Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[NonSpecificGuy]

So don't know if anyone heard but there's some insider info regarding a rumor Jill Valentine was meant to be in Base roster until being pushed to DLC but Capcom wasn't happy with that and removed her entirely.

Could explain the RE spirits...

Gonna be real with ya, that's really farfetched. If Capcom was approached to have Jill as a character, Base game or otherwise, I'm 100% sure they would have obliged. Especially since the announcement could've coincided with R3make. What's more likely is that those talks just didn't happen.

The spirits will remain an anomaly but it could've just been a marketing move by Capcom to get more fans interested in the series. Not a bad idea to do that in a game that's sold as well as Smash Ultimate has.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I saw some do this in here so I thought of doing it to

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I'd pick the Waluigi path, he himself would be a decent addition, but it's really mostly for Crash and Shovel Knight, both of which I'd love. Bandana Dee would also be really cool, and Isaac and Dixie's fans getting their due would be neat. I like all of the options in that pack, where as the others are a bit hit and miss for me.

 

[Flyboy]

Any Rex timeline is a no from me dawg but having Sol, Layton, Sora, and my favorite empty-headed teacher as pass 2 is enough to mitigate the blow. I guess I'll go with that.

 

[Sour Supreme]

As of today, it has been 2 months since was released.

I'm running out of patience.

 

[Fenriraga]

Gonna be real with ya, that's really farfetched if Capcom was approached to have Jill as a character, Base game or otherwise, I'm 100% sure they would have obliged. Especially since the announcement could've coincided with R3make. What's more likely is that those talks just didn't happen.

The spirits will remain an anomaly but it could've just been a marketing move by Capcom to get more fans interested in the series. Not a bad idea to do that in a game that's sold as well as Smash Ultimate has.

Not to mention that we still got Ken, and Rathalos as a boss, which really makes it hard to believe there was any miscommunication between Nintendo and Capcom.

 

[Krankees]

Point still stands, it really does seem that bullets are more an issue than guns themselves.

Give Joker the fire gun he deserves, Sakurai.

I know I said Bayonetta's guns don't look like real guns but doesn't smash show her shooting actual bullets from her guns.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

As of today, it has been 2 months since was released.

I'm running out of patience.

Obviously Nintendo and Sakurai is trying to torture us.

Much looking forward to February.

Btw I'm being sarcastic here.

 

[Garteam]

N-no. For all the people in charge of age ratings know, those are still actual bullets. It's like how Chris in MvC has particle effects used instead of actual bullet models, it's significantly easier and can be used to visually communicate a hitbox

I'm not talking about the fact that Joker doesn't use real bullets in Persona 5, I'm referring to the fact that Joker's animations in Smash do not display a physical bullet. I agree that ESRB and CERO probably don't care that much about whether the bullet is real or fake, but there's anything resembling a real bullet to begin with.

 

[Yacobo]

As of today, it has been 2 months since was released.

I'm running out of patience.

Same. I crave that feeling of getting a new character, considering making them a new main, and then never playing them again after a week.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

As of today, it has been 2 months since was released.

I'm running out of patience.

this is nothing compared to the 4 month wait of Joker from reveal to release (Or 6 month wait if we're going by reveal of Joker to reveal of Hero/Banjo)

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I'm not talking about the fact that Joker doesn't use real bullets in Persona 5, I'm referring to the fact that Joker's animations in Smash do not display a physical bullet. I agree that ESRB and CERO probably don't care that much about whether the bullet is real or fake, but there's anything resembling a real bullet to begin with.

So MvC has no actual guns due to not visibly showing the bullets? There is no reason to fully model and show the bullets as again, it's common to not do this in fighting games so you can use the muzzleflash as a visual indication of a hitbox. Your argument makes no ****ing sense at all

 

[Hadokeyblade]

I saw some do this in here so I thought of doing it to

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The Sol timeline seems like the best one tbh.

 

[Deleted member]

As of today, it has been 2 months since was released.

