Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[DarthEnderX]

Geralt is the only book character that's in video games that i think should get a pass video game Geralt isn't the same as book Geralt unlike Goku who's the same from anime to manga

That's ridiculous. They're like 90% the same, you just want to make an exception because you want the character.

 

[ES. Dinah]

Why would they give away that they're receiving a second character?

funny how Sabi stops disconfirming things and Verge now that Namco is in the spotlight for discussion too.

 

[Opossum]

Why would they give away that they're receiving a second character?

If they were trying to keep another Bandai-Namco character under wraps, why would Sakurai bring up that story in the first place?

 

[BlackInk]

But that's my point. The fact that they immediately realized he was talking about Pac-Man and didn't then ask "which one of our characters," if anything, implies no additional Bandai-Namco character.

If they knew, why didn’t they say his name instead of something that’s far more suspicious?

If they were trying to keep another Bandai-Namco character under wraps, why would Sakurai bring up that story in the first place?

Same reason why he makes foreshadowing jokes about Ridley or King K. Rool in the day before their release. No one ever takes them seriously or catches up on the joke.

 

[Douglas J. Walker 94]

funny how Sabi stops disconfirming things and Verge now that Namco is in the spotlight for discussion too.

I personally hope it's either Klonoa, Dig-Dug, Or Augmon that get confirmed as the 2nd Namco and as the 5th fighter.

Since everyone for some reason has been sleeping on those three guys for quiet a while (No one would litterally expect them to be revealed as the 5th fighter, thus making those three nice suprises).

I couldn't care less about this ongoing drama. Unless another leaker truly comes out and says that Namco will not be joining the roster (Really wish we got a codename leak reveal when Terry got launched so we wouldn't have to deal with this speculation drama nonsense).

 

[Lamperouge]

If they were trying to keep another Bandai-Namco character under wraps, why would Sakurai bring up that story in the first place?

As a joke, probably.

I'd imagine the employees at Bandai Namco are pretty well trained not to let any secrets slip because of something like that.

 

[7NATOR]

That's ridiculous. They're like 90% the same, you just want to make an exception because you want the character.

On topic of Geralt, I do think an exception could be made from him. He did start from the books, but his Gaming History is most notable of the two. People might not know Geralt came from books, but they sure know about the Witcher Video game

I do think a problem is that the guy who made the books still owns him i believe, and i know him and CD Projeckt Red had a dispute not too long ago. that's the main issue

 

[Deleted member]

look personally I think colour theory is kind of dumb but if it is orange it would be a Namco character that's blue. So KOS-MOS is the only option there or Nightmare in his Azure armour

It’s gonna be phoinex. Trust me, they didn’t reference the color orange of Namcos logo for pac man

 

[NoOtherPersona]

That's ridiculous. They're like 90% the same, you just want to make an exception because you want the character.

yup

 

[Flyboy]

Why would that be silly. I'd much rather it A goddess dog who uses a celetial brush to fight as the 5th character as opposed to the 5th fighter being another uninteresting Sword fighter (No offense to the people who were hoping for a sword fighter as the 5th DLC fighter)

One sword fighter per fighter pass is more that enough (Smash Ultimate's DLC roster needs just as much fighter variety as the Base Roster).

And since Ammy is a bit more Cartoony that the other DLC choices (The Joker From Persona, Larry From Dragon Quest 11, Terry Bogart From Fatal Fury).

I think it's fair to say that Smash Ultimate needs more Cartoony platforming character to balance out the realistic looking Humans in the DLC roster.

BTW Mr G.G 741? What would your choice be for the 5th DLC fighter (I'm all ears).

imagine not wanting like ten different Capcom characters and having trouble deciding among them all. Can't relate

 

[TheCJBrine]

Falco uses blue.
Marth comes after Falco and he, too, uses blue.
Lucina uses blue as well.

Is Color Theory dead yet? I think different shades of colors can be used, my dudes.

 

[BlackInk]

As a joke, probably.

I'd imagine the employees at Bandai Namco are pretty well trained not to let any secrets slip because of something like that.

If we think about it, Sakurai is pressuring them to say something and this is why the exchange with Pacman is extremely odd.

Falco uses blue.
Marth comes after Falco and he, too, uses blue.
Lucina uses blue as well.

Is Color Theory dead yet? I think different shades of colors can be used, my dudes.

They pick primary and secondary colors.

