Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Megadoomer]

I don’t even want to imagine that scenario.

But thankfully, most of the franchises you listed have plenty of moveset potential (not sure what Leon or Jills moveset would’ve been like), so I think we won’t have to worry about that. (I hope, at least)

With Jill, there's Marvel vs. Capcom 2 or Marvel vs. Capcom 3 to go off of.

Some people might argue that Leon could be a bit too similar to Snake (if we rule out realistic-looking guns, he's got kicks, suplexes, etc., along with a knife and explosives), but they could easily find ways to make him play differently.

 

[MooMew64]

If DmC got in Smash, the nicest thing I could say is that at least I'd save $5.

 

[nessdeltarune00]

Even if Sakurai was a big fan of xenosaga that may not mean much considering Nintendo picked the DLC and Sakurai probably had no say on who they decided would be taken into consideration beforehand

As unlikely as I think KOS-MOS is, I’m pretty sure that Sakurai picked off a list that Nintendo gave him.

At the end of the day, it was still Sakurais decision. Characters like Joker and Terry show this.

 

[Megadoomer]

If DmC got in Smash, the nicest thing I could say is that at least I'd save $5.

Just to be clear, do you mean Devil May Cry in general, or the reboot?

Considering that Sakurai went out of his way to include Pac-Man's classic design over his Ghostly Adventures one, and ignored Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts pretty much entirely (one taunt is originally from that game, Mumbo can juggle his eyes, and I think that's it in terms of references), I can't imagine that we'd get reboot Dante over the original design. Maybe a palette swap or a spirit at best.

 

[CureParfait]

Whoever FP5 is I just hope they're as exciting as Terry was

At this point I am hoping FP5 is exciting as Joker or even more exciting than Joker.

 

[SNEKeater]

I think it would be an absolute travesty for Smash to miss out on a franchise like Devil May Cry.

Sure, Resi got spirits. It’s also not a franchise that most thought would get a playable fighter. Dante is, like, a perfect fit for Smash and is one of THE hype makers for any fighting game.

You better believe if they pass over him or make him a spirit I’ll be all over that as a gigantic missed opportunity. Great character, great potential for moveset, stage, and music.

While I don’t think he’d be pick 5, I think the releases of DMC on Nintendo platforms is good. I’d also say if DMC doesn’t get spirits for the release of DMC3, Dante will be looking extra good.

I haven’t been paying much attention for the last few weeks because of backlog (I just went ham with the GameStop B2G2 pre-owned sale), and I probably will continue to be scarce until there’s a reveal announcement. Stuff has gotten boring tbh.

Yep. Dante is one of the perfect fits for Smash in my mind.
I don't think DMC would get only spirits. If we get some DMC representation I think it will be Dante as a playable character or absolutely nothing. No Mii costumes neither spirits.

I mean, Bayonetta is in the roster so I don't think there's any reasons for Dante to not getting into Smash. Of course, the decision is up to Sakurai and Nintendo. The DMC releases on the Switch are nice, but I don't think that means something for Dante in Smash. We could get him or not. After all we have characters like Joker, Snake or Cloud.

You can make 4-5 characters in Smash with all the things that Dante can do, so in that regard Sakurai could do a lot of things for him. I don't think Dante would be a very complex character but Sakurai could go that way with him if he wants to bring a good amount of Dante's weapons and abilities.

I don’t even want to imagine that scenario.

But thankfully, most of the franchises you listed have plenty of moveset potential (not sure what Leon or Jills moveset would’ve been like), so I think we won’t have to worry about that. (I hope, at least)

Well, I honestly don't think Leon/Jill moveset would be hard to imagine. I know people said this a lot of times, but if Sakurai can make a moveset for a plant, he definitely could figure out a moveset for a Resident Evil character.
Leon/Jill could bring a little menu mechanic (a reference to classic RE games) where they can choose some items: different weapons, some herbs... Sakurai could pick some things from Jill moveset in Marvel vs Capcom as well.
Maybe a new mechanic: Jill/Leon could escape from grabs thanks to the knife, which would have limited uses per stock, like Wonderwing.

This concept is very cool in my opinion:

 

[MooMew64]

Just to be clear, do you mean Devil May Cry in general, or the reboot?

In general. Series ain't my thing.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

In general. Series ain't my thing.

