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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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Honestly, it seems like Kosmos legitimately wins at this point.
Based of my catch-up and Papa Geno's latest video, if leaks works on a representational vote then KOS-MOS is looking like the final DLC character.
I'd argue it's way too damn soon to assume anything.


We keep saying "X seems like it'll be it", and then in less than 24 hours, a leaker says something and throws everything into chaos.


At this point the only way I'm 100% believing in her is if Sabiben the horror speaks her name.
 

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Too early to assume anything.


Remember when Phoenix was the obvious frontrunner?

Then Kratos?

Then Phoenix again?

Now Kos-Mos?


All this **** happened in less then 48-72 hours.


This is way too tumultuous of a time to say anything's 'looking likely' until these assholes stake their credibility on a single name, and even then that's not a guarantee.
 
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Too early to assume anything.


Remember when Phoenix was the obvious frontrunner?

Then Kratos?

Then Phoenix again?

Now Kos-Mos?


All this **** happened in less then 48-72 hours.


This is way too tumultuous of a time to say anything's 'looking likely' until these assholes stake their credibility on a single name, and even then that's not a guarantee.
And we're only like, 3 days left.

Damn, time flies fast.
 

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dudes really going all-in after a toss n' turn back-and-forth that can't even be proven right and now you all decide that it's kos-mos

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mm, smells like selective bias if you ask me
 

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I'd argue it's way too damn soon to assume anything.


We keep saying "X seems like it'll be it", and then in less than 24 hours, a leaker says something and throws everything into chaos.


At this point the only way I'm 100% believing in her is if Sabiben the horror speaks her name.
That’s because people simply called too many victories too early. Kosmos legitimately has everything. She has Sakurai’s xenoblade bias, the Rex cut, Namco’s usage bias, no Lloyd, Nintendo’s dlc satisfaction for xenoblade customers, constant weird leaks about her (even one from Vergeben), Lloyd’s and Heihaichi’s copyrights (which are likely for mii costumes), the formal final slot, Namco’s heavy involvement/praise on Ultimate, no Namco mii costumes, Jon predicting Kosmos at TGA after bing pissed off, and a pretty strong, weirdly specific, connection with daisy in the dlc pic and the +1 pacman from the ultimate anniversary images, if you don’t remember, Sakurai refers to Pac-Man as “Namco’s character” in the Terry video. Seriously, the list of reasons is goddamn ridiculous.
 
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dudes really going all-in after a toss n' turn back-and-forth that can't even be proven right and now you all decide that it's kos-mos

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mm, smells like selective bias if you ask me
It's because we're all tired of this twist and turn bull**** that has transpired for so many WEEKS now.
 

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That’s because people simply called too many victories too early. Kosmos legitimately has everything. She has Sakurai’s xenoblade bias, the Rex cut, Namco’s usage bias, no Lloyd, Nintendo’s dlc satisfaction for xenoblade customers, constant weird leaks about her (even one from Vergeben), Lloyd’s and Heihaichi’s copyrights (which are likely for mii costumes), the formal final slot, Namco’s heavy involvement/praise on Ultimate, no Namco mii costumes, and a pretty strong, weirdly specific, connection with daisy in the dlc pic and the +1 pacman from the ultimate anniversary images, if you don’t remember, Sakurai refers to Pac-Man as “Namco’s character” in the Terry video. Seriously, it’s the list is goddamn ridiculous.
Let's break this down:

She has Sakurai’s xenoblade bias: This isn't evidence

the Rex cut: ok

Namco’s usage bias: Could have been worded a lot better but sure

no Lloyd: Assuming Sabi actually is legit

Nintendo’s dlc satisfaction for xenoblade customers: Not evidence

constant weird leaks about her (even one from Vergeben): Not evidence, seriously, where's Skull Kid if "Being on a lot of leaks" means anything

Lloyd’s and Heihaichi’s copyrights (which are likely for mii costumes): Plausible

the formal final slot: The **** does this mean

Namco’s heavy involvement/praise on Ultimate: Yeah, they were heavily involved in 4 too, only got 1 character, even Sakurai called their lack of characters out

no Namco mii costumes: Sure, but this works both ways. Capcom's came with Banjo, a Microsoft character

and a pretty strong, weirdly specific, connection with daisy in the dlc pic and the +1 pacman from the ultimate anniversary images: "She's a woman, thus all women must be the same."


Most of this **** is circumstantial at best, and your opinion at worst.
 

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It's because we're all tired of this twist and turn bull**** that has transpired for so many WEEKS now.
And you choose to stop at KOS-MOS specifically for what reason?

Just join the "who cares we don't know" club.
 

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Let's break this down:

She has Sakurai’s xenoblade bias: This isn't evidence

the Rex cut: ok

Namco’s usage bias: Could have been worded a lot better but sure

no Lloyd: Assuming Sabi actually is legit

Nintendo’s dlc satisfaction for xenoblade customers: Not evidence

constant weird leaks about her (even one from Vergeben): Not evidence, seriously, where's Skull Kid if "Being on a lot of leaks" means anything

Lloyd’s and Heihaichi’s copyrights (which are likely for mii costumes): Plausible

the formal final slot: The **** does this mean

Namco’s heavy involvement/praise on Ultimate: Yeah, they were heavily involved in 4 too, only got 1 character, even Sakurai called their lack of characters out

no Namco mii costumes: Sure, but this works both ways. Capcom's came with Banjo, a Microsoft character

and a pretty strong, weirdly specific, connection with daisy in the dlc pic and the +1 pacman from the ultimate anniversary images: "She's a woman, thus all women must be the same."