 

[Douglas J. Walker 94]

Falco uses blue.
Marth comes after Falco and he, too, uses blue.
Lucina uses blue as well.

Is Color Theory dead yet? I think different shades of colors can be used, my dudes.

Let's just hope Color Theory get's thrown into a wood chipper when the next reveal takes place.

That theory should have died the day Terry got revealed (Along with Costume, Trailer, And Companion Theory)

 

[Deleted member]

- and of course, Nintendo themselves. Akira Howard? Byleth? Elma??? (yes I know Elma's a Spirit but just watch as she's the first Spirit promotion)

What evidence is there to suggest that Elma could potentially be among the first spirit upgrades (assuming they even happen for post-pass)? I'm still of the mindset that Xenoblade Chronicles X was simply robbed with how little content it received in Ultimate, but I'd love to hear any reasons pointing towards her inclusion in the future.

Tbh I see geno and shantae as the first spirit upgrades because of their popular by the fans and the same representation they got in the base game

 

[Lamperouge]

Post-pass could consist of nothing but Capcom characters and I would be happy as a pig in ****.

 

[Deleted member]

Post-pass could consist of nothing but Capcom characters and I would be happy as a pig in ****.

All we need now is some Marvel characters and we could just make Smash into Marvel vs Capcom 4.

 

[Wunderwaft]

Capcom should get ten more characters in Smash tbh

 

[perfectchaos83]

If we think about it, Sakurai is pressuring them to say something and this is why the exchange with Pacman is extremely odd.

They pick primary and secondary colors.

Ken is Gray. Inkling is Pink

 

[GKMLTTSB]

Geralt seems pretty clearly in the 'not-a-game-original' category to me.

The character that sits in the closest thing to a grey area to me is Aya Brea since the Parasite Eve games technically serve as a sequel to the novel, but have an unrelated cast, location, etc. They basically just go "Oh yeah, that stuff happened too, I guess" with respect to the novel's scenario, then do their own thing.

Well, and I guess like... Suikoden. Would the adaptation be loose enough that it's considered a separate entity from the novel? Not really plussed either way, granted.

Post-pass could consist of nothing but Capcom characters and I would be happy as a pig in ****.

Replace Capcom with SEGA, and that's my sentiment.

 

[Deleted member]

If we think about it, Sakurai is pressuring them to say something and this is why the exchange with Pacman is extremely odd.

I-
Are you trying so say that Sakurai was trying to pressure them into letting slip that a Namco character was coming? Because if so that might be the wildest ****in stretch of logic I've ever heard, and that's saying something for speculation

 

[BlackInk]

Tbh I see geno and shantae as the first spirit upgrades because of their popular by the fans and the same representation they got in the base game

I expect them to break rules to continue the unexpected factor.

 

[Deleted member]

Capcom should get ten more characters in Smash tbh

And let’s rename it to Nintendo vs capcom where not only they have all the capcom characters but remove all the non capcom 3rd parties on the roster

 

[Deleted member]

If we think about it, Sakurai is pressuring them to say something and this is why the exchange with Pacman is extremely odd.

You're telling me Sakurai wanted Namco to leak their DLC character? Sakurai is the same man who cancelled Smash 4's adventure mode because its story would be leaked online. He hates leaks.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Ken is Gray. Inkling is Pink

and i'm fine with that - it makes them pop out from the background more. If their BG color is the same color as an article of their clothing or fur or whatever it looks washed out and muted - look at Hero's bg for example and how he almost blends in. you don't want that, which is why I think an orange bg would be bad for Tracer or Crash (they're both confirmed to NOT be FP5 anyway so)

You're telling me Sakurai wanted Namco to leak their DLC character? Sakurai is the same man who cancelled Smash 4's adventure mode because its story would be leaked online. He hates leaks.

...smash 4 was gonna have a story mode?

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

I guess it has to do with UMvC3 taking Wright and showing the world how fun of a fighter he can be. We know he has good moveset potential and he would hilarously Object characters into the blastzone.

Layton's moveset is a wildcard. He solves puzzles, knows esgrima and so on.... doesn't sound too appealing unless you show it in action like Capcom did with Nick.

Yeah I guess Nick already has an example play style so people can just look at that, but I find it funny that people can easily imagine a move set for Phoenix who canonical isn’t a fighter (tough as a brick tho) but have a hard time imagining it for Layton, who regularly shows fighting proficiency.

