not come with a stage, music, or spirits in order to lessen the workload, so it will likely be a character from a series that already has plenty of those in Smash already.
With those in mind, who would you pick for a hypothetical "bonus" character?
Alucard and I don't look back. I'd say Shovel Knight but under condition 2, he's not a pick I'd want. Alucard? Would be amazing. But I'd probably actually do Waluigi for the people.
 
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I thought we stopped listening to Verge and Sabi. Oh well, might as well wait for tomorrow
And why again are you guys relying on Vergeben? I thought we all stopped listening to him.
I know Sabi is down and out because he said Zippo had leaked something when Zippo himself admitted it was all speculation, but why is Vergeben bad?
 

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I know Sabi is down and out because he said Zippo had leaked something when Zippo himself admitted it was all speculation, but why is Vergeben bad?
Ever since the whole deconfirmed multiple gaming company fiasco where he got his sources screwed up.
 

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A quick reminder to keep mobile users in mind, and post links in some cases instead of posting a ton of videos. Including a lot of embedded videos in your posts makes it so the page takes a really long time to load. Quoting videos makes the problem worse, and putting them in spoiler tags does nothing to prevent it.
There are users that AREN'T on mobile?
 

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The thing that makes me doubt Dante is the DMC Twitter's "important dates" tweet. Unless I'm forgetting something, we've never had an individual or brand associated with the character come forward and allude to a date relating to their Smash reveal before. The only time I can think of something like that occurring is Microsoft listing the Nintendo conference as part of their E3, but that really didn't suggest Banjo's inclusion in Smash as overtly as this. Obviously, we don't have the contracts to fully confirm this fully, but it wouldn't surprise me if even hinting at a date from an account associated with the character would violate some sort of NDA.

This whole thing is giving me flashbacks to 2014, when everyone assumed that Xenoblade's producer retweeting a Smash announcement meant that Shulk would be revealed, only for Robin to be announced during that presentation. Then again, I've been wrong about this thing before, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Exactly. Although the evidences are undeniably favorable, the DMC team is throwing too much hype on the smash reveal date on Twitter. Even Dante's voice actor leaked some info about him being in Smash, and to be honest, that's smeels kinda fishy to me. There's no secrecy and that's not how Sakurai usually play. For me, right now, there's a 50% chance Dante is character 5, but maybe they're trying to lure us to reveal someone else. Guess we'll see soon.
 
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