Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[BZL8]

On the topic of first parties, here's something that might be worth looking.

So I was going over the Spirit Events and stuff, because something caught in my mind. And here's a list of every Nintendo published game since October of last year, including Smash, and their corresponding spirits:

Super Mario Party - Spirit Event
Let's Go! Pikachu & Eevee - Gift Spirits
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - Spirits In-Game
New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe - Spirit Event
Tetris 99 - Spirit Event
Yoshi's Crafted World - Spirits In-Game
Nintendo Labo VR - Spirit Event
BoxBoy + BoxGirl - N/A
Super Mario Maker 2 - N/A
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 - N/A
Fire Emblem: Three Houses - N/A
Super Kirby Clash - N/A
Astral Chain - N/A
Dragon Quest XIS - Gift Spirit
Daemon X Machina - Spirit Event
Link's Awakening - Spirit Event
Ring Fit Adventure - N/A
Luigi's Mansion 3 - N/A

Looking this over, is that N/A list striking to anyone else? You essentially have three categories for sensible exceptions:

- No new major characters (SMM2, BoxBoy, that F2P Kirby thing)
- Licensed characters (MUA3)
- Came out in the past 30 days (Ring Fit, LM3)

Which leaves Astral Chain and Three Houses as literally the only odd men out. They have new, unique characters, are major retails releases, came out months ago, and we haven't seen anything at all from them.

I've been assuming that post-pass DLC would be 100% third party, same as before, but the fact they've conspicuously avoided two major releases this year that have popular, plausible newcomers makes me think they're at least up for consideration. If we end up getting a Ring Fit and/or LM3 event in the next few weeks, that's gonna be notable, I think.

Take this into account too: Nintendo holds events in Tetris 99 to advertise games too, and so far, we've had no overlaps:

Fire Emblem: Three Houses - Tetris 99 Event
Super Kirby Clash - Tetris 99 Event
Luigi's Mansion 3 - Tetris 99 Event
Pokemon Sword and Shield - Tetris 99 Event

and that still leave Astral Chain as something absent from both.

Source 1, Source 2

 

[Guynamednelson]

Well to you and me, they're just a bunch of JPEG images but I'm confident that Sakurai thinks differently about them. They power you up, act as a role-play of that character and are used as prizes for online tournaments so I'm not going to rule out the possibility that spirits deconfirm characters (As much as everyone is tired of hearing that).

Except the list of characters who can equip spirits of themselves includes not only base characters, but Joker. They don't care about spirits making sense if the first DLC spirit board includes a redundant spirit.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Except the list of characters who can equip spirits of themselves includes not only base characters, but Joker.

Not really since they are alter egos of the characters and sure you can equip Joker... with the rest of the Phantom Thieves so it's not actually Joker.

You'd have a lot more ground if you could equip Fighter Spirits but you can't and they don't work like proper spirits.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Not really since they are alter egos of the characters and sure you can equip Joker... with the rest of the Phantom Thieves so it's not actually Joker.

You'd have a lot more ground if you could equip Fighter Spirits but you can't and they don't work like proper spirits.

Still, does the Phantom Thieves spirit really make sense when its individual members already have spirits?

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Still, does the Phantom Thieves spirit really make sense when its individual members already have spirits?

Of course it does. The spirit is called "the Phantom Thieves" as an organisation, not as individual characters.

 

[Ricksaw]

I wasn't saying a Smash reveal at TGA must mean a western character or a character who only appeals to the western audience. But as someone said I can't see characters like KOS-MOS or Reimu being announced there.
Most likely scenario for a Smash reveal there is a character with worlwide appeal in general, and if we got a Joker 2.0 in terms of an unexpected character it would be a character from a franchise that's in it's peak of popularity, like Joker. The most similar character to him I can imagine is 2B.



Perspectives.
For me was really big, like Joker.

I agree with you, 2B should be in.

 

[Nekoo]

Except the list of characters who can equip spirits of themselves includes not only base characters, but Joker. They don't care about spirits making sense if the first DLC spirit board includes a redundant spirit.

That's the exact same argument that was used base game to say that spirit don't deconfirm.
Spoiler, it did.
And now it's the same argument that's being used for DLC.
Spoiler #2 So far 4/5 did.

