Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[MooMew64]

Good morning everyone.

You guys spent the last few pages debating over DLC, Spirits, and 4th party reps. Also too much Wright discussion.

Typical everyday discussion if you ask me. I've got nothing new to offer at the table for the moment.

Hey now, ain't no such thing as "Too much Wright discussion".

We're just gettin' ready for lawyer time.

 

[Douglas J. Walker 94]

Fyi, I'm from the Philippines. It's 5:00 AM from here.

Oh. Terribly sorry about that. This is my first time chatting with you and your buddies on the Smashboards Newcomer page.

BTW. As far as discussion's on Geralt and how he's from a book series.

Didn't Sakurai state that Smash Ultimate will only consist of Video Game Content? Not film, book, t.v show content?

Much like the possibility adding Kos-Mos after he made that comment on how Smash Ultimate is only for good boys and girls.

Adding in Geralt after that speech at the Japanese Game Awards would make Mr. S look more like a bigger hypocite than Bill Clinton giving a high school lecture about how sexual harassment is a giant no-no and could lead you into so much trouble if your an elected official.

 

[Deleted member]

Hey now, ain't no such thing as "Too much Wright discussion".

We're just gettin' ready for lawyer time.

*facepalms over people jumping to conclusions again*

When will you guys learn honestly...

 

[GoodGrief741]

Hey now, ain't no such thing as "Too much Wright discussion".

We're just gettin' ready for lawyer time.

There is if you just want to crap on any character that you, personally, don't want.

 

[Calamitas]

I'm honestly disappointed people are saying Capcom should have 10 more newcomers. Clearly they deserve at least 15

Amaterasu, Susano, Waka, Oki, Chibiterasu, Rao. . .

Good Morning??? It's late in the afternoon (3:58 p.m). Did you not sleep well last night mam?

There are more countries on the earth than just the US.

 

[Wunderwaft]

Actually, CDPR got the rights to any videogame usage of the Witcher in perpetuity, so that's what the writer was pissed off about (his books became mainstream because of games but he wasn't seeing money from them).

So while the guy might probably *****, there's nothing that requires negotiating with him.

I'm pretty sure if Goku wasn't such a copyright nightmare then Nintendo would've put him in already with zero care for the non-videogame characters rule. Geralt doesn't have that problem so it's possible to see him, especially since Witcher is more known for it's video games than for it's books.

 

[SKX31]

All we need now is some Marvel characters and we could just make Smash into Marvel vs Capcom 4.

Hell, one could go fully broke. Either:

A) Marvel vs. Capcom vs. Nintendo

Or:

B) Project Y No. T (PXZ sequel featuring Capcom, Namco, Sega and Nintendo alongside Disney, Pixar, Lucasfilm/Lucasarts and Marvel).

Hey now, ain't no such thing as "Too much Wright discussion".

We're just gettin' ready for lawyer time.

Ah yes, my favorite time of the day. Objecting and pointing fingers dramatically at each other, etc. And then, the dramatic revelations.

 

[Deleted member]

Hey now, ain't no such thing as "Too much Wright discussion".

We're just gettin' ready for lawyer time.

All of these Phoenix conversations are starting to feel trite if you ask me.

 

[Garteam]

I'm kinda tempted to start a new thread discussing possible Nintendo vs Capcom rosters. There's so many good options for that game it's almost criminal it hasn't happened yet.

Capcom, we get it, you had a good run with Marvel. But they have a new, mouse-shaped boyfriend who seems more interested in creating movie tie-ins than well-polished games. We are the final piece of the Capgod puzzle.

Alternatively just go balls-to-the-wall and make Project x Zone 3, bringing Nintendo in formally with Konami, Square Enix, Microsoft, and SNK.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm kinda tempted to start a new thread discussing possible Nintendo vs Capcom rosters. There's so many good options for that game it's almost criminal it hasn't happened yet.

Capcom, we get it, you had a good run with Marvel. But they have a new, mouse-shaped boyfriend who seems more interested in creating movie tie-ins than well-polished games. We are the final piece of the Capgod puzzle.

Nintendo should be Capcom's new home right now. Disney is probably a mixed bag right now.

 

[Lamperouge]

*facepalms over people jumping to conclusions again*

When will you guys learn honestly...

Pot, meet kettle.

 

[GoodGrief741]

I'm pretty sure if Goku wasn't such a copyright nightmare then Nintendo would've put him in already with zero care for the non-videogame characters rule. Geralt doesn't have that problem so it's possible to see him, especially since Witcher is more known for it's video games than for it's books.

I don't think so, Sakurai seems pretty firm about the non-videogame characters rule (for one, aside from Goku he also cited Iron Man, a character who would only require licensing with a single company).