I'm running out of patience.

Given how we know literally nothing about FP 5, it's incredibly exciting to guess who it is. Can't wait.

 

[Flyboy]

As of today, it has been 2 months since was released.

I'm running out of patience.

You're gonna be really mad when the DLC cycle ends then, huh

 

[Deleted member]

You're gonna be really mad when the DLC cycle ends then, huh

We're gonna be waiting two more years for Sakurai to tell us Geno's deconfirmed. It's gonna be lit.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Welp

nothing to do now except camp on the smashbros.com page and hit F5 every few minutes in case the New over Characters disappears

that or check FP5’s page just in case they do a copyright boo boo again

also, how long between Banjo and Terry was the New notification missing?

 

[Deleted member]

also, how long between Banjo and Terry was the New notification missing?

Thirty-five and a half hours.

 

[Deleted member]

also, how long between Banjo and Terry was the New notification missing?

Like a week.

 

[Fenriraga]

Welp

nothing to do now except camp on the smashbros.com page and hit F5 every few minutes in case the New over Characters disappears

that or check FP5’s page just in case they do a copyright boo boo again

also, how long between Banjo and Terry was the New notification missing?

Like, two weeks I want to say? Probably less? It wasn't very long at all, honestly.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Oops, I was thinking the wrong thing

Hero was released July 31st right? And EVO was the week after but during EVO the New sticker disappeared but it was for a long while before Banjo officially dropped and Terry was revealed. How long was that?

 

[MooMew64]

Considering how at this point I'd say odds are good we're getting not only FP5 but also Post-Pass 1, I'd say this wait is pretty darn easy compared to the wait from Joker to Hero and Banjo, lol.

 

[Deleted member]

Hero was released July 31st right? And EVO was the week after but during EVO the New sticker disappeared but it was for a long while before Banjo officially dropped and Terry was revealed. How long was that?

About six minutes.

 

[Krankees]

Considering how at this point I'd say odds are good we're getting not only FP5 but also Post-Pass 1, I'd say this wait is pretty darn easy compared to the wait from Joker to Hero and Banjo, lol.

I'm willing to bet that they're gonna fake us out by making us think they're only releasing FP5 and then reveal the post-pass character at the end.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm willing to bet that they're gonna fake us out by making us think they're only releasing FP5 and then reveal the post-pass character at the end.

I bet they already released FP 5 and we just haven't unlocked it yet.

 

[MooMew64]

I'm willing to bet that they're gonna fake us out by making us think they're only releasing FP5 and then reveal the post-pass character at the end.

I don' think they'll do any kind of fake outs, I imagine it'll be pretty straight forward, as they still need to explain how post-pass is even working.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

at least the deadline is pretty close and we even have a deadline in the first place

iirc, there was like a 5 month wait from ryu's release to cloud reveal back in Smash 4. We were pretty much in the dark.

 

[Fenriraga]

Considering how at this point I'd say odds are good we're getting not only FP5 but also Post-Pass 1, I'd say this wait is pretty darn easy compared to the wait from Joker to Hero and Banjo, lol.

Sakurai reveals the final fighter of the pass, but before he leaves, he says he has one last surprise, something the team worked on in their free time...

Deku Baba, from the Zelda series, sticks his head in!

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Hey uh

the maintenance has been extended by one more hour:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501288125914677250/663797461642510346/image0.png (image machine roke)

also, look what’s happening on the 20th:
https://media.discordapp.net/attach...675/663791603038552090/unknown.png?format=png

 

[MooMew64]

Sakurai reveals the final fighter of the pass, but before he leaves, he says he has one last surprise, something the team worked on in their free time...

Deku Baba, from the Zelda series, sticks his head in!

You joke but I'd actually get hyped. That'd be hilarious.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Sakurai reveals the final fighter of the pass, but before he leaves, he says he has one last surprise, something the team worked on in their free time...

Deku Baba, from the Zelda series, sticks his head in!

No! So irrelevant!