Sakurai specifically don't count spirits from different itération of the character as the same as the character itself.
Mario Striker isn't Mario.
Wii Fits yoga poses aren't Wii Fit Trainer.
Super Sonic isn't Sonic.

Etc etc etc.

That's why they clearly differenciate FIGHTER SPIRITS which are the spirits of the fighters themselves, the CURRENT iteration of the fighters, the one that fights in Smash bros with the one we see in Spirit mode.

What's so hard to understand?

 

[Ricksaw]

I'm going to be honest that, if we get a TGA reveal for Fighter Pass 5, no matter what Sakurai said about "Being fun to play is better than being recognizable" I feel that showing the Fighter Pass 5 at the TGA means that said character have a broadcast appeal or out of the Appeal of Nintendo fans, a character that would perhaps be too "out of place" in a Nintendo Direct.

I know we always got the "Smash never ended with Big reveal"
And I'd agree, but for me, Smash Ultimate last reveal was Joker, as it was announced before the game released- which is by itself something preeeetty big, and fit that "Out of the smash/Nintendo fanbase" character.

We now know that the Mii Costumes aren't related to the FP5, and with the recent speaking of Sabi and Vergeben, we know that:
-It's not Ryu
-Not Crash
-Not Scorpion
-Not Geno
-Not Doomguy

Most of them have been big in the speculation circle for most of it (except Scorpion, however like Doomguy, a TGA reveal for him would be natural)
Now, taking into account this, and "what kind of character would being a massive appeal" outside of Nintendo fans, the following are the one I see:

- Dante, obviously is the one I see the most in that case, DMC V did amazingly, and had a live performance of Devil Trigger last TGA. I can see him bring another massive surprise and appeal to everyone, making him a case of "more people happy than unhappy"
-LLoyd, okay, that one is an odd-one, lots of people would say that "BUT TALES OF SYMPHONIA IS NINTENDO!" or heavily related to Nintendo, however I think it's not true as since Tales of the Abyss Portable on 3DS or Vesperia Definitive edition,, we didn't get any Tales of game or mainline tales of game, as they're now mostly/exclusively on Playstations (Alongside the Xillia,2,Graces, Real final version of Abyss and lots and lots of others games.)
-And that last one is just my personal Bias, but I still believe that if Sora is getting announced, it's not in a classic Nintendo Direct, but in one of those mainstream appeal event, like TGA or E3, and with Kingdom Hearts 3 being out this year, and probably absolutely in the best RPG of the year catégory (even if the fans reception was lukewarm at best, the game is still a great game nonetheless), I wouldn't be surprised if he could get his announcement here.

This list is missing 2B.

 

[Nekoo]

This list is missing 2B.

I'd agree on 2B, and lowkey want her a lot, if it wasn't for god damn CERO getting mad at anything boobs or ass related.
Only way I can see her getting in, is if she get the Mythra spirit treatment, but bro.

>2B without that "main appeal"

Doesn't feel right for me.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

This list is missing 2B.

I think 2B and KOS-MOS (If what she even wears counts as a skirt) are out of the running IF CERO has a problem with them which they most likely will if their artwork is anything to go by. Sakurai could have used Mai's other clothes but he didn't so it may be the same fate for those two as well.

 

[yeet123]

I think 2B and KOS-MOS (If what she even wears counts as a skirt) are out of the running IF CERO has a problem with them which they most likely will if their artwork is anything to go by. Sakurai could have used Mai's other clothes but he didn't so it may be the same fate for those two as well.

I'd agree on 2B, and lowkey want her a lot, if it wasn't for god damn CERO getting mad at anything boobs or ass related.
Only way I can see her getting in, is if she get the Mythra spirit treatment, but bro.

>2B without that "main appeal"

Doesn't feel right for me.

BAYONETTA

 

[Evil Trapezium]

BAYONETTA

No upskirt, no problem.

 

[Nekoo]

BAYONETTA

People screaming Bayonetta doesn't get that she's already heavily censored compared to her main game.

 

[yeet123]

No upskirt, no problem.

People screaming Bayonetta doesn't get that she's already heavily censored compared to her main game.

You act like women cant wear tights with a skirt.

Its obvious to me that Sakurai is able to translate a "sexy" Platinum character in to Smash easily.

 

[Nekoo]

You act like women cant wear tights with a skirt.

Its obvious to me that Sakurai is able to translate a "sexy" Platinum character in to Smash easily.

