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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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Dutch Raikuna

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BONUS: It's time for a new game! If you could make a new Fighter's Pass but it can only include 4th Party characters, who would you choose? Grey area characters such as Geralt are allowed.

1. Geralt of Rivia (The Witcher)
2. Shrek (Shrek)
3. Minoru Mineta (My Hero Academia)
4. Jar Jar Binks (Star Wars)
5. Kermit the Frog (The Muppets)
Predominantly anime for me.

1. John Wick (as long as he uses the pencil)
2. Rimuru Tempest (Reincarnated as a Slime)
3. Ruby Rose (RWBY) - BlazBlue made me realise how amazing it would be to see her as a Smash Bros character. Music selection is the other reason. One of the best soundtracks out of any media I have encountered.
4. Aqua, Kazuma, Darkness and (Best anime character) Megumin (Konosuba). All as a joke party system together.
5. Lego Indiana Jones cause why not.
 

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FP5: The Last Dragonborn (The Elder Scrolls)

Season 2:
1. Crash Bandicoot (Crash Bandicoot)
2. Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney)
3. Prince of All Cosmos (Katamari)
4. Rayman (Rayman) OR Ezio/Conner (Assassin's Creed)
5. Dr. Eggman (Sonic the Hedgehog) OR AiAi (Super Monkey Ball)

Season 3:

1. Chosen Undead (Dark Souls)
2. Gex (Gex)
3. Gandhi (Sid Meier's Civilization)
4. Steve (Minecraft) OR Master Chief (Halo)
5. Quote (Cave Story)


BONUS: It's time for a new game! If you could make a new Fighter's Pass but it can only include 4th Party characters, who would you choose? Grey area characters such as Geralt are allowed.

1. Geralt of Rivia (The Witcher)
2. Shrek (Shrek)
3. Minoru Mineta (My Hero Academia)
4. Jar Jar Binks (Star Wars)
5. Kermit the Frog (The Muppets)
1. Josuke Higashikata (JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure: Diamond is Unbreakable)
2. Geralt (The Witcher)
3. Yami Yugi (Yu-Gi-Oh!)
4. Ruby Rose (RWBY)
5. Ladybug (Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir)
 

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I see two scenarios both of which involve a January/February direct.

One in which the 5th character is revealed at the end of the Direct and another where the 5th character is shown off first and it ends on the fist post pass character been shown.
 

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Is it finally time for the best Link?
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Complete with the Ice Rod, Fire Rod, Tornado Rod, Hammer, Pegasus Boots, and a Spin Attack that allows you to move while charging? It's about time!

It didn't happen, but I actually really wanted to see ALBW or ALttP Link in Ultimate.
Bruh...

I would kill for this to be the default Link in whatever Smash reboot happens after Ultimate. And I think it would work best because you could incorporate elements from adult Link and the younger Link's in to one character.
 

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FP5: The Last Dragonborn (The Elder Scrolls)

Season 2:
1. Crash Bandicoot (Crash Bandicoot)
2. Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney)
3. Prince of All Cosmos (Katamari)
4. Rayman (Rayman) OR Ezio/Conner (Assassin's Creed)
5. Dr. Eggman (Sonic the Hedgehog) OR AiAi (Super Monkey Ball)

Season 3:

1. Chosen Undead (Dark Souls)
2. Gex (Gex)
3. Gandhi (Sid Meier's Civilization)
4. Steve (Minecraft) OR Master Chief (Halo)
5. Quote (Cave Story)


BONUS: It's time for a new game! If you could make a new Fighter's Pass but it can only include 4th Party characters, who would you choose? Grey area characters such as Geralt are allowed.

1. Geralt of Rivia (The Witcher)
2. Shrek (Shrek)
3. Minoru Mineta (My Hero Academia)
4. Jar Jar Binks (Star Wars)
5. Kermit the Frog (The Muppets)
1. Scrooge McDuck (DuckTales) - NES icon, great music, plus I just really like DuckTales.

2. James Bond (GoldenEye 007) - Specifically based on his N64 look and arsenal, with other Bonds as alts.

3. Geralt of Rivia (The Witcher) - Not a personal pick but I can't deny the popularity and impact of the Witcher games and the music they'd bring to the table. Plus I'd get to use my Witcher voice while playing to annoy my friends constantly.

4. Hatsune Miku (Project Diva) - She's an icon, would come with tons of amazing music, and is one of the top rhythm game reps in my eyes. I'd love to see it.

5. Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) - This is just my personal bias pick. I love One Piece. He's always been fun to play in the Pirate Warriors games and in his other arena battlers. He's a great character. I'd have fun with it.

I think keeping it to ones with impact on gaming with one bias pick makes sense.
 
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But Will! Smash is too popular to discontinue! Nintendo obviously won't let it end after Ultimate!
That just means we'll get Ultra Super Smash Bros Ultimate as the definitive edition of Smash Ultimate. And then later Championship edition.
 
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But Will! Smash is too popular to discontinue! Nintendo obviously won't let it end after Ultimate!
I mean, it's true.

Nintendo not choosing to continue the series without Sakurai is a (small) possibility but there's zero reason for a reboot.
 

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people still think that's happening?
I mean there's not much farther left to go after Ultimate anyways. Anything released after this game is going to be a step down.

It remains to be seen yeah but I think it's the likely outcome.
 

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That just means we'll get Ultra Super Smash Bros Ultimate as the definitive edition of Smash Ultimate. And then later Championship edition.
That's the route I'd rather have it go. Keep porting Ultimate with constant updates and additions. Because no Smash game afterwards will never top what's Ultimate.
 

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But Will! Smash is too popular to discontinue! Nintendo obviously won't let it end after Ultimate!
It's called making a new game.

I mean there's not much farther left to go after Ultimate anyways. Anything released after this game is going to be a step down.

It remains to be seen yeah but I think it's the likely outcome.
The likely outcome? There's zero reasons for a reboot in general. They just need to step down at worst.

As far as I knew most people thought the next game will be at least a soft reboot that takes an axe to the roster and redo the characters that aren't cut. Personally, I could see the roster thinned out a bit, but not to the degree of only having 30 characters or something.
I don't see that as a reboot. A reboot would be a reimagining of the first game with just the twelve fighters with the modernized fighting mechanics.
 

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That just means we'll get Ultra Super Smash Bros Ultimate as the definitive edition of Smash Ultimate. And then later Championship edition.
Eventually it’ll be Ultra Super Smash Bros Ultimate II.8 Final ReMix Turbo Championship Prepare To Die Edition :&: Featuring Dante From The Devil May Cry Series With A New Funky Mode

bonus content includes:
  • Batman
 

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I don't see that as a reboot. A reboot would be a reimagining of the first game with just the twelve fighters with the modernized fighting mechanics.
I wouldn't call that a reboot either...Now that I think about it can you actually reboot a series that doesn't have any sort of continuity? I feel like it'd have to have a gameplay overhaul so large that you wouldn't really recognize it as the same game.

Now that sounds familiar.
Yeesh! The similarities are huge! With how well that went I'd say Smash needs to stay away from this idea as a main entry. Perhaps they could to the re-imagining thing as a fundraiser/demo since they could just use the assets that they were building for the main game. They could even throw in Marth, Bowser, Mewtwo, and King Dedede.
 

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Now that sounds familiar.
As horrendous as that launch actually was, Capcom did a great job with SFV honestly. I mean, it has survived.

Eventually it’ll be Ultra Super Smash Bros Ultimate II.8 Final ReMix Turbo Championship Prepare To Die Edition :&: Featuring Dante From The Devil May Cry Series With A New Funky Mode

bonus content includes:
  • Batman
Will it be 4K? 8K? Ultra VR? Will it also get a rerelease on the PlayStation 9 in 2078?

 
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As horrendous as that launch actually was, Capcom did a great job with SFV honestly. I mean, it has survived.
It has its following. Now I just need the game to actually be complete before I pick it up again. I was so so soured by that original launch.
 

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That just means we'll get Ultra Super Smash Bros Ultimate as the definitive edition of Smash Ultimate. And then later Championship edition.
I mean TBH, this is the angle I want to see for the next Smash. Just keep adding on to Ultimate and expanding the roster.

I can't see it happening because of licensing reasons and whatnot.
 

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I mean TBH, this is the angle I want to see for the next Smash. Just keep adding on to Ultimate and expanding the roster.

I can't see it happening because of licensing reasons and whatnot.
Licensing is just a matter of money right? With how much cheddar Ultimate made renewing the licenses should be easy cause they got the Benjamins to spare and more
 

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Yikes, I was already reported. Lame.

