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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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This is starting to feel like an adventure film with all of these twists and quests for treasure (fighter 5’s identity)

So why not put music?

 

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I think that Porky is much less likely than people think he is.
Riley you know damn well I'm the only one in this thread who actively thinks it's Porky, I threw him in there for me exclusively.

And also, you're completely dismissing indies and Western characters.
Give me names instead of saying I did then. :nifty:
 

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Okay, okay, here's the total list so far, excluding companies already represented:

Nintendo
- Byleth
- Porky
- Akira Howard

Konami
- Pyramid Head
- Frogger
- Bill Rizer
- Gradius

ArcSys
- Sol Badguy
- Ragna the Bloodedge
- Noel Vermillion

Sony
- Parappa the Rapper
- Nathan Drake
- Kratos
- Sackboy
- Literally anyone exclusive to Sony, easily the most comprehensive list (Ratchet, Jak, Sir Daniel, etc.)

is there anyone major that we're missing here
Aloy from horizon zero dawn, bloodborne character and thats all i can think off now.
 

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Aloy from horizon zero dawn, bloodborne character and thats all i can think off now.
Isn't From Software related to Namco, who supposedly got sent to the Shadow Realm.
 

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Smash Bros. is a pretty cool video game and I would like Phoenix Wright to be in it.

Who are y'all hoping to see at TGA, assuming a reveal happens?
Verge hasn't deconfirmed Capcom yet, despite being asked about it frequently.

Almost like he CAN'T deconfirm Capcom.

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Yall jinxed it, the curse is spreading!
This place is way less vitriolic and headache-inducing than the Geno thread is right now

Can I just stay here? I'm nice, I like chicken nuggets, I'm a specialist in one specific origami airplane, and I can make spaghetti. :drflip: (Also I'm excited for literally anyone we could possibly get at this point. The floodgates have opened!)
Sure make yourself at home! We got cookies!
(Repost from the Social Thread because I’m being really serious with this right now)
I literally can’t sleep knowing what has happened on the site and how it is to some extent my fault. I basically had to sneak my way through into my iPad without having my mother noticing me because I really can’t stand what I have done right now. If she finds out I am dead.

And right now, I am tempted to ask a huge question. One I never wanted to ask but sadly feel should be told after what I just did:

Do most of you want me to delete my Smashboards account for good?

Because I feel I should after the stuff I did at the Geno thread.
Please don’t dude, your posts are great and your cool.
 

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I don't like having hope again. I don't know if my heart can handle Phoenix being deconfirmed twice.
 

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This whole back and forth, "will he make it or won't he" sequence of Phoenix Wright being seemingly leaked, then the leak confirmed fake, then seemingly deconfirmed, then some doubt thrown into that deconfirmation... it's like an actual case in the Phoenix Wright games. It's exhaustive, yet thrilling in a way, and I can almost hear the famous Pursuit theme playing in my head now.

Anything could happen between now and the VGAs, but for now, I'm gonna hold out hope for Wright clawing his way to victory and the Fighter 5 spot.
 

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Wouldn't that bring Dark Souls or Sekiro into the running then?
Dark Souls is owned by Namco that's for sure
Sekiro was published by Activision but I think they co-own the IP with FromSoft but I'm not really sure about that
 
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Wouldn't that bring Dark Souls or Sekiro into the running then?
The Dark Souls IP is at least partially owned by Bamco IIRC so it's still dead. Sekiro and Bloodborne have a chance since they're published by Activision and Sony respectively but they have as much of a chance as I have of winning the lottery
And I never buy scratch tickets
 

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I still stand by what Nazy said here. Since I saw what happened by my own eyes... Sorta rude from Sabi tbh lmao, even if he's been busy with other stuff
Well, at worst we should know a 100% by later tonight or early tomorrow if Capcom is truly out of the pass.

I'm going to assume they are, as the only frontrunner they had still running was Phoenix Wright (unless you count Ammy; both Dante and RE were struck down).

I fully expect to wake up tomorrow with Sora disconfirmed.
 

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This whole back and forth, "will he make it or won't he" sequence of Phoenix Wright being seemingly leaked, then the leak confirmed fake, then seemingly deconfirmed, then some doubt thrown into that deconfirmation... it's like an actual case in the Phoenix Wright games. It's exhaustive, yet thrilling in a way, and I can almost hear the famous Pursuit theme playing in my head now.

Anything could happen between now and the VGAs, but for now, I'm gonna hold out hope for Wright clawing his way to victory and the Fighter 5 spot.
It's almost like the leakers are hyping up the "Ultimate turnabout"
 

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That NoA source of Nazyrus isn't the same of Sabi's? I mean, Nazyrus is or at least he was in Sabi's circle, I guess that source is the same Sabi has talked about.
 