Then tell us why he didn't do it for Mai?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

The way I see this CERO debacle is

Mai's design had sexuality as a main focus. Sideboobs, two flaps of cloth covering the front and back of a seemingly panty-less crotch, her POSE AND IDLE ANIMATIONS MOST NOTABLY WITH HER BAZONGAS SWINGING. 2B's, Velvet's and KOS-MOS's designs don't have sexuality as a focus in comparison. In fact the first things you see when you see them in combat is their badass combat ready-ness. KOS-MOS can just get shorts for example.

 

[RaintheCriminalWhirlwind]

I'll never get why "Who" and "Literally Who" have become such a big thing in Smash. It just says something about how some characters need more recognition and love and not be in a narrow minded tunnel. It just gets annoying to see.

And really, no matter who #5 is, there'll be some level of backlash. Whether it's Doom Slayer, Geno, KOS-MOS, An RE Rep, Reimu, etc etc there'll be some sort of backlash. And it tends to die down a week or two after their announcements.

Anyone that goes "Literally Who?" are either people that are just trying to undermine the fans of that particular character or they really don't play games/fighting games outside of Smash/Nintendo

 

[Icedragonadam]

I just noticed that each of the fighter's Pass characters's series debuted on a different console of the pre-2000s.

Joker: Playstation 1(since Nintendo seems to treat Persona as a separate series from SMT for Smash)

Hero: NES

Banjo: Nintendo 64

Terry: Neo Geo

 

[yeet123]

Then tell us why he didn't do it for Mai?

The way I see this CERO debacle is

Mai's design had sexuality as a main focus. Sideboobs, two flaps of cloth covering the front and back of a seemingly panty-less crotch, her POSE AND IDLE ANIMATIONS MOST NOTABLY WITH HER BAZONGAS SWINGING. 2B's, Velvet's and KOS-MOS's designs don't have sexuality as a focus in comparison. In fact the first things you see when you see them in combat is their badass combat ready-ness. KOS-MOS can just get shorts for example.

this ^^

additionally, Mai isnt a playable character. Im speculating, but im willing to bet Sakurai or Nintendo asked, "Why bother?"

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I will say tho, it's a lil weird Mai doesn't even get a Spirit and they pull a Camilla/Mythra with the Spirit's image

 

[Nekoo]

The way I see this CERO debacle is

Mai's design had sexuality as a main focus. Sideboobs, two flaps of cloth covering the front and back of a seemingly panty-less crotch, her POSE AND IDLE ANIMATIONS MOST NOTABLY WITH HER BAZONGAS SWINGING. 2B's, Velvet's and KOS-MOS's designs don't have sexuality as a focus in comparison. In fact the first things you see when you see them in combat is their badass combat ready-ness. KOS-MOS can just get shorts for example.

this ^^

additionally, Mai isnt a playable character. Im speculating, but im willing to bet Sakurai or Nintendo asked, "Why bother?"

Velvet and Kos-Mos are fine, there no "panties shot" in risk.
What CERO become red about is panties shot, and is why we get dark black void for any dress characters-
I never had a problem with Velvet and Kos-Mos (in fact, both would be super amazing) but 2B would have some...Skirt problem

 

[GoodGrief741]

On the topic of first parties, here's something that might be worth looking.



Source 1, Source 2

Time to celebrate, we getting Qbby!

The way I see this CERO debacle is

Mai's design had sexuality as a main focus. Sideboobs, two flaps of cloth covering the front and back of a seemingly panty-less crotch, her POSE AND IDLE ANIMATIONS MOST NOTABLY WITH HER BAZONGAS SWINGING. 2B's, Velvet's and KOS-MOS's designs don't have sexuality as a focus in comparison. In fact the first things you see when you see them in combat is their badass combat ready-ness. KOS-MOS can just get shorts for example.

You could make the argument for 2B, since, you know, her design definitely speaks to Yoko Taro's... tastes. She's absolutely a badass first and foremost, but imo being attractive is definitely a key point of the character design.

 

[SuperSmashLover]

First, a meme

inhales* OKAY!

There are only two things I believe that are guaranteed at this point. The first, mostly due to the above, is the very high chance of the FP5 character being another dude. The second, that they are a 3rd party character.