Not liking the series is fine, it's got a pretty specific appeal, but please do not call the entire franchise DmC, that's the reboot attempt and I will personally go to your house and cry to make you uncomfortable if you keep calling the whole series DmC

 

[Dinoman96]

Honestly, I think what happened with Resident Evil may have something to do with the fact that Capcom already has three different characters: Mega Man, Ryu and Ken. Perhaps they thought a 4th Capcom rep would of been overkill.

It's just weird. Resident Evil, as well as Monster Hunter and Bomberman, all feel like IPs that could of easily gotten playable reps in Smash, but instead they just settled for spirits, assist trophies and bosses. I just wonder if that's because they figured that Konami and Capcom already had enough reps as is, with both of them having three fighters each.

 

[wynn728]

Even if Sakurai was a big fan of xenosaga that may not mean much considering Nintendo picked the DLC and Sakurai probably had no say on who they decided would be taken into consideration beforehand

Oh yeah, Sakurai totally had no influence on who got in, that's why three of the characters come from series Sakurai really loves. I find it too much of a coincidence that Nintendo were the ones who picked Joker & Terry when those are two characters that Sakurai really really loves.

Either Sakurai had more influence than he said he had or Nintendo created a list of characters that fit Sakurai's interest.

 

[BernkastelWitch]

Oh yeah, Sakurai totally had no influence on who got in, that's why three of the characters come from series Sakurai really loves. I find it too much of a coincidence that Nintendo were the ones who picked Joker & Terry when those are two characters that Sakurai really really loves.

Either Sakurai had more influence than he said he had or Nintendo created a list of characters that fit Sakurai's interest.

I imagine the list was either very, very big or people at Nintendo of Sakurai's tastes very well. At least how I see it.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Oh yeah, Sakurai totally had no influence on who got in, that's why three of the characters come from series Sakurai really loves. I find it too much of a coincidence that Nintendo were the ones who picked Joker & Terry when those are two characters that Sakurai really really loves.

Either Sakurai had more influence than he said he had or Nintendo created a list of characters that fit Sakurai's interest.

We also don't know the size of the list or how it's worded, it could be names of the characters or the names of the companies.


Also FP5 is Tifa, the reason it's taking so long to get Smash news is because she got cancelled after Sakurai saw her use a slur in the original version, she'll only be allowed back in if the slur is removed in the remake

 

[Megadoomer]

Oh yeah, Sakurai totally had no influence on who got in, that's why three of the characters come from series Sakurai really loves. I find it too much of a coincidence that Nintendo were the ones who picked Joker & Terry when those are two characters that Sakurai really really loves.

Either Sakurai had more influence than he said he had or Nintendo created a list of characters that fit Sakurai's interest.

SNK's gone through a major resurgence in recent years, between King of Fighters 14, Samurai Shodown, and getting guest spots in (among others) Tekken 7 and Soul Calibur 6. (both of which were developed by Bandai-Namco, the company that's working on Smash Bros.) On top of that, they've been extremely eager to put games on the Switch (they've got more retro games on there than Nintendo themselves, most likely), and they've been around for a while. It doesn't seem like much of a stretch that Nintendo would be okay with their inclusion, or that they'd list an SNK character (like Terry, the face of the company) as a possible option for Sakurai to include.

I can't speak much for Joker, since I'm not as familiar with the Persona series, but I can't imagine that Sega would be difficult to work with, given that Sonic's been in Smash for over ten years now.

 

[Deleted member]

Highly doubt Slayer would be one since Sakurai called Doom the “father of FPS”.

This is misinfo, the one who Sakurai calls the father of FPS is John Carmack not Doom. John Carmack was also involved with Wolfenstein 3D and Quake which are also highly influential FPS titles.

Source: https://www.sourcegaming.info/2016/01/21/sakuraixnomuraparttwo/

I can't even recall Sakurai mentioning Doom or any other FPS aside Halo or Half-Life.

 

[osby]

Oh yeah, Sakurai totally had no influence on who got in, that's why three of the characters come from series Sakurai really loves. I find it too much of a coincidence that Nintendo were the ones who picked Joker & Terry when those are two characters that Sakurai really really loves.

Either Sakurai had more influence than he said he had or Nintendo created a list of characters that fit Sakurai's interest.