But with a character like Geralt, who is basically a de facto videogame character, I can see the exception being made. I mean, let's not forget that SMT started out as novels.

 

[Hinata]

Good morning everyone.

You guys spent the last few pages debating over DLC, Spirits, and 4th party reps. Also too much Wright discussion.

Typical everyday discussion if you ask me. I've got nothing new to offer at the table for the moment.

Aww, but I was so looking forward to hearing you complain about the lack of female fighters for the 50th time. I was sure this time would have you convince me.

 

[Deleted member]

Aww, but I was so looking forward to hearing you complain about the lack of female fighters for the 50th time. I was sure this time would have you convince me.

Let's...not delve deeper into that discussion right now, shouldn't we? I'm not in the mood for it at the moment.

 

[BlackInk]

Yeah. I'm just saying that primary and secondary colors isn't exactly true, especially since there's several characters using some shade of Gray like Wolf or Snake.

what if the source disconfirms crash and tracer because he’s trying to lead us to an orange background?

 

[MooMew64]

*facepalms over people jumping to conclusions again*

When will you guys learn honestly...

I'm not making assumptions when our future is clear.

Spoiler

gooigi time

 

[TheCJBrine]

They pick primary and secondary colors.

They’ve picked other colors, it’s more-likely whatever color they think looks good with the character or makes sense in some way. My point was just that the next character’s color doesn’t have to be orange and could even be a different shade of blue than Terry’s.

The conversations are obviously private. However, it does imply Sakurai is doing these weird exchanges for a reason, he’s testing them.

Yes, test them to see if they slip and make recording take even longer. This is a big stretch, and Sakurai never hints way ahead of a reveal, only a day or less beforehand if he hints at all.

 

[Deleted member]

The conversations are obviously private. However, it does imply Sakurai is doing these weird exchanges for a reason, he’s testing them.

This argument you brought up about this namco thing in terry’s vid is a humongous coincidence just like the dig tweet from the Xbox game pass twitter. Wow lol

 

[Garteam]

I'm pretty sure if Goku wasn't such a copyright nightmare then Nintendo would've put him in already with zero care for the non-videogame characters rule. Geralt doesn't have that problem so it's possible to see him, especially since Witcher is more known for it's video games than for it's books.

Goku's not that much of a copyright nightmare. If Namco can make Jump crossovers which utilize multiple properties with rights strung across multiple mangaka and anime studios, I think they could work things out to get Goku if they wanted to. His exclusion seems more like a deliberate decision than one of feasibility.

 

[7NATOR]

I don't think so, Sakurai seems pretty firm about the non-videogame characters rule (for one, aside from Goku he also cited Iron Man, a character who would only require licensing with a single company).

But with a character like Geralt, who is basically a de facto videogame character, I can see the exception being made. I mean, let's not forget that SMT started out as novels.

To be fair though, that character is Disney. I believe Nintendo and Disney worked together in the past though, but perhaps Disney has Certain conditions with the characters they own that Sakurai might not want to deal with. I Believe Capcom has had their trouble with Marvel when making the Marvel vs Capcom games though

in any case, it would be cool to see Non-Video game characters in Smash someday. Licensed Video games have been a big part of gaming history (for better or worse), but i don't see it happening at the moment unless it's a character Geralt

 

[Cutie Gwen]

This argument you brought up about this namco thing in terry’s vid is a humongous coincidence just like the dig tweet from the Xbox game pass twitter. Wow lol

BlackInk is convinced KOSMOS is 100% happening and nobody can convince him they may be wrong, ignore them

 

[MooMew64]

BlackInk is convinced KOSMOS is 100% happening and nobody can convince him they may be wrong, ignore them

But it's impossible for KOSMOS to be coming. We already know Gooigi is FP5.

 

[Lamperouge]

Let's...not delve deeper into that discussion right now, shouldn't we? I'm not in the mood for it at the moment.

Then stop trying to play gatekeeper with speculation.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

But it's impossible for KOSMOS to be coming. We already know Gooigi is FP5.

Wait I thought Baboom was FP5

 

[Deleted member]

in any case, it would be cool to see Non-Video game characters in Smash someday. Licensed Video games have been a big part of gaming history (for better or worse), but i don't see it happening at the moment unless it's a character Geralt

Regarding that first statement on non-video game characters, let me ask you. What is Smash about?

Because 4th parties will make Smash lose its identity.

 

[AceAttorney9000]

I'm kinda tempted to start a new thread discussing possible Nintendo vs Capcom rosters. There's so many good options for that game it's almost criminal it hasn't happened yet.

