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Hey, Warcraft! I respect that. I’ve heard no one suggest anything from Warcraft. And from the Orc race has to be the perfect fit because they’ve always given a bit more of protagonism to them.
Objectively speaking, I think the only barrier to Warcraft would be if Blizzard and Nintendo, should they work together for Smash at all, wanted an Overwatch rep like Tracer instead.
The one more thing is probably stage builder...but it would be funny if the Japanese rumor about DQ Hero being an extra non-pass character was true.
Well, I believe that this confirms that Fighter #2 and Fighter #3 will both be revealed at the same time, probably at E3.
Yeah I would imagine they would probably want to spread each character out a bit so there isn't too much of a release gap between fighter 3 and and the other two. Especially since this pass will be dragged out until February 2020
We shouldn't get ahead of ourselves. We could wind up only getting Erdrick as a reveal, or we could get Erdrick and a character that nobody asked for/expected/likes, or the second character could have some aspect about them or the associated Mii costumes/Spirits that upsets a lot of people. (for example, here's Steve? from Minecraft, along with poorly-fitting Mii costumes for Banjo/Kazooie and Master Chief! That's what everyone wanted, right?)Definitely banking on two character reveals at E3.
Banjo would be the best case scenario for the majority of the smash fanbase but Steve would be much more grand and crazy.
Either way, E3's gonna be a good time to be a smasher
If Joker is anything to go by, the spirits/costumes we would get would be MC related. There's still the issue that yes we could get other costumes from MS if we even get a MS rep in the first place.
I honestly would only find it an issue if Master Chief and Banjo & Kazooie were alternate costumes for Steve(as mainly Steve's costumes should be actually Minecraft-related to begin with, and they would look better as Mii costumes anyway as it can fit their character designs and shapes way better). Mii costumes are excellent spots for those who can't be playable, especially if an AT isn't an option. They're great calls to fans.
I doubt many fans will agree with you.
Steve is probably the most iconic VG character to not be included in Smash (besides maybe Master Chief and Lara Croft), so it isn't that unlikely he'd get picked over other Microsoft reps. Personally, I actually wouldn't mind if this was what ended up happening. Having Chief deconfirmed would be a bit of a bummer though, but I was never expecting him to come to Smash in the first place. Banjo could make a good Mii Brawler costume, and Chief would make a great Mii Gunner costume, even though I'd rather he be playable.
That doesn't matter. Because that's not how it works. People can be petty about it all they want, but they are 100% there specifically to appeal to the fanbases of that character, not to actually cheapify the character(or whatever way you want to put it).
Of course the intent is to give fans of certain characters a nod, and I'd argue that it's successful in many cases.
It's been successful in every case, honestly. Almost all the time there will only be a small bit of people refusing to buy the costume, but enough buy it for it to be successful as is. There's been no shortage of mass DLC sales because people want content and nods to their characters, including obscure ones. For a company, they want their product to sell. Refusing to buy something like a Mii costume only shows that you don't want their content in the end. People can argue all day that it's "if it isn't this content, it's not worth it", and that's fair. But there's a caveat; in order for a company to gauge interest of their product alone, they need some way to get the product known. For obscure characters, a Mii costume gets people heavily interested. Good sales means that they can tell they have a reasonable chance of selling that product. For instance, the Isaac Mii costume is the best way to help gauge whether people really want another Golden Sun or not at this point. There's some fan outliers, but keep in mind many companies don't pay attention to these kind of polls as is, or even petitions. Now, companies do look at actual reviews(that is, when it comes to actually improving their games). Especially since Mii costumes, unlike some content, are actually quality content meant to help you enact the fight you wanted. Is it perfect? No. Really, worst is sometimes the costumes look a little strange due to proportions, but now they're all one specific shape due to them cutting the Mii size differences(which is a good thing, as it helps keep them balanced and more applicable for tourneys as is. Since that was the biggest problem with their balance. Now it's just a matter of custom issues, and that's not that hard to test as is).
Very true, and to top that off, yes, the SNES Classic with SMRPG included did come out after Smash 4's DLC. It released in 2017; Sm4sh's DLC cycle ended in late 2015.
Exactly. Mii costumes are very important in gauging character interest for companies. Albeit, it could be a coincidence of why all 3rd party costumes are DLC in both games. It depends the character, of course.