Dragon Quest is the franchise that defined the JRPG genre. King of Fighters (which born from Fatal Fury) is SNK's flagship title which is probably one of the most famous fighting game developers around along with Capcom. Persona is a consistent critical success for over 20 years and Persona 5 is widely considered to be the best RPG of its console generation.

Now, hindsight is 20/20 and even if Sakurai is a fan of dozens of franchises, saying his personal preferences didn't play a role in DLC selection might be a stretch. But just because he likes a game doesn't mean it has no merits on its own and Nintendo can't see it as a sensible choice by themselves.

 

[SNEKeater]

Honestly, I think what happened with Resident Evil may have something to do with the fact that Capcom already has three different characters: Mega Man, Ryu and Ken. Perhaps they thought a 4th Capcom rep would of been overkill.

It's just weird. Resident Evil, as well as Monster Hunter and Bomberman, all feel like IPs that could of easily gotten playable reps in Smash, but instead they just settled for spirits, assist trophies and bosses. I just wonder if that's because they figured that Konami and Capcom already had enough reps as is, with both of them having three fighters each.

I don't think that's a problem. I seriously doubt Sakurai pays a lot of attention to the quantity of characters that each third party has.
If for some reason that's true and Sakurai doesn't want more than 3 reps per company for some reason, closing Capcom representation with Ken is a bit underwhelming when you could bring a new franchise. And this is coming from someone who likes Ken a lot.

 

[Garteam]

Fighter #5 is Rich Evans, Sakurai is going on Ellen this Monday to announce this. **** the Birthday Boy is an alt.

 

[wynn728]

Dragon Quest is the franchise that defined the JRPG genre. King of Fighters (which born from Fatal Fury) is SNK's flagship title which is probably one of the most famous fighting game developers around along with Capcom. Persona is a consistent critical success for over 20 years and Persona 5 is widely considered to be the best RPG of its console generation.

Now, hindsight is 20/20 and even if Sakurai is a fan of dozens of franchises, saying his personal preferences didn't play a role in DLC selection might be a stretch. But just because he likes a game doesn't mean it has no merits on its own and Nintendo can't see it as a sensible choice by themselves.

Sakurai didn't just like Persona 5 and Fatal Fury, he gone on record that he loves them. He said that King of Fighters inspired him to make Smash Bros and he had interviews where he gushes over Persona 5 and it's style.

Also Hero was majority chosen for market seeing how they always mention Smash Bros with Dragon Quest XI S any time they get.

 

[KatKit]

CARMEN SANDIEGO​

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Discuss, if you think about she qualifies and is perfect/desirable in many ways.

Qualifies is a total understatement. I think it'd be great if she got in for tons of reasons! She's a villain. She's a hero. She's retro. She's iconic. She's recognizable. She's a pop culture phenomenon. She was and still is the prime example of her respective genre. She has history with Nintendo. She has multigenerational appeal and she never faded into obscurity; in other words, she's always been relevant. She has countless games they can reference in her moveset. She is so wacky and such a great thief, she could introduce ridiculous mechanics/features like stealing moves and stage platforms, and distorting the sound of other character's audio/speech. She's a rare example of a character that can break the 4th wall and reference the real world that would still fit into Smash. Everything from her stage, music, and spirit battles would be super awesome. And now for the copy/paste.

Carmen would represent early PC gaming and her franchise is the pinnacle of the 'edutainment' genre; she's a pioneer and still the prime example of it. They not only somehow managed to be fun during a time when most early computer games simply weren't, they were also educational. They've sold millions of them; that is quite a feat. She's also appeared on a few Nintendo consoles, too! All of this, and she has a bunch of different educational TV shows that are way better than they have any right to be.

Moreover, the thing about Carmen is that she not only has a legacy, but she's never faded into obscurity. She has a signature look that crept its way into pop culture. Whether you recognize her from comics, TV shows, or her games, you know who she is. She's also getting an upcoming live action movie. People from like... 3 different generations can recognize her from something. That is another accomplishment. Especially for a video game character.

She's also a rare example of a protagonist/antagonist combo. She's a villain and a hero!

She's a Latina who's voiced by Rita Moreno and Gina Rodriguez, so as far as I'm concerned, she's also Puerto Rican like me, so yay.

