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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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Night Gale

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It's hard to keep up with this s***. Is Capcom out of the running for the fifth spot? If so


You forgot to mention that damn near everyone who got the first game got platinum trophies because it isn't discouraging. I am not a completionist or an achievement hunter but I did it because that s*** was reasonably obtainable and honestly worthwhile. I did not plat the second game because although the timed challenges are enjoyable for the most part, every side quest except for the stunt movie ones and 100 man battle at the end were terrible. I couldn't complete them all. I swear, the game goes out of its way to make you hate dogs.

Fast travel is available but there's no point using it more often than not. I cannot think of any other game where the preferred method of travel is taking the long way. Every goddamn time.



You also forgot to point out that the camera and controls can be problematic. The Ps4 port addressed most of my criticism but not all of it. The action is unconventional; although you can fight regularly with grounded kicks and punches, it is more effective to float in the air and drop kick s***, or search for nearby objects to throw at enemies (Raven does not have to search for throwable objects, but I will address her superiority in a moment). However, this is all meaningless if your ass hasn't figured out how to maneuver the f***ing camera. It's hectic and feels clumsy and you can never button mash. You have to time your attacks and there's too many goddamn ways to move around, and during all of that, you also have to be aware of the camera. It's complicated and overwhelming at first. With that being said, when it clicks, it is worth the hassle. Holy s***.

Kat is uncoordinated af by nature, so it's rather fitting that the fighting can be janky as all hell. The second game finally corrects this in the form of Raven, button mashing and all, but she is only usable in very small sections of it, including a dungeon-style challenge mode, and a free dlc segment. You can team up with her for a mission or two and those five minutes are some of the most action-packed in the entire series. I beat both games once. The introductory portions of the game aren't worth revisiting a second time imo, so I chapter select instead starting that s*** all over again. However, due to the level-up system, beating the game a second time without upgrading Kat's abilities could make for an interesting challenge.

I spent a lot of time chucking npcs into the abyss because the game lets you be a total A-hole without consequence.


I rate both of them a 7.5/10. I've played better but they cost less than a Ps2 game right now so why not? The concept is highly orginal and it is entertaining. I like its setting and characters. The story definitely has its moments.

Thanks for coming to my Gale talk.
 
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ThatOneAnon

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I like how we've officially hit the point where leakers inside the Smash speculation community are becoming more known to people outside that community and the people outside that community are like "I don't believe you at all"
 

ProfPeanut

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And just like that, Capcom is gone. (For now.)

At this point I'm betting it's either Arle, Reimu, Kratos, Master Chief, Gordon Freeman, or Thrall. Kind of in that order.
 

Ovaltine

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And just like that, Capcom is gone. (For now.)

At this point I'm betting it's either Arle, Reimu, Kratos, Master Chief, Gordon Freeman, or Thrall. Kind of in that order.
All of them would be cool, but I have to admit... Arle would be especially hype for me. I love Puyo Puyo and it needs more love in the west.

Too bad none of them are the next character, for I now know who fighter 5 is.

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Cutie Gwen

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All of them would be cool, but I have to admit... Arle would be especially hype for me. I love Puyo Puyo and it needs more love in the west.

Too bad none of them are the next character, for I now know who fighter 5 is.

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Smh 2 Rare reps in the FP yet no Battletoads? **** that
 

Cutie Gwen

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Hey don't diss my new main SMRPG cartridge like that

They even have an easter egg when it KOs

... Care for a Stop n' Swop rainbow egg in these trying times?
How moldy must that be?
yodasumi looking to da left

who is she seeing there??

who will she
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Wait don't most Smash renders look to the left? Especially the DLC?


OH GOD OH **** I FIGURED IT OUT
 

Sabrewulf238

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Something I've started wondering with the crossover between Daemon X Machina and The Witcher. Are we underestimating Geralt?

Though that's kind of a grey area isn't it? Geralt originated in a book series even though he's more well known for his video game appearances.
 

Wunderwaft

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Something I've started wondering with the crossover between Daemon X Machina and The Witcher. Are we underestimating Geralt?

Though that's kind of a grey area isn't it? Geralt originated in a book series even though he's more well known for his video game appearances.
I've been saying it for a while but Geralt is the type of character who you can make the argument that his video game iteration and his book iteration are separate and different enough to bypass the no non-videogame characters rule.
 

TwiceEXE

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If Geralt can get in because he appeared in a game then Ghandi can get in because of Civ.

And Ghandi only goes for Domination victories.
 

Jassassino

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Late to the discussion but I don't think the Mii costumes mean anything at all and can be considered nice bonuses representing either the genre or franchise. Terry bringing along a Virtua Fighter Mii outfit doesn't really have any correspondence aside from genre, similarly Joker bringing along P4 and 3 costumes neither confirmed or deconfirmed future fighters/leak potential. Just a fun little bonus.
 

Jassassino

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If Geralt can get in because he appeared in a game then Ghandi can get in because of Civ.

And Ghandi only goes for Domination victories.
Ghandi's final smash launches nukes on every single stage on every single match occuring online on Smash at the time.
 

Smashoperatingbuddy123

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All of them would be cool, but I have to admit... Arle would be especially hype for me. I love Puyo Puyo and it needs more love in the west.

Too bad none of them are the next character, for I now know who fighter 5 is.