I don't claim anything to the contrary to what you just said. The only thing I say is that if the sole purpose of a Mii Costume is to please a fanbase and the fanbase doesn't like it, you failed.
Just saying that we haven't seen a case where the entire fanbase is full of hatred over a Mii costume. And never will either. Some, sure. Everybody has their pet peeves. It's an unhealthy thing to treat it as a slap in the face, but there's no reason for them to buy content that isn't exactly what they want(or close enough for them). Anybody acting like them refusing to buy stuff is some kind of majorly bad thing isn't being fair. Nothing's that simple.
Eh, I'd argue that if a considerable part of the fanbase hates it it's still a failure. I don't think there will ever be a case where 'everyone' hates something, but it's usually easy to tell where the majority lies.
That, and whose online icons are being used a lot (in terms of characters not in the roster) should certainly be monitored. I know I've seen droves of Geno icons, for instance, and so have others. I'm really biased to be mentioning him, yeah, but... it looks like people are trying to speak for their passions with their icons.
That's a pretty poor example, as no Mii costume ever got that far. Never mind even the creator of Sonic, Yuji Naka, sees an issue with the complaints themselves, that they're looking at in an unreasonable way. The whole point of Sonic is he's always in motion. Screencaps exaggerate the overall issue, because he shouldn't be still at all. There's some issues, sure, but the fact he even sees people overreacting says a lot moreso of people not trying to be reasonable instead. Never mind people making really dumb arguments about it. Blue arms? Seriously? Who cares. It's irrelevant. The teeth are a legitimate issue as they're super creepy and just don't fit the character(he more has fangs in canon, and even they're odd, but they'd make more sense). The Nike shoes in itself don't matter, and that's one of the most lolworthy complaints I ever seen. Now, one legitimate point brought up is that him having shoelaces while going at sonic speeds is dangerous(as he can trip easily) is an actual proper point. And then there's the lack of gloves, another good point. The issue is more concentrate on stuff like the blue arms and "brand usage" than actual realistic points that matter when it comes to character design, as well as understanding the point of why he looks like he does(he's supposed to be always in motion, after all).
With a fandom as big and active as Smash, you're going to get a considerable part of fanbase hating a lot of things.
This. Pretty much my stance.
While I don't know if the entire fanbase hated this:
I only remember is mostly going well because it means Nintendo cared about a currently irrelevant character. It didn't have a lot of hate overall ratio-wise. Most of what you see is just vocal minority, but it's still the minority. Or if you will, only a small percentage was mad, but that was mostly hardcore gamers, which isn't the actual majority of Smash fans that buy the game. The casual Smash fanbase has always made up the majority. This is why characters like Isabelle, who doesn't have as much popularity with hardcore Smash fans, still went over very well. A lot of people among the hardcore fanbase don't care if the character is some massive icon either. They just want their specific character in. But keep in mind it's a rather different subset of fans, as they're the ones who are heavily going into speculation, theories, trying to record all kinds of data, write articles, etc. They are a different type of consumer. Basically, if the casual fanbase, the majority, doesn't like it, then it's not doing well enough for Smash itself. Mii costumes simply never had that issue. People were just giddy they could play as their character in some way, as it's a direct nod to the character, not someone just slapping on a "kind of fits" like using the Ninja Headband Mii Hat to create Naruto.While I don't know if the entire fanbase hated this:
I can't recall if anybody viewed it positively beyond "hey, at least they're acknowledging that K. Rool exists".
Nobody actually remotely said this in any way, so your point rings hollow. My suggestion is to actually read the point people are making instead of creating a useless strawman of the argument. Cause that's completely wrong and wasn't once brought up as a legitimate point. Cause it definitely isn't a good point. There is absolutely no reason a fan should be pleased if it what they exactly wanted. That doesn't mean they're being fair about the situation either. Some act entitled at times. Simply accepting and understanding the situation is nowhere near the same thing as liking it. Which is the actual argument being made(never mind in reality, most fans are pleased with Mii costumes with an extremely smaller number of percentage being annoyed at their character being only a costume).
I think the Thanos comparison works better then if you are focusing more on the understanding portion than the liking portion
No, it really doesn't. Fact of the matter is, people aren't actually talking about liking the decision as a "good thing". Nobody is making that argument.
I 10000000000% disagree, I have no idea how you can't see how much issed potential that would make.