The only thing I'm unsure of is Japanese presence

To be honest, Carmen could be anywhere, let alone Japan! Jokes aside, at least she had a game set in the location.

More importantly, one of the best things to come out of the Netflix reboot is Shadowsan...

And I wouldn't be surprised if he'd make the series more popular out there, whenever they turn Netflix Carmen into a game. But what makes Carmen so interesting is that she'd represent all of us because she's global. The series is great because it tries to teach a little something about the whole world.

Though speaking of Japan... here's a song I'd like to get remixed:

 

[SKX31]

I think it would be an absolute travesty for Smash to miss out on a franchise like Devil May Cry.

Sure, Resi got spirits. It’s also not a franchise that most thought would get a playable fighter. Dante is, like, a perfect fit for Smash and is one of THE hype makers for any fighting game.

You better believe if they pass over him or make him a spirit I’ll be all over that as a gigantic missed opportunity. Great character, great potential for moveset, stage, and music.

While I don’t think he’d be pick 5, I think the releases of DMC on Nintendo platforms is good. I’d also say if DMC doesn’t get spirits for the release of DMC3, Dante will be looking extra good.

I haven’t been paying much attention for the last few weeks because of backlog (I just went ham with the GameStop B2G2 pre-owned sale), and I probably will continue to be scarce until there’s a reveal announcement. Stuff has gotten boring tbh.

While I do generally agree, I'm one (of the very few here, probably) who messes around with Spirits occassionally. Wesker's proven to be one of my favorite Spirits to use: His Attack stat is on par with 4-Stars, despite "only" being a 3 star (like the Jinjonator). He's also got Fist Attack+ and 3 support slots, making him one of the ideal Spirits for One Punch Mac. Even without One Punch Wesker's also really fun to mess around with.

Still, yes, I fully support Dante's inclusion. I do kinda wonder which game he'd borrow most from (my guess is 3, but the other games bar 2 are also good sources for attacks).

SNK's gone through a major resurgence in recent years, between King of Fighters 14, Samurai Shodown, and getting guest spots in (among others) Tekken 7 and Soul Calibur 6. (both of which were developed by Bandai-Namco, the company that's working on Smash Bros.) On top of that, they've been extremely eager to put games on the Switch (they've got more retro games on there than Nintendo themselves, most likely), and they've been around for a while. It doesn't seem like much of a stretch that Nintendo would be okay with their inclusion, or that they'd list an SNK character (like Terry, the face of the company) as a possible option for Sakurai to include.

I can't speak much for Joker, since I'm not as familiar with the Persona series, but I can't imagine that Sega would be difficult to work with, given that Sonic's been in Smash for over ten years now.

Worth noting also is that SNK's current owners (the Chinese joint venture) have given SNK loads of freedom - and money - to do stuff. And evidently it's working wonders for SNK.

As far as Joker, well, it is Atlus' peak so far as a developer (even before Joker's reveal) and a GotY contender. I don't think Furukawa (or the other Nintendo execs) would have any problems starting FP off with such a character.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Hero was majority chosen for market

It's believed that DQ heroes had a lot of votes on the ballot, and Eight in particular was chosen because of his Western votes.

 

[Opossum]

Also Hero was majority chosen for market seeing how they always mention Smash Bros with Dragon Quest XI S any time they get.

Sakurai said Dragon Quest was always a popular request. Your narrative makes no sense.

 

[nessdeltarune00]

Is the general consensus right now that there is a good chance of FP5 potentially being somewhat niche?

 

[osby]

Also Hero was majority chosen for market seeing how they always mention Smash Bros with Dragon Quest XI S any time they get.

This is like saying Sonic chosen for marketing because his franchise was getting new games during Brawl's release.

 

[CureParfait]

Is the general consensus right now that there is a good chance of FP5 potentially being somewhat niche?

I think so. Either that or the FP5 is a first party character.

 

[cmbsfm]

If the Cacodemon leak is real, it almost assuredly means Doom Marine and Geno are coming.

While Wave 1 of the Mii costumes came with the returning Tails and Knuckles costumes to match Joker, all of the new costumes were from Persona. Likewise, Wave 2's new costumes were exclusively Dragon Quest, we didn't see anything like a Sora or Tifa costume. Wave 3 didn't have any Microsoft costumes, Banjo or otherwise, so we really can't use that for data.