I'm going to play devil's advocate and suggest that because all the biggest names tons of people have asked for are included in the game already (either as a playable fighter or as AT/Spirit) at this point, we should start thinking about characters that maybe didn't have a chance before due to "not being as popular as (character xyz)" but now are basically next in line to be picked.

Going forward, Nintendo characters should start being added again, mixed in with 3rd party reveals.
I mean, can you really imagine that the final Nintendo-owned character added to smash would be Piranha Plant? I know I certainly don't.

 

[ES. Dinah]

I think 2B and KOS-MOS (If what she even wears counts as a skirt) are out of the running IF CERO has a problem with them which they most likely will if their artwork is anything to go by. Sakurai could have used Mai's other clothes but he didn't so it may be the same fate for those two as well.

just reposting this from my thread but

I just don’t get the argument that KOS-MOS wouldn’t get past CERO ppl are throwing around.

Saying KOS-MOS can’t get in cause Mai was too sexy like really? I fail to even see the argument here. Refrain’s design is obviously not designed with sex appeal in mind and the designer even said she was made to look “cuter” Overall, to me it really seems very tame for smash and it’s obviously inspired by KOS-MOS version 1. If Sakurai were to put a black void to avoid upskirt problems then she passes Cero with no problem at all. Moreover, I’m not even sure how it would not pass the Cero test. She has no boob window exposed, she looks much less sexy and her appeal seems to be the new “gravity shell” pink energy. Yes, basically she’s just KOS-MOS but cuter. I see no issue.

In comparison here is all her versions before XB2

People seem to be using Sakurai’s exclusion of Mai for any character under the sun now and it’s a bit irritating.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

That's the exact same argument that was used base game to say that spirit don't deconfirm.
Spoiler, it did.

????

Spirits were revealed right after all the base game fighters were revealed? How did people use that argument if the game wasn't even released yet, exactly?

And now it's the same argument that's being used for DLC.
Spoiler #2 So far 4/5 did.

Sakurai specifically don't count spirits from different itération of the character as the same as the character itself.
Mario Striker isn't Mario.
Wii Fits yoga poses aren't Wii Fit Trainer.
Super Sonic isn't Sonic.

Etc etc etc.

That's why they clearly differenciate FIGHTER SPIRITS which are the spirits of the fighters themselves, the CURRENT iteration of the fighters, the one that fights in Smash bros with the one we see in Spirit mode.

What's so hard to understand?

You can talk about your "alternate forms" all you want, but at the end of the day its incredibly stupid to think that a PNG image would stop them from adding a character post Fighter's Pass when Mewtwo and Lucas had both a Fighter and a Non Fighter Trophy in Smash 4. OH NOES BUt they AfFecT GaMEPlaY! YoU CAn INterACt wiTh ThEm (never mind the fact you could interact with trophies all the time in previous Smash games). Oh, yeah, generic stat buffs that are shared across multiple spirits that no one even pays that much attention to in the first place are going to make a character equipping their own spirit soooooo confusing.

 

[RaintheCriminalWhirlwind]

Taking in the fact that Sakurai loves Nier: Automata, the fact that she has worldwide appeal, taking into account that she has been in two crossovers already with Final Fantasy and Soul Calibur and also the game itself being phenomenal, I'm calling my shot now that 2B will be in Smash as the 5th fighter.

Some might argue that her game is not on a Nintendo platform. That has lost its meaning since Cloud since (at the time) Cloud had no games on any Nintendo console and no, a bit cameo in a side game of Kingdom Hearts doesn't count.

Some might say that CERO could go against it. Mai had a **** ton of of reasons why CERO didn't want her in and I originally wanted Mai in Smash. For all we know, CERO might be a-ok with 2B's outfit as is or may ask for her to wear tights ala F!Corrin, which is fine as well. We aren't CERO so we shouldn't start axing characters like some armchair experts.

And another point, if anyone played Nier: Automata, The game maker actively discourage any perverted behavior when trying to upskirt 2B so if they had to change the design slightly, Yoko Taro would probably be all about that.

And keep in mind, I might be totally wrong and Phoenix Wright could be next (Which would be awesome due to me being a huge mark for Phoenix Wright) or KOS-MOS (Who looks awesome as hell too) or even someone unexpected but at the end of the day, that is what I choose to believe until Sakurai appears on our computer screens to tell us who get the final spot.

just reposting this from my thread but

I just don’t get the argument that KOS-MOS wouldn’t get past CERO ppl are throwing around.