They weren't even in the last game.

smh we should get Bokoblin instead.

 

[SKX31]

About six minutes.

I'm willing to bet that they're gonna fake us out by making us think they're only releasing FP5 and then reveal the post-pass character at the end.

Sakurai reveals the final fighter of the pass, but before he leaves, he says he has one last surprise, something the team worked on in their free time...

Deku Baba, from the Zelda series, sticks his head in!

Wait,

So if we take the 45 minute wait between Hero and Banjo, and then account for the 6 minutes between B-K and Terry, that's an 86,66 % reduction in wait time. Applying the same logic (6 minutes * 0,13333...) means that the gap between FP5 and Post Pass 1 will be 0,8 minutes - or 48 seconds.

Looks like you're right Fenriraga .

(IIRC, If it is 40 minutes instead, then the wait is shorter)

 

[Flyboy]

I don' think they'll do any kind of fake outs, I imagine it'll be pretty straight forward, as they still need to explain how post-pass is even working.

The simplest way they could do that is just have the trailer and end with them being added to a new Fighter Pass image with the price and however many mystery slots there are. Then close out with them in the mural.

That of course is dependent on there being a second pass model, but y'know.

 

[MooMew64]

The simplest way they could do that is just have the trailer and end with them being added to a new Fighter Pass image with the price and however many mystery slots there are. Then close out with them in the mural.

That of course is dependent on there being a second pass model, but y'know.

If another season pass is coming, that's for sure what'll happen. However, I don't think post-pass is gonna work how we expect, and I have a feeling that some major fan rules might be broken with it, given that these are character choices that now have been made well after the game was released and they could gauge what fan demand might be.

I have a feeling post-pass is gonna be where the big jaw-dropping and fan-service additions are gonna happen.

 

[wynn728]

Fighter Five can take as long as it needs for reveal, I'm in no rush to find out.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I'm expecting the Smash segment will begin with a trailer for FP5, go through a quick gameplay demo, and then announce they'll be available within two weeks. They'll probably give some minor updates on modes or whatever else will come with the next version, possibly announce a few new Spirits they intend to add (i.e. not DLC ones, more like the RE spirits), and then end with a teaser for the upcoming DLC.

If it's another pass, they'll say that they have a new season coming, but it may just be an unrelated bonus character as well. Either way, I don't expect that character to land or even get a gameplay demo until April at least.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

I saw some do this in here so I thought of doing it to

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Waluigi timeline
Okay: Crash Bandicoot, Isaac, Shovel Knight
Meh: Waluigi, Bandanna Dee, Dixie Kong

Master Chief timeline
Okay: Geno, Dante
Meh: Master Chief, Shantae, Lloyd, Frogger

Sol Badguy timeline
Okay: Sol Badguy, Sora
Meh: Rex & Pyra, Byleth, Monokuma, Layton

Ryu Hayabusa timeline
Okay: Ryu Hayabusa
Meh: KOS-MOS
Oh good lord no!: Reimu, Dragonborn, Steve, Chosen Undead

Ryu Hayabusa timeline literally has nearly every character I don't want in Super Smash Bros so this is a no brainer.

Ryu TL > the other 3

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Hey uh

the maintenance has been extended by one more hour:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501288125914677250/663797461642510346/image0.png (image machine roke)

also, look what’s happening on the 20th:
https://media.discordapp.net/attach...675/663791603038552090/unknown.png?format=png

The week after it is then.

Which I'm fine with since its still within this month.

 

[MooMew64]

Like, I know I'll probably get scoffed at for saying it, but I really think Waluigi has a legit chance in post-pass. I'm not gonna say he's a lock (would never assume that for any character, lol) but I think if it's ever gonna happen, his odds have never looked better IMO.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

So

Judging by that Pass maintenance for the 20th

I guess it’s safe to say FP5 will drop then?

 

[yeet123]

So

Judging by that Pass maintenance for the 20th

I guess it’s safe to say FP5 will drop then?

Nani?!?!?!?