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Newbie Mafia 16/Homestuck Trolls Mafia - Game over! Who won?
- Thread starter #HBC | Dancer
- Start date
So that all pretty much means... nothing has been established?
I'm a null-leaning scum? What does that even mean lol?
I'm a null-leaning scum? What does that even mean lol?
It means that he is reading you as null-leaning scum which makes you a null read that has some scummy looking posts. Nothing solidifying that you are scum in his reads list buuuut it could lead further or he can recant it based on things. That's pretty much what people mean when they say null-leaning scum/null-leaning town.
Courier, what do you make of Mine and Ryker's conversation?
Courier, what do you make of Mine and Ryker's conversation?
Actually you're the one who said null-leaning scum 
Um as for the chat between you two... I feel like Ryker is using the fact that you're a mentor to everybody (regardless of alignment) against you. Could this be a play to take the attention off him (Ryker)? I realize this is a wifom but what else can we do at this stage of the game?
Regarding the RVS, we are all newbies and I actually hope this lasts as long as possible (because I want to learn as much about this game as I can - having the RVS end so abruptly would suck).
Um as for the chat between you two... I feel like Ryker is using the fact that you're a mentor to everybody (regardless of alignment) against you. Could this be a play to take the attention off him (Ryker)? I realize this is a wifom but what else can we do at this stage of the game?
Regarding the RVS, we are all newbies and I actually hope this lasts as long as possible (because I want to learn as much about this game as I can - having the RVS end so abruptly would suck).
Dear God, that's the scum team.
Okay I understand your position and it makes sense to me... but I was just speaking what I was actually thinking.
You really think I'm some expert that's plotting something with J? Seems like a desperate play to me if you're trying to use the learning process as evidence to point out who's scum and town.
#HBC | Dancer
The nicest of the damned.
1. o-Serin-o
2. Courier
3. Vinyl. (1) - ORI_bro
4. Orboknown (2) - o-Serin-o, Darkside
5. Darkside
6. ORI_bro (1) - J
7. Cilvyn (1) - Orboknown
8. J (1) - Ryker
9. Ryker (3) - Cilvyn, Vinyl., Courier
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!
2. Courier
3. Vinyl. (1) - ORI_bro
4. Orboknown (2) - o-Serin-o, Darkside
5. Darkside
6. ORI_bro (1) - J
7. Cilvyn (1) - Orboknown
8. J (1) - Ryker
9. Ryker (3) - Cilvyn, Vinyl., Courier
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!
Orboknown
Smash Hero
Thank you J.
Cilvyn,what problem is there with ryker(an established,authoritative player) taking charge?He hasn't done anything scummy yet to me.
Cilvyn,what problem is there with ryker(an established,authoritative player) taking charge?He hasn't done anything scummy yet to me.
Orboknown
Smash Hero
Rker,explain why i should vote with you.Not that i am against it, just want any reasoning.
Because they're scum, first and foremost. As a rule of thumb, following my votes generally makes it so that I win. When I'm town, that means you can win too.Rker,explain why i should vote with you.Not that i am against it, just want any reasoning.
But that aside, what is YOUR stance on both J and Courier? What do you think about their approach to dealing with me?
Orboknown
Smash Hero
Orboknown
Smash Hero
About J-J has been completely going against you.I think you are town, and J could be going against you to draw pressure iff of Courier,Whom i agree with your argument on.
1.) I have not interferred with your "moving the game forward" which in your mind is just getting everyone to listen to you.
2.) You pointed out about the WIFOM IC thing. You aren't really answering questions for the newbies.
3.) Do you realize why I said what I said? It was in response to Courier.
@Orbo: What do you think of Ryker trying to use the fact he's a mentor to acquire votes by saying, "Rule of thumb, following me usually results in a win."?
Orboknown
Smash Hero
Why do you think Ryker is town? On the other side of this wifom is Ryker being scum trying to frame the town players.About J-J has been completely going against you.I think you are town, and J could be going against you to draw pressure iff of Courier,Whom i agree with your argument on.
His very quick hop-on onto Ryker had me worried and the way he tried to fluff his vote with a little reasoning seemed off to me.What?please rephrase this J.
Then there was the way he tried to discredit Ryker before he had even begun to defend himself by saying, "What is there to defend?"
Unvote
Vote: Vinyl
Orboknown
Smash Hero
The thing is,i've read past mafia where Ryker was a leader in finding/outing scum. Following anyone blindly is a bad path, especially if he/she is mafia..
So right now i agree with ryker on courier,But not on you.
For now.
Taking a sshower bwcause i smell like restaraunt.Be back in an hour or less.
Orboknown
Smash Hero
Orbo, you're a sheep. You realize that right. Figure out what YOU think.