The only exception to this trend thus far is Wave 4, which featured new Mii fighter costumes from series that weren't Fatal Fury. However, not only was Terry's pack much of more a general SNK pack than a Fatal Fury pack, but it makes sense to have costumes from KoF and Samurai Showdown given how interconnected the SNKverse is. The same really can't be said for Doom and Elder Scrolls or Super Mario RPG and Square's other series.

This is what I was arguing in the Doom thread earlier.

The other thing is that ID and Bethesda are sister companies, Bethesda doesn’t own ID themselves, so I’d imagine that they’d have to talk to ID too for a mii costume.

If they didn’t make a Metal Slug mii gunner when they easily could’ve, I don’t think they would make a Doom one either. But still, it is easily possible for them to send Doomguy to Mii Costume hell, who knows.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Anyway to mention the Carmen Sandiego talk from a while back, I have no experience with the franchise at all but hey, a sneaky spy would be cool to see, she'd also be the first character with dark skin since Ganondorf and the fact that Ganon is the only one is honestly quite a shame

 

[wynn728]

Sakurai said Dragon Quest was always a popular request. Your narrative makes no sense.

I said "majority chosen for marketing" meaning that some of the reason is fan request and the other reason is for promoting. The series creator kept saying how he wanted Dragon Quest to do well in the west and every time Dragon Quest XI S was mention they brought up Smash Bros. The September Direct literally said "HEY YOU KNOW ABOUT HERO IN SMASH BROS? WELL YOU SHOULD GET HIS GAME DRAGON QUEST XI S!!!" You can't deny how much promotion and marketing that when into Dragon Quest XI S by using Smash Bros.

Also find it hard to fully believe it was a popular request when you look at SourceGaming's Japanese Poll of requested character and don't see a Dragon Quest character appear in one of them until they did their 2019 poll.

 

[Flyboy]

Sakurai has gone on record saying that Hero/DQ in general (including Slime) was a big ballot choice. Luminary being the default was probably something they did to make him current and marketable, yes, but it's not hard to think of Erdrick or Slime being major players in the ballot when they've been fan requests since the Japanese-only Melee ballot. If you consider that Hero was initially considered for base as well it makes a ton of sense since characters like the veterans, Simon, K. Rool, and others were all picked due to the ballot. DQ is similar to Mega Man or Banjo-Kazooie (or if I may be self-indulgent, Ace Attorney or No More Heroes) in that while they may not be Nintendo-only/first-party franchises, they're inexorably tied to Nintendo in many fans' eyes.

DQ was a ballot pick and fan favorite. It's also an incredibly influential and popular series. I can't believe we're having this conversation.

 

[cmbsfm]

I think Hero was picked primarily for DQ’s legacy and the marketing for DQXI was just an added bonus for Nintendo and Square.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I said "majority chosen for marketing" meaning that some of the reason is fan request and the other reason is for promoting. The series creator kept saying how he wanted Dragon Quest to do well in the west and every time Dragon Quest XI S was mention they brought up Smash Bros. The September Direct literally said "HEY YOU KNOW ABOUT HERO IN SMASH BROS? WELL YOU SHOULD GET HIS GAME DRAGON QUEST XI S!!!" You can't deny how much promotion and marketing that when into Dragon Quest XI S by using Smash Bros.

Also find it hard to fully believe it was a popular request when you look at SourceGaming's Japanese Poll of requested character and don't see a Dragon Quest character appear in one of them until they did their 2019 poll.

Can you tell me how many people were on that poll and how the polling was made? Because this is giving me real 'guys look at this poll it has 10 whole votes and is therefore accurate for the entire community' vibes

 

[Schnee117]

Also find it hard to fully believe it was a popular request when you look at SourceGaming's Japanese Poll of requested character and don't see a Dragon Quest character appear in one of them until they did their 2019 poll.

https://www.siliconera.com/masahiro...imates-hero-dlc-director-philosophy-and-more/

From Sakurai’s side, he says that requests to add in a Dragon Quest representative have been around for a long time

 

[nessdeltarune00]

I think so. Either that or the FP5 is a first party character.

Hopefully it is the former, because then my most wanted may have a legit chance at being FP5.