 

[Lamperouge]

I-
Are you trying so say that Sakurai was trying to pressure them into letting slip that a Namco character was coming? Because if so that might be the wildest ****in stretch of logic I've ever heard, and that's saying something for speculation

Wouldn't be a proper BlackInk post it if didn't leave you scratching your head after reading it.

 

[BlackInk]

I-
Are you trying so say that Sakurai was trying to pressure them into making a slip that a Namco character was coming? Because if so that might be the wildest ****in stretch of logic I've ever heard, and that's saying something for speculation

Because it’s totally normal to readdress a mascot character in a very careful, robotical way. A character that’s pretty much public knowledge.

 

[Deleted member]

Ken is Gray. Inkling is Pink

Icydk
Is red with white clothing
Is grayish white with red clothing

nice detail am I right?

 

[Deleted member]

...smash 4 was gonna have a story mode?

Yeah. I don't remember the specifics of what made Sakurai cancel it, but it had to do with how much he didn't want it leaked.

 

[Deleted member]

Good morning everyone.

You guys spent the last few pages debating over DLC, Spirits, and 4th party reps. Also too much Wright discussion.

Typical everyday discussion if you ask me. I've got nothing new to offer at the table for the moment.

 

[MooMew64]

We really have just deluded ourselves into thinking Capcom and Namco are the frontrunners, huh? There's really no evidence for either, unless you count the sudden addition of Resident Evil spirits as a point in Capcom's favor.

TBH I don't think there are any frontrunners ATM. All we have are names in echo chambers like this thread we just keep repeating until Sabi or Verge say something, and then we pick another name.

I am 100% convinced we know jack squat and FP5 is gonna take everyone by surprise.

 

[Douglas J. Walker 94]

And let’s rename it to Nintendo vs capcom where not only they have all the capcom characters but remove all the non capcom 3rd parties on the roster

It would be sweet as Heaven if got a Capcom Smash brother's fighting game featuring all of their character's.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I'm honestly disappointed people are saying Capcom should have 10 more newcomers. Clearly they deserve at least 15

 

[perfectchaos83]

and i'm fine with that - it makes them pop out from the background more. If their BG color is the same color as an article of their clothing or fur or whatever it looks washed out and muted - look at Hero's bg for example and how he almost blends in. you don't want that, which is why I think an orange bg would be bad for Tracer or Crash (they're both confirmed to NOT be FP5 anyway so)

Yeah. I'm just saying that primary and secondary colors isn't exactly true, especially since there's several characters using some shade of Gray like Wolf or Snake.

 

[Deleted member]

TBH I don't think there are any frontrunners ATM. All we have are names in echo chambers like this thread we just keep repeating until Sabi or Verge say something, and then we pick another name.

I am 100% convinced we know jack squat and FP5 is gonna take everyone by surprise.

That's the hunch that got me there. You took the words outta my mouth. Honestly, all that is probably due to the lack of information we have, so we're using stand-ins.

Sigh...

 

[GoodGrief741]

On topic of Geralt, I do think an exception could be made from him. He did start from the books, but his Gaming History is most notable of the two. People might not know Geralt came from books, but they sure know about the Witcher Video game

I do think a problem is that the guy who made the books still owns him i believe, and i know him and CD Projeckt Red had a dispute not too long ago. that's the main issue

Actually, CDPR got the rights to any videogame usage of the Witcher in perpetuity, so that's what the writer was pissed off about (his books became mainstream because of games but he wasn't seeing money from them).

So while the guy might probably *****, there's nothing that requires negotiating with him.

 

[Douglas J. Walker 94]

Good morning everyone.

You guys spent the last few pages debating over DLC, Spirits, and 4th party reps. Also too much Wright discussion.

Typical everyday discussion if you ask me. I've got nothing new to offer at the table for the moment.

Good Morning??? It's late in the afternoon (3:58 p.m). Did you not sleep well last night mam?

 

[Deleted member]

Good Morning??? It's late in the afternoon (3:58 p.m). Did you not sleep well last night mam?

Fyi, I'm from the Philippines. It's 5:00 AM from here.

 

[Deleted member]

Good Morning??? It's late in the afternoon (3:58 p.m). Did you not sleep well last night mam?

She lives in the Philippines

 

[BlackInk]

You're telling me Sakurai wanted Namco to leak their DLC character? Sakurai is the same man who cancelled Smash 4's adventure mode because its story would be leaked online. He hates leaks.

The conversations are obviously private. However, it does imply Sakurai is doing these weird exchanges for a reason, he’s testing them.