Most of this **** is circumstantial at best, and your opinion at worst.
The Rex cut is xenoblade bias. Skull kid is ****ed beyond belief and only is connected to absolute trash. The fighter’s pass was originally all of the dlc and Sakurai said he was surprised by Nintendo’s interest in creating more fighters. The Rex costume is literally only available in the pass, so Xenoblade fans are taken in consideration.
 
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The Rex cut is xenoblade bias. Skull kid is ****ed beyond belief. The fighter’s pass was originally all of the dlc and Sakurai said he was surprised by Nintendo’s interest in creating more fighters.
None of what you just said strengthened your points more.
 

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And you choose to stop at KOS-MOS specifically for what reason?

Just join the "who cares we don't know" club.
I'm on the "it's only three days we need as much info even 4chan leaks ffs" club.
 

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That’s because people simply called too many victories too early. Kosmos legitimately has everything. She has Sakurai’s xenoblade bias, the Rex cut, Namco’s usage bias, no Lloyd, Nintendo’s dlc satisfaction for xenoblade customers, constant weird leaks about her (even one from Vergeben), Lloyd’s and Heihaichi’s copyrights (which are likely for mii costumes), the formal final slot, Namco’s heavy involvement/praise on Ultimate, no Namco mii costumes, Jon predicting Kosmos at TGA after bing pissed off, and a pretty strong, weirdly specific, connection with daisy in the dlc pic and the +1 pacman from the ultimate anniversary images, if you don’t remember, Sakurai refers to Pac-Man as “Namco’s character” in the Terry video. Seriously, the list of reasons is goddamn ridiculous.
People made lists like this for Doom Slayer and Geno like two, three weeks ago.
 

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and two more until the new Kingdom Hearts 3 Re:Birth trailer plays at the State of Play and kills the VGA leak.
 

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People made lists like this for Doom Slayer and Geno like two, three weeks ago.
And do any of them have a cheap costume that’s stupidly unaccessible without a 25$ pass? Any relevant connections to Namco or Sakurai besides getting scrapped in a old ass game? Geno has a spirit, he’s dead upon arrival. Sakurai still doesn’t bother that much with western developers (which is how the Banjo thing is so weird in comparison to other fighters). The **** with Kosmos is more recent and relevant to this game.
 
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And do any of them have a cheap costume that’s stupidly unaccessible without a 25$ pass? Any relevant connections to Namco or Sakurai besides getting scrapped in a old ass game? Geno has a spirit, he’s dead upon arrival. Sakurai still doesn’t bother that much with western developers (which is how the Banjo thing is so weird in comparison to other fighters). The **** with Kosmos in more recent and relevant to this game.
And it's still all just random 4chan leaks.


Until you can get Vergeben or Sabi to stake their rep on it, it means just as much as when everyone was assuming Kratos or Phoenix Wright.


I wouldn't even mind KOS MOS but this really is putting the Ass in Assume.
 

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..fine.

So anyway, no news. Nothing particularly of interest atm...
No news since the earlier posts from Vergeben, and the constant stream of claims that have permeated the last like... month?

Just chill out Lesley. This has been one of the noisiest periods to date for an interim with no actual reveals. Your expectations are wildly unrealistic for how frequently updates will occur.

Literally go do something else and the time will pass. Posting every minute helps nothing.
 
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Too early to assume anything.


Remember when Phoenix was the obvious frontrunner?

Then Kratos?

Then Phoenix again?

Now Kos-Mos?


All this **** happened in less then 48-72 hours.


This is way too tumultuous of a time to say anything's 'looking likely' until these assholes stake their credibility on a single name, and even then that's not a guarantee.
Kratos was the frontrunner?
I thought I was just a birdbrain that saw the stars aligning.
 

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besides, these were chosen by Nintendo. They gain nothing from promoting a dead JRPG franchise. If they're gonna add another Xeno character it's gonna be Xenoblade.
 

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Kratos was the frontrunner?
I thought I was just a birdbrain that saw the stars aligning.
Literally everyone was saying "Aw hell, Sony's literally all that's left aside from Saber or insert minor or odd company here" after Verg's MEGA purge.

It wasn't til a few hours later when Verg "Corrected" himself that normalcy returned.
 

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Now is a good time to join Team Zinith Zinith my dudes.

All what you have to do is say the magic words:
All leaks are bull**** until they are correct
 

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Banjo's a long requested former first-party character. KOS-MOS isn't.
Nuh uh. You don't get to pick and choose.

Banjo's from a series that's literally dead in the water, that was your one stipulation. Microsoft gave Nintendo and IP that's basically worthless to them when they have **** like Halo or Minecraft.
 
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