J, you're full of ****. You could not follow me all you like and you STILL don't have to interrupt what other players are doing. That is a Mafia 101 scumtell and you know it.
J, you're full of ****. You could not follow me all you like and you STILL don't have to interrupt what other players are doing. That is a Mafia 101 scumtell and you know it.
Orboknown
Smash Hero
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Sigh.Ryker is right,gonna stay with my first instict.Vote Courier
Sigh.Ryker is right,gonna stay with my first instict.Vote Courier
So you are on my case because I called you out on a bluff that I supposedly knew just to force you to commit to a read that you weren't ready on? Sheesh
I didn't know you were shooting blanks hence why I asked you about it. I also can't know as well you did because, I'm not you. =P
You weren't helping the newbies by derailing their attempts at discussion with you by not giving them an answer and ignoring them so pushing them to vote their suspects that they want answers out of is in fact trying to teach them. W.r.t. Courier, I was curious as to what you were doing which is why I asked.
I didn't know you were shooting blanks hence why I asked you about it. I also can't know as well you did because, I'm not you. =P
You weren't helping the newbies by derailing their attempts at discussion with you by not giving them an answer and ignoring them so pushing them to vote their suspects that they want answers out of is in fact trying to teach them. W.r.t. Courier, I was curious as to what you were doing which is why I asked.
Explain?..
Sigh.Ryker is right,gonna stay with my first instict.Vote Courier
Unvote.
Aside: Seems to me by staying on the sidelines and not posting too much makes people not vote for you?
Orboknown
Smash Hero
Why lynch someone who has given next to no indication if their intents?Also,notice i have said nothing in response to your non-substantiated vote.
Hahaha.
TBH, the opposite usually happens in mafia games by the end of the deadline if people cannot agree on a consensus. The people who post a lot just make it easier to acquire a read on whether it be town or scum while the opposite is true, those who don't post a lot make it harder to acquire a read on them.
TBH, the opposite usually happens in mafia games by the end of the deadline if people cannot agree on a consensus. The people who post a lot just make it easier to acquire a read on whether it be town or scum while the opposite is true, those who don't post a lot make it harder to acquire a read on them.
Orboknown
Smash Hero
I originally had you as my vote.J made me doubt myself,and Ryker said to stop. So i went back to my first choice.
This feels like a contradiction. ">.>Why lynch someone who has given next to no indication if their intents?Also,notice i have said nothing in response to your non-substantiated vote.
You say an opinion to Dark based on his vote on you....then you say "I have said nothing in response to your non-substantiated vote." when this post is, in reality, a response to said vote.
Orboknown
Smash Hero
The post was not a response to his vote but rather to his claim that i would lynch him at first chance.
Yes I realized that already.I originally had you as my vote.J made me doubt myself,and Ryker said to stop. So i went back to my first choice.
Besides feeling the need to revote me for being called a Sheep, what exactly confirmed that I'm scum in your eyes?
I originally had you as my vote.J made me doubt myself,and Ryker said to stop. So i went back to my first choice.
Try doing what Orbo wants and not want anyone else wants.
If you feel like you should still be voting Courier because that is what you want than continue but otherwise you shouldn't follow what others are saying you should do unless they have given you good reason to. It's still too early in the game to follow them blindly just because. ^^"
Eeeeeeeeh, alright.The post was not a response to his vote but rather to his claim that i would lynch him at first chance.
What made you, however, need to point out that you hadn't responded to his vote?
He didn't answer my question so my "pressuring" tool failed on him.
Haha, that's just Ryker.
Your pressure tool has to stay on longer and have them more at a risk for being a lynch by recruiting other people to vote him.
Like let's say you wanted to get Ryker lynched based on him not answering questions, you'd have to convince people to agree to you. If you wanted to get my vote off of Vinyl and onto Ryker, I'd need to be convinced pretty heavily because I am not feeling a Ryker lynch at the time.
Courier, if you unvoted Ryker, who is your biggest scum-suspect now?
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Scum/Scum-suspect/Scum-read - Basically other words to describe Mafia/Anti-town members in which town is trying to extinguish from the game. It is more commonly used to use Scum because it is easier to type and more of a general word. =P
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Your pressure tool has to stay on longer and have them more at a risk for being a lynch by recruiting other people to vote him.
Like let's say you wanted to get Ryker lynched based on him not answering questions, you'd have to convince people to agree to you. If you wanted to get my vote off of Vinyl and onto Ryker, I'd need to be convinced pretty heavily because I am not feeling a Ryker lynch at the time.
Courier, if you unvoted Ryker, who is your biggest scum-suspect now?
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Scum/Scum-suspect/Scum-read - Basically other words to describe Mafia/Anti-town members in which town is trying to extinguish from the game. It is more commonly used to use Scum because it is easier to type and more of a general word. =P
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