Saying KOS-MOS can’t get in cause Mai was too sexy like really? I fail to even see the argument here. Refrain’s design is obviously not designed with sex appeal in mind and the designer even said she was made to look “cuter” Overall, to me it really seems very tame for smash and it’s obviously inspired by KOS-MOS version 1. If Sakurai were to put a black void to avoid upskirt problems then she passes Cero with no problem at all. Moreover, I’m not even sure how it would not pass the Cero test. She has no boob window exposed, she looks much less sexy and her appeal seems to be the new “gravity shell” pink energy. Yes, basically she’s just KOS-MOS but cuter. I see no issue.

In comparison here is all her versions before XB2

People seem to be using Sakurai’s exclusion of Mai for any character under the sun now and it’s a bit irritating.

I agree, it's really stupid.

 

[shinhed-echi]

I may not be a big Phoenix Wright fan. But I would love to see his trailer.

I can only imagine something along the lines of Phoenix calling forth witnesses, and Pit (KI:U 2D art) is one of them. Chrom is another one, and then Bowser is the one proven guilty.

Phoenix rests his case.

 

[Animegamingnerd]

If 2B got in and was reveal before the end of the month, then like everyone is gonna fail no nut November.

 

[cj.]

I just noticed that each of the fighter's Pass characters's series debuted on a different console of the pre-2000s.

Joker: Playstation 1(since Nintendo seems to treat Persona as a separate series from SMT for Smash)

Hero: NES

Banjo: Nintendo 64

Terry: Neo Geo

If I had to choose characters with debut on different consoles, these would be
Fighter Pack 1
1- Joker: Playstation 3
2- Hero: NES
3- Banjo: Nintendo 64
4- Terry: Neo Geo
5-Doom Slayer: MS DOS

Fighter Pack 2
1-Earthworm Jim: Sega Genesis
2-Scorpion: Arcade
3-Pitfall Harry:Atari 2600
4-Heavy Weapons: PC
5-Crono: Super Nintendo

 

[Evil Trapezium]

just reposting this from my thread but

I just don’t get the argument that KOS-MOS wouldn’t get past CERO ppl are throwing around.

Saying KOS-MOS can’t get in cause Mai was too sexy like really? I fail to even see the argument here. Refrain’s design is obviously not designed with sex appeal in mind and the designer even said she was made to look “cuter” Overall, to me it really seems very tame for smash and it’s obviously inspired by KOS-MOS version 1. If Sakurai were to put a black void to avoid upskirt problems then she passes Cero with no problem at all. Moreover, I’m not even sure how it would not pass the Cero test. She has no boob window exposed, she looks much less sexy and her appeal seems to be the new “gravity shell” pink energy. Yes, basically she’s just KOS-MOS but cuter. I see no issue.

People seem to be using Sakurai’s exclusion of Mai for any character under the sun now and it’s a bit irritating.

How can you put a void up a skirt that small? This is assuming that what KOS-MOS is wearing in Xenoblade 2 even is a skirt. You can't just take CERO lightly with this sort of thing as Sakurai stated in an interview about Palutena's censorship that he had lots of trouble with CERO with a character as tame as her to the point he felt they were being childish.
https://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/09/18/cero-and-palutenas-censorship/

 

[3BitSaurus]

Taking in the fact that Sakurai loves Nier: Automata, the fact that she has worldwide appeal, taking into account that she has been in two crossovers already with Final Fantasy and Soul Calibur and also the game itself being phenomenal, I'm calling my shot now that 2B will be in Smash as the 5th fighter.

Some might argue that her game is not on a Nintendo platform. That has lost its meaning since Cloud since (at the time) Cloud had no games on any Nintendo console and no, a bit cameo in a side game of Kingdom Hearts doesn't count.

Some might say that CERO could go against it. Mai had a **** ton of of reasons why CERO didn't want her in and I originally wanted Mai in Smash. For all we know, CERO might be a-ok with 2B's outfit as is or may ask for her to wear tights ala F!Corrin, which is fine as well. We aren't CERO so we shouldn't start axing characters like some armchair experts.

And another point, if anyone played Nier: Automata, The game maker actively discourage any perverted behavior when trying to upskirt 2B so if they had to change the design slightly, Yoko Taro would probably be all about that.