 

[osby]

I said "majority chosen for marketing" meaning that some of the reason is fan request and the other reason is for promoting. The series creator kept saying how he wanted Dragon Quest to do well in the west and every time Dragon Quest XI S was mention they brought up Smash Bros. The September Direct literally said "HEY YOU KNOW ABOUT HERO IN SMASH BROS? WELL YOU SHOULD GET HIS GAME DRAGON QUEST XI S!!!" You can't deny how much promotion and marketing that when into Dragon Quest XI S by using Smash Bros.

Also find it hard to fully believe it was a popular request when you look at SourceGaming's Japanese Poll of requested character and don't see a Dragon Quest character appear in one of them until they did their 2019 poll.

So what you're saying is Banjo was a shill pick because Sakurai said "go buy an Xbox" during his presentation and that makes his fan demand invalid.

 

[wynn728]

Can you tell me how many people were on that poll and how the polling was made? Because this is giving me real 'guys look at this poll it has 10 whole votes and is therefore accurate for the entire community' vibes

It's right here on how they conducted their poll. I know polls isn't the definitive answers, but it does give a good idea on what people are thinking and what characters are talked about the most. Looking through there isn't a mention of Dragon Quest, if the series was really requested back in 2015 then we would've saw some kind of mention more prominently back then instead of how support for it really took off in 2019 when Brave was datamined.
https://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/09/13/japantopdlcpt2/

 

[Schnee117]

It's right here on how they conducted their poll. I know polls isn't the definitive answers, but it does give a good idea on what people are thinking and what characters are talked about the most. Looking through there isn't a mention of Dragon Quest, if the series was really requested back in 2015 then we would've saw some kind of mention more prominently back then instead of how support for it really took off in 2019 when Brave was datamined.
https://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/09/13/japantopdlcpt2/

Essentially, I read over 1,000 posts, tweets, etc and counted how often a character’s name was mentioned, and in what context. This time, I decided to add “points” based on how that user felt about the character. If a user felt that a character was a “shoo-in” then I awarded more points. On the reverse, if a character was seen as “less-likely” then they got less “points”. The reason I did this is because this method is highly ineffective for actually counting how much a character is requested. This is because with this method, I’m bound to pick up on the loudest fanbases. The loudest fanbase is not necessarily the biggest. Instead of acting like I can actually measure the biggest fanbase, I decided to fully embrace measuring the loud fanbases.

Did you miss the bold text or something?

 

[wynn728]

So what you're saying is Banjo was a shill pick because Sakurai said "go buy an Xbox" during his presentation and that makes his fan demand invalid.

Did you not read my blood comment? I never said that was the entire reason, you can have multiple reason of including a character. For Sakurai & Nintendo they could've saw this a killing two birds with one stone by having a requested character in and marketing Dragon Quest XI S in the west. Why is this so hard for people to wrap their mind around this? Why are so many people dismissive about how they used Smash Bros to market Dragon Quest XI S?

 

[Opossum]

Did you not read my blood comment? I never said that was the entire reason, you can have multiple reason of including a character. For Sakurai & Nintendo they could've saw this a killing two birds with one stone by having a requested character in and marketing Dragon Quest XI S in the west. Why is this so hard for people to wrap their mind around this? Why are so many people dismissive about how they used Smash Bros to market Dragon Quest XI S?

Considering you, in the past, have explicitly stated that only one DLC newcomer was a fan request, referring to Banjo-Kazooie, your intent is pretty clear lmao.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It's right here on how they conducted their poll. I know polls isn't the definitive answers, but it does give a good idea on what people are thinking and what characters are talked about the most. Looking through there isn't a mention of Dragon Quest, if the series was really requested back in 2015 then we would've saw some kind of mention more prominently back then instead of how support for it really took off in 2019 when Brave was datamined.
https://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/09/13/japantopdlcpt2/

That... That's not how polls work, if I'm reading this right then how likely you consider a character affects the character's placement and basically namesearching on twitter isn't being put on a poll either. Not to mention that DQ3 is pretty much the Halo 3 of Japanese games and how DQ11 sold better than Mario Odyssey long before a Switch version was announced

 

[wynn728]

Did you miss the bold text or something?

Did you not read my comment? I acknowledge that, it's just suppose to give an idea. If their was a high request for Dragon Quest then there would've been something, just an idea of where it stands. I'm not using these polls as the BE ALL END ALL of character support, just to get an idea of what characters are talked about in Japan.