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So the answer is rare

And you messed up slightly

It’s not two rare reps it’s 3

King K. Rool is still techniqully considered rare he’s just got owned by nintendo

So

https://www.giantbomb.com/rare-ltd/3010-174/characters/

Which one? (Besides who’s already in)
 
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ZoroCarlos

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Incineroar was controversial? Sheeeeit. He's the closest thing to Juan from Guacamelee and easily my favorite Pokemon in the game since Pichu. There's really no way to please this crowd. Goddamn.
Well, Incineroar's controversy comes from the fact that he debunked the Grinch Leak, which a good part of the fanbase was convinced was real, and that Decidueye was the prefered speculated Gen 7 Pokemon for OCD reasons because Greninja (Phase 3 water starter) and Charizard (Phase 3 fire starter) were already in, although Pokemon Trainer coming back kind of throws that out the window so w/e

When he was released people were salty, but some grew to love him, he's one of the characters with the most personality in the game and that's what adds to the fun of playing him.
 
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SKX31

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By the way, have we talked about this hamazing event today?

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One comment must be the ultimate leaker, because (s)he pointed out the character we all missed: FP5 is Whispy Woods.

:4pacman:

I've been saying it for a while but Geralt is the type of character who you can make the argument that his video game iteration and his book iteration are separate and different enough to bypass the no non-videogame characters rule.
It can be a tricky argument to be sure, but I'm inclined to agree that book Geralt and CDPR's Geralt are different enough characters. Adapting something into another medium will always introduce significant differences even if one is trying to be really faithful to the source material; fitting another medium entirely (Tom Bombadil would not work in the LotR films at all, I'd argue - so cutting him's acceptable), or errors / mistakes.*

*(Nuclear Gandhi is arguably the most famous example here - it's due to an underflow error. Gandhi's the lowest agression score - just +1 out of 10 - of all AI leaders in Civ I, and learning the tech Democracy lowers the agression rating by 2. However, the devs didn't account for this, so -1 turns the pacifist Gandhi into a 255 warmonger of nukes. Needless to say, Nuclear Gandhi's hilarious.)
 

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When he was released people were salty, but some grew to love him, he's one of the characters with the most personality in the game and that's what adds to the fun of playing him.
Wasn't into the idea at all when it got leaked, but after seeing his personality, I came to love him. He's one of the better additions in Ultimate TBH. :drshrug:
 

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By the way, have we talked about this hamazing event today?

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One comment must be the ultimate leaker, because (s)he pointed out the character we all missed: FP5 is Whispy Woods.

:4pacman:
So Sakurai/Sora is posting Kirby Cafe pictures? It probably means nothing, but if it's an actual hint, I hope FP5 is Adeleine for real!

Adeleine and Taranza are the only possible Kirby characters without a spirit in the game, if it's someone else, it will kill the spirit theory.

Well, I wouldn't complain too much if they did Taranza instead, I kinda like him too, and a Dreamstalk stage would be awesome.

But it can be a Kirby spirit event too.
 

Guynamednelson

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Wasn't into the idea at all when it got leaked, but after seeing his personality, I came to love him. He's one of the better additions in Ultimate TBH. :drshrug:
I'm just not that into extremely human Pokemon, and Incineroar is EXTREMELY human, meaning not just in its appearance but its animations, so much so that if an echo pass is a thing and comes with an Incineroar echo I wouldn't be surprised if it's Mike Haggar.

It doesn't help that the Pokemon I felt like were the actual mascots of Alola weren't humanoid.
 
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Hadokeyblade

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By the way, have we talked about this hamazing event today?

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One comment must be the ultimate leaker, because (s)he pointed out the character we all missed: FP5 is Whispy Woods.

:4pacman:



It can be a tricky argument to be sure, but I'm inclined to agree that book Geralt and CDPR's Geralt are different enough characters. Adapting something into another medium will always introduce significant differences even if one is trying to be really faithful to the source material; fitting another medium entirely (Tom Bombadil would not work in the LotR films at all, I'd argue - so cutting him's acceptable), or errors / mistakes.*

*(Nuclear Gandhi is arguably the most famous example here - it's due to an underflow error. Gandhi's the lowest agression score - just +1 out of 10 - of all AI leaders in Civ I, and learning the tech Democracy lowers the agression rating by 2. However, the devs didn't account for this, so -1 turns the pacifist Gandhi into a 255 warmonger of nukes. Needless to say, Nuclear Gandhi's hilarious.)
I want that Kirby plush so badly.
 
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All of them would be cool, but I have to admit... Arle would be especially hype for me. I love Puyo Puyo and it needs more love in the west.

Too bad none of them are the next character, for I now know who fighter 5 is.

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We got him, boys

 

KatKit

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I've backed Geralt in the past and still do. I know that he originated from a book, but I'm also aware that Andrzej Sapkowski considers the video game version of the series and character "its own thing". He didn't make it - it's a different form of art in his opinion. Moreover, due to its multiverse travelling capabilities, it seems like a reasonable exception. They can literally handwave the books as a Geralt cameo in our world or something.

I'm bringing this up again because he's crossing over in everything nowadays. Seriously... He's in Daemon X Machina now?!?! That makes absolutely no sense, ahaha.

I'm not a Witcher fan, but I like his cameos and Witcher 3 is critically acclaimed. They also went out of their way to port Witcher 3 on the Switch. His stage and song was dope in Soul Calibur 6 and his MonHun quest was fun. He's modern and popular. He hasn't been deconfirmed yet either, IIRC.
 
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