And keep in mind, I might be totally wrong and Phoenix Wright could be next (Which would be awesome due to me being a huge mark for Phoenix Wright) or KOS-MOS (Who looks awesome as hell too) or even someone unexpected but at the end of the day, that is what I choose to believe until Sakurai appears on our computer screens to tell us who get the final spot.

I personally don't see 2B being the last in the Pass. Dunno, maybe I'm biased because she's my second most wanted right now, but I think she's way too big of a deal for a spot that is , uh, "historically" reserved for "safer" picks, Smash-wise.

That said, she's definitely a very strong possibility for next season - especially if Sora counts as Disney rather than Square. I could definitely see her being the "Joker" of season 2 while Sora is the "Banjo and Kazooie". The connection between Sakurai and Yoko Taro leaves me wondering, too...

 

[Izanagi97]

Only thing I've gotten so far after skimming some pages is that 4 or so highly speculated characters are not part of FP5 according to trusted leakers and people are still talking about CERO

 

[Michael the Spikester]

If 2B got in and was reveal before the end of the month, then like everyone is gonna fail no nut November.

At least we'd finally get FP5 so that's what matters and female to boot which would make a certain someone happy. ;P

 

[Pinguino21v]

All the criticisms toward as Luigi’s mansion 3 pack are very valid, I’d love it but I’m also biased, either way I’m thinking we are definitely getting a promotional first party at some point, and I’d hope it be from this as opposed to sword shield or something

Isaac to promote Golden Sun Remaster.

You heard it here, guys.

 

[Nekoo]

????

Spirits were revealed right after all the base game fighters were revealed? How did people use that argument if the game wasn't even released yet, exactly?



You can talk about your "alternate forms" all you want, but at the end of the day its incredibly stupid to think that a PNG image would stop them from adding a character post Fighter's Pass when Mewtwo and Lucas had both a Fighter and a Non Fighter Trophy in Smash 4. OH NOES BUt they AfFecT GaMEPlaY! Oh, yeah, generic stat buffs that are shared across multiple spirits that no one even pays that much attention to in the first place are going to make a character equipping their own spirit soooooo confusing.

Then go ahead. Prove me wrong.
Until we see a single Spirit becoming a DLC THAT rule is moot point.

 

[Deleted member]

At least we'd finally get FP5 so that's what matters and female to boot which would make a certain someone happy. ;P

I see you. Seem impressed? That's what I hate about it. Everyone clearly says if it's female then they'll say, "Finally, Lesley can shut up."

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Then go ahead. Prove me wrong.
Until we see a single Spirit becoming a DLC THAT rule is moot point.

Why don’t YOU prove ME wrong? You’re the one making up a rule out of thin air, the rule that says Spirits Deconfirm. I’m the one saying that “rules” for character inclusions are stupid and will almost always be broken, as they have been for a large portion of Smash's history. The burden of proof is on the accuser, which is YOU.

Until Sakurai comes out and says any character that is a Spirit can’t be a character, YOUR rule is a moot point.

 

[GoodGrief741]

I see you. Seem impressed? That's what I hate about it. Everyone clearly says if it's female then they'll say, "Finally, Lesley can shut up."

Who cares about what people think? If you get what you want, **** everything else.

 

[Nekoo]

Why don’t you prove me wrong? You’re the one making a rule, the rule that says Spirits Deconfirm. I’m the one saying that “rules” for character inclusions are stupid and will almost always be broken. The burden of proof is on the accuser, which is you.

Until Sakurai comes out and says any character that is a Spirit can’t be a character, your rule is a moot point.

Okay, then how about the fact that PP didn't had any spirit in the base game, where there was a spirit for ALL of mario's enemies, but hey, who care?
How about the fact that not a single fighter is a spirit after being 4/5 fighters in?
Do you think that fighter 5 will magically change that?

Spoiler, it won't.
People though that pre-release, that the fighter pass will have Spirits as fighter.
It didn't.
And it won't.

 

[cmbsfm]

I see you. Seem impressed? That's what I hate about it. Everyone clearly says if it's female then they'll say, "Finally, Lesley can shut up."

Well if you don’t want to people to think that, then maybe you shouldn’t go into threads of characters that were “leaked” and whine about sexism while they’re getting hyped.