Capcom, we get it, you had a good run with Marvel. But they have a new, mouse-shaped boyfriend who seems more interested in creating movie tie-ins than well-polished games. We are the final piece of the Capgod puzzle.

Alternatively just go balls-to-the-wall and make Project x Zone 3, bringing Nintendo in formally with Konami, Square Enix, Microsoft, and SNK.

Nintendo should be Capcom's new home right now. Disney is probably a mixed bag right now.

As much as I want Marvel vs. Capcom to get its chance another day (I'm keeping my fingers crossed for MVC4, and for it to essentially redeem Infinite), I would be fine with Capcom doing crossovers with other companies in the mean time. Terry getting into Smash makes me want to see another Capcom vs. SNK game, and Nintendo vs. Capcom would be a cool possibility. Heck, why not go all out and just make a Project X Zone fighting game?

 

[MooMew64]

Wait I thought Baboom was FP5

It's both.

Baboom is Gooigi's Echo.

 

[Deleted member]

Wait I thought Baboom was FP5

Gen 8 was deconfirmed after the SwSh spirits got confirmed. Pay attention. FP 5 is now Yodasumi and Himeko as an Ice Climber duo character.

 

[Deleted member]

Then stop trying to play gatekeeper with speculation.

Am not. If I were, I would've raged out over the Phoenix Wright claims. Now I'm tryimg my best keep calm. Let's not talk about this anymore, okay.

 

[Deleted member]

stupid internet lag

 

[Lamperouge]

Gen 8 was deconfirmed after the SwSh spirits got confirmed. Pay attention. FP 5 is now Yodasumi and Himeko as an Ice Climber duo character.

...But where's Edea?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

...But where's Edea?

Dead, Gentlepanda shot her in the name of Yodasumi

 

[7NATOR]

Regarding that first statement on non-video game characters, let me ask you. What is Smash about?

Because 4th parties will make Smash lose its identity.

Smash is about Celebrating Nintendo History, or at this point Video Game History

I don't think 4th party characters would make Smash lose it's identity, well if it's the right ones

Like if say Gordon Ramsey was added, i could see your point cause he's not really associated with games all that well

But there's other characters that while they come from other forms of media, and maybe be more known for that media, they still have made some type of impact on the gaming industry. Batman, Spiderman, Goku, TMNT, E.T (for the Wrong reasons), Star Wars, and Marvel are just examples of Other forms of media making their impact on Gaming History

 

[Ivander]

Post-pass could consist of nothing but Capcom characters and I would be happy as a pig in ****.

Capcom should get ten more characters in Smash tbh

After FP5's reveal, it suddenly cuts to a new trailer. Then it all leads up to the reveal of the first Capcom character, showing them side by side with Mega Man and Ryu facing against Mario, Link and Kirby in a MvC style match-up, with 4 unknown shadowed characters behind the former 3, then revealing that the Capcom character is coming with 4 other Capcom characters with the new "Fighter's Pack" titled "Smash Bros vs Capcom Pack".

 

[Wunderwaft]

Regarding that first statement on non-video game characters, let me ask you. What is Smash about?

Because 4th parties will make Smash lose its identity.

That's literally what people said about third parties being in Smash. Smash was originally a Nintendo All-Stars crossover, then it naturally evolved into a gaming All-Stars crossover. Smash at it's core is a player friendly game that has players knocking others out of the screen, that is what Smash is ever since it's original prototype inception when it was called Dragon King. If non-gaming characters join the roster then Smash will still be Smash.

 

[Deleted member]

...But where's Edea?

She's already in Smash

 

[Lamperouge]

Dead, Gentlepanda shot her in the name of Yodasumi

Strong with the dank Yodasumi is, hmm.

 

[cothero]

Speaking of color theory, i'm prone to believe there's a very high chance that fighter #5 is from Bandai Namco. Tekken, Soulcalibur, Dark Souls, Xenosaga, the list goes on. Even Digimon has a decent chance (Pikachu and Agumon in the same game would definitely break the internet).

 

[TheCJBrine]

Regarding that first statement on non-video game characters, let me ask you. What is Smash about?

Because 4th parties will make Smash lose its identity.

Not if it’s Popeye, BFBB SpongeBob and Spider-Man with a pizza bag.

 

[Deleted member]

But there's other characters that while they come from other forms of media, and maybe be more known for that media, they still have made some type of impact on the gaming industry. Batman, Spiderman, Goku, TMNT, E.T (for the Wrong reasons), Star Wars, and Marvel are just examples of Other forms of media making their impact on Gaming History

Even so, it will lead to the philosophy that anything can get into Smash, and honestly, people will now wonder, "Smash is a celebration of everything pop culture". Nintendo is strict on making this a gaming crossover.