I was also thinking Tiny kong or lanky kong, yuri from tales of vesperia, velvet from tales of berseria. I'd be extremely happy if they put in a tales character, though Lloyd was thrown in the trash :(
Don't worry. It happens to the best of us.

Welcome to the forum btw. I would also like a Tales character, namely, Velvet Crowe.
 

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Me: "I wonder if anything noteworthy has happened in the last day since I got on..."

*Sees post about fourth-party characters*

*Sees posts about KOS-MOS*

Also me: "Nope...didn't miss anything."

But if I were to pick only fourth-party characters for a pass:

1. Mickey Mouse
2. Geralt
3. A Marvel Character (probably Spider-Man)
4. A DC Character (probably Batman)
5. Goku
 

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I mean TBH, this is the angle I want to see for the next Smash. Just keep adding on to Ultimate and expanding the roster.

I can't see it happening because of licensing reasons and whatnot.
imagine not wanting your characters in smash in 2019

seriously when sakurai tells japanese viewers to go buy a ****ing xbox you'd be throwing banjo in every game
 
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Don't worry. It happens to the best of us.



Welcome to the forum btw. I would also like a Tales character, namely, Velvet Crowe.
Don't even talk to me unless you get five double post warnings in the same month.
 

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Don't even talk to me unless you get five double post warnings in the same month.
Don't even talk to me unless you've barely escaped the wrath of ban smite fifteen times in five years and out of those five years you were gone for half
 
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That just means we'll get Ultra Super Smash Bros Ultimate as the definitive edition of Smash Ultimate. And then later Championship edition.
Actually, that would be the dream. Keep what's working, rework what isn't, add a new mode or two (Targets, Smash Run), maybe one or two new bosses, about half a dozen new characters like Ultimate's base game and one or two seasons of DLC.

I'd gladly buy Definitive Edition.
 

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Gale will not touch 4th parties, but the lack of Wizard antagonist Lucas Barton & Power Glove is a damn shame.

 
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Smash won't get a reboot after Ultimate. Just updated versions of Ultimate, probably with a slightly different engine, mostly the same graphics but polished up, the same cast but with newcomers and new Echoes and a few new modes and a totally new Adventure Mode.

I think it's 90% likely this will happen. And maybe a spin off with a total different sort of gameplay, like a traditional fighter or something.

In case Smash goes the traditional fighter route, I expect way less goofy, gimicky and kiddy fighters and mostly mature and cool looking characters, along with a few fan favourites. Kirby and Pikachu will still be there of course.
 
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Gonna be controversial and say Smash Ultimate should stop being made after a certain point. I'd hate the series to become overbloated and a gradual decline of quality is inevitable if it continues infinitely. At a maximum, 15 DLC fighters is a fantastic newcomer selection.

Plus I think Nintendo should focus more on games that aren't Smash Bros. They did a good job this year with games, but god damn. Half of them were buried by speculation, and albeit that's more a me-issue than a Nintendo issue.
 
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Gonna be controversial and say Smash Ultimate should stop being made after a certain point. I'd hate the series to become overbloated and a gradual decline of quality is inevitable if it continues infinitely.

At a maximum, 15 DLC fighters is a fantastic newcomer selection.
I wouldn't worry about it, mainly because TBH I think people are really overhyping how much post-pass content we're gonna get.

They never even said we'd be getting more passes, just "More fighters", which could be as little as 2 or three or as high as 5 and above and still be correct. Lots of assumptions are being made.
 
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I wouldn't worry about it, mainly because TBH I think people are really overhyping how much post-pass content we're gonna get.

They never even said we'd be getting more passes, just "More fighters", which could be as little as 2 or three or as high as 5 and above and still be correct. Lots of assumptions are being made.
It's definitely a thing we'll have to live in the moment with. When even Sakurai doesn't know the future of this series, it's hard to predict what will come next for us.
 

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Tbf I don’t even know if the fighters after FP5 will even follow a Pass type model or not. If DBFZ and most other fighting games are anything to go by though, they just might.
 

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It's definitely a thing we'll have to live in the moment with. When even Sakurai doesn't know the future of this series, it's hard to predict what will come next for us.
It's just hard for me to imagine Nintendo hardcore going into paid DLC seasons like other fighting games when they've historically been very conservative with DLC. Only other game that got this much support was Spatoon 2, and one instance isn't exactly a pattern, especially when Mario Kart 8 of all things only had two packs on Wii U and then nothing on Switch.
 
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