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PapaGenos says Naz's source is not the same as Sabi and Verge's.

Make of that what you will.
 

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So how are y'all tonight? I think I'm at about stage 3 of the 5 stages of grief thanks for asking.
 

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No news on a Chinese release of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate or Splatoon 2?

also interesting Capcom isn’t a Tencent AAA partner...
Nope, no news on those fronts. I'm not sure why those two were not mentioned.

As far as Capcom is concerned, the most I've seen between them and Tencent is a Street Fighter mobile game. Likely there A) are no plans for Switch ports or B) things haven't been finalized.

Capcom is out and so the only remaining big Japanese companies left are Konami (who have no options, considering that Bomberman is an AT) and Arc System Works (who would be redundant with Terry).
Wouldn't count out Koei if they're not disconfirmed as a company. They also have an AT and no playable characters as of yet.

verge didn't deconfirm my uncle so he's still in the running
Everyone when their uncles are still alive, but their fathers are not:



And finally, a note on the pre-orders over in China: there are two official webshops selling Chinese Switch pre-orders. One of them, JD.com (really big site in China) has a live tracker, and can thus be more reliably tracked - and it claims a number of 65K+ within the first day. Tencent's official store, TMall (even bigger than JD), apparently also has a lot of preorder bundles sold out. Note that A) Tmall offers all kinds of bundles, including Switch + NSMBU + Odyssey + Mario Kart 8 for $425, and B) the Switch got 600K within the first month in Japan.
 
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PapaGenos says Naz's source is not the same as Sabi and Verge's.

Make of that what you will.
this is just going to confused the hell out of people. I really hope Sabi can just speak up and clarify this mess.
 

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Hollow Knight is 2 and a half years old? I stand corrected. That's news to me. Either time went by super fast that I FORGOT it came out in 2017, or I simply wasn't paying attention, teehee.
I feel like comparing HK and Persona is still kinda weird though, like yeah P5 is a young game, but Persona as a whole has always had a pretty decent sized following since 3. The only reason P5 is getting repped and not P3/4 is simply because of advertisement; it's the most recent game. I'm sure that they'd put in Yu or Minato if P5 was still being worked on. Plus, Persona as a whole is related to the Shin Megami Tensei franchise, which is really old. Atlus and Ninty go waaay back... it was one of the very few companies to have a game on the Virtual Boy even. Persona has stood the test of time, I feel.

It's true that the Knight has more international appeal than Reimu, but the Knight needs more longevity. He's just simply too young imo. I can totally see why people want him in. I want the Cuphead brothers in, like imagine Cuphead music in Smash... that'd be fantastic. But I think it's best to wait and see Team Cherry make more games and continue to do stuff that will make a massive impact, you know?

I do definitely feel like we're getting an indie at some point. They just, again need a little more star power so they won't feel nearly as out of place in a game filled with third party juggernauts. And yes. Even if Terry is pretty unknown now, he is very important to the world of fighting games and Smash would have not existed if it weren't for the KoF franchise.
I mean, you're right about Persona having a much longer history than the comparison would imply, but at the same time... I feel like this whole "not enough legacy" argument repeatedly gets brought up with indies more often than with other suggested series. Some of these indies have already made a pretty big impact during the short timespan they've been around. Why should we have to wait for Hollow Knight, or Cuphead, or Undertale, or whatever, to stop being "too young" to get in? The games are already good, and if they don't get remembered all that well in the future... the worst that can happen is that people in the future will look at them being in Ultimate with the same befuddlement that more casual audiences have towards characters like Captain Falcon and Ice Climbers. It's not like they're gonna have to carry the characters over to Smash 6 if it turns out that the games were flukes in their developers' carers.
 

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Well the NoA ambassador is pretty reliable about his information, but I guess we're going to have wait for Judge Vergeben's verdict until then.
 
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At this point I'm beginning to believe it's Phoenix solely because speculation is starting to feel like your average Ace Attorney case
Only with significantly more murder
 
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We need an obligatory thread theme in wake of this mess.

 

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Bro all of my most wanted are shot down for FP5... at this point.. I throw in the towel, sakurai won, I have absolutely no clue who FP5 is and I don’t much care since it’s not gonna be anyone I really want, I just hope I get pleasantly surprised.(I will still follow this thread tho)
 

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PapaGenos says Naz's source is not the same as Sabi and Verge's.

Make of that what you will.
It's also the one that had Banjo before Shinobi.
And Terry.
And Links Awakening 2D.
And Directs date.
And Pokemon stuff.
 

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It's also the one that had Banjo before Shinobi.
And Terry.
And Links Awakening 2D.
And Directs date.
And Pokemon stuff.
Nekoo please stop Hinata Hinata 's heart can only take so much damage from this back-and-forth.
 
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