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That’s cool and all, but you don’t probably know which place Ike loves to visit the most.Public Service Announcement:
On the new decree of the human race, it is officially declared that if you don't like Ike you are objectively wrong.
I haven't gotten to there yet, but from what I saw from the screen shots, it looks like the most visually un-Fire Emblem stage you could choose for Fire Emblem. And I mean that in a good way. Plus it gives us dubstep in Smash and that's always a plus.
Is it possible to preorder a game from a post?
I'll be honest, I'm actually hopeful that FE representation will be much better from now on, if only because Sakurai did the surprising thing and included Chrom. To me, that shows a willingness to double back and include old fan favorites.
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Well, it doesn't matter what I think, does it? Let's ask Dedede, Gordo and Hammer what they think of Ike, their opinions have been known to leave a more lasting impression-- ohPublic Service Announcement:
On the new decree of the human race, it is officially declared that if you don't like Ike you are objectively wrong.
Fire Emblem fans be like:
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People really think you gotta deserve to be in Smash in 2019.
Click on the like button and hold it for 5 seconds.
aw **** yeah i always knew the gatekeeper had it in him
It is a small change true, but one that makes a pretty big difference in the competitive scene. (The mechanic as a whole doesn't really apply to casual matches though.)
Pretty much every character from Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3Ds/Wii U onward is incredibly creative so I'm not sure how exactly this point makes sense. What large general mechanics would you add without making things overly complicated? Even Rivals of Aether, a completely different game, is pretty much just Smash without shields and ledges at the most basic level.
He does have his fans but from what I've seen just as many if not more people hate him.
Gatekeepers are dope
Of late or ever before.
Damn Marth actually looks pretty badass in this drawing. He looks like an official king instead of Romeo with blue hair.
"Creative" is not the issue, I'm talking about how they seem to be restricted by the controls of Smash. For example Terry has a back+B move but as a result his ability to turn is kind of limited and he controls awkwardly in the air. He also has two super specials that require inputs to perform. Hero has the most specials of any character but they're all confined to his down+B and he has no other way to use them.
I'm not sure you understand the point of Smash being accessible. More serious inputs would make it less accessible and drive more of the player base away, which Nintendo definitely doesn't want. And a bunch of Smash players probably wouldn't like some of these changes either for that matter. An underwater stage might be cool, but that can be implemented in without having to do too many changes to the game and just as a super special little stage.
Hero's Command Selection is kinda weird, though if he had access to all of those special attacks at the same time he'd be super broken. A smaller special count that used more buttons might be interesting though.
The first change would make the game harder to play, which kinda goes against it's more casual nature. It's not a bad idea for specific characters but I don't think it suits Smash as a general mechanic. (Also, your issues with Terry would become a bit more prevalent. Unless you were talking about his always facing the opponent thing which doesn't help your argument because that's an intentional change of the controls.)
That Lyn design wouldn't get past CERO though.FEH would be a goldmine for Fire Emblem character reworkings. Solid line up right here.
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Yes there is. Sakurai said that if the alts move even slightly different, even in idle, it can effect the course of battle. Therefor if they do move even slightly different they should be considered a separate fighter. All alts must move exactly the same. The exception would be on the victory screen where it doesn't matter.
Keep in mind the input example I chose is from a Kirby game and it's not necessary to succeed, it's just a little gimmicky move that isn't even very complicated to perform. Most of the input changes I proposed aren't complicated anyways. As for Smash players not liking some of the changes, that's just another form of the "it goes against tradition" argument.
No, giving Kirby Gazer Spiral wouldn't give him the same issues Terry has. It's not a QCF/QCB input, I'm not talking about doing that, but more simple things that give the characters more to work with than just the standard moveset. Gazer Spiral is one example, but I also had an example of another character who could input a dash in the air to be able to run in the air as if she were on the ground and then while in the air she could perform grounded Smash attacks. This is the kind of stuff I mean, just moves that are specific to characters that don't rely on the typical inputs.Hero's Command Selection is kinda weird, though if he had access to all of those special attacks at the same time he'd be super broken. A smaller special count that used more buttons might be interesting though.
Rosalina being weak on her own is by design. The two are supposed to protect each other in order to achieve victory just as the Ice Climbers are powerful together but vulnerable alone.
The first change would make the game harder to play, which kinda goes against it's more casual nature. It's not a bad idea for specific characters but I don't think it suits Smash as a general mechanic. (Also, your issues with Terry would become a bit more prevalent. Unless you were talking about his always facing the opponent thing which doesn't help your argument because that's an intentional change of the controls.)
Momentum based movement is a bad idea in fighting games. Just ask Super Smash Flash. It would also go against most character's source material since the platforming characters typically have tight controls. Even Mario can stop on a dime nowadays.
Could be interesting depending on the implementation. My only issue is that it might force a lot of characters to get attacks that don't really make sense for them to have in a base moveset (like Hot Slap).
This would make an interesting stage gimmick, but I wouldn't exactly call it an innovation. Everyone just gets infinite jumps, and perhaps a bit floatier.
That Lyn design wouldn't get past CERO though.
That goes against the entire point of Smash. Giving every character the same inputs is what makes it so accessible, that control scheme is as integral to Smash as the damage percentage or KOs being achieved by ringouts.
Well that's a steaming hot yet incorrect take if I've ever seen one.
QCF and QCB are some of the most simple inputs though. They could do stuff like diagonally downward specials but that would be a bit more prone to misinputs in practice then you might realize.
Again, you didn't read what I said. I didn't say I'd change it, I said I'd add to it in specific areas.
I don't understand the people who say this. Smash is one of the biggest franchises ever, what makes you think we're not getting a Smash 6? Is the world going to end right after Smash Ultimate is finished? Because that's the only way Smash 6 isn't going to happen.
It's gonna be a long ass time til Smash 6 regardless.
Yes, it would be built around that, that's the point. It would be a smash game built from the ground up. Honestly all I can really see from your counterpoints is a negative bias against the idea, possibly stemming from the same nonsensical traditionalist point of view. You keep saying things like "it wouldnt work", "it wouldn't be smash", based on absolutely nothing. It's time to just admit you have a bias against any alterations to the game. Because either you don't understand how this idea would work or you just dismiss it offhand for being too different to what you're used to. How do you know it wouldnt work? Why can't they add character specific inputs, or an extra attack button, or new techniques like EX specials? What's stopping a momentum based movement platform fighter from being Smash in the hands of capable devs? Your answer to all of these is basically the same: "it wouldn't be the Smash I know". Which as I said for the umtpteenth time is the point. It's trying new things that, if they worked, would vastly increase the scope and depth of Smash and possibly make it more fun.
Let's make a compromise. We get a Zelda newcomer, but it's
Sakurai wouldn’t do all this grand stuff if this wasn’t a finale of sorts, and he’s probably gonna stop making smash games and the chances of a new one aren’t likely for years, just stick to ultimate please
If you say that too many people are too quick to hop on a leak train, I'd say that has a lot of merit. If you say that leakers carry too much clout and co-opt an unnecessary amount of attention and devotion, I'd say that has merit too. If you say leaks should always be questioned, I can get behind that.
Like, don't get me wrong, if people don't wanna put stock in what Vergeben says, that's completely up to them.
Well what do you know, that fits Byleth's place in society AND personality! Hopefully Sakurai will grant you your wish soon
Forget the Grinch leaker, the ESRB leaker managed to create gameplay that was basically identical to the finished product. That's real talent.
