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Newbie Mafia 12 FMP Fumoffu!: Game over!

adumbrodeus

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"I finally got you Sagara!

Ma'am, you know I have respect for authority figures, but if you keep interfering with my mission I am going to have to detonate you."

"Just try it lawbreaker!"


Wham! Crash! Pow! Boom! SCREECH! Meow! Honk-honk!


Later, Sagara wakes up in a hospital bed, but notes the police shield.

"What happened", he asked.

An attending nurse says, "you were brought in by Officer Youko for a traffic violation, something to do with improper bike usage, but you're currently being treated till you're well enough to stand trial".

And what about... Chibori.

Oh wasn't she the girl that was struck by the bolt of lightning?




Th3kuzinator, Sousuke Sagaratown Mason Jailkeeper has been sent up the river!


Votecount 1:

Ranmaru [0] -
TheBlueSpot [0] -
Fynal [0] -
Terywj [0] -
Blacknight99923 (Soren) [0] -
JTB [0] - JTB,
Seikend [0] -
asianaussie [0] -

Not Voting: Ranmaru, TheBlueSpot, Fynal, Blacknight99923 (Soren), JTB, Seikend, asianaussie,



With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 4 Beings!

A deadline has been set for Monday May 24thth at 0400

 

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Good.

I investigated AA as well. Fynal isn't scum.
 

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Taking Kuz' scumpicks because I know I can trust them now. So Ran and AA for sure.

Not sure on the third yet.
 

Fynal

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yea prettymuch.

aa is scum.
ran is so scummy its giving me heartburn.

im suspicious of siek, because i dont (and never have) like his claim, given that theres no doc. awaiting eagerly to see what happened to his role.

im suspicious of JTB by yesterDay's reasoning, but theres a lot of new stuff to digest on this one.

so yea, we're lynching ran toDay.
 

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From my POV, I really felt like Kuz was playing up to the newbies, which is why I pressed him so hard. All I can do now is take his reads and keep pressing them and secure town a win.

Ran is the play toDay, there's really no other option.
 

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Yup. I got the jailer role at the start of the Day. Will be usable from every Night onwards. Anything concerning the masonry has been edited out, just got flavour and jailer info.

Want to hear from Ran before my votes goes anywhere.

@Mod Is Soup flipping as "Kaname Chidori", but Kuz flipping as "Th3kuzinator" and not Sagara deliberate?
 

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Yup. I got the jailer role at the start of the Day. Will be usable from every Night onwards. Anything concerning the masonry has been edited out, just got flavour and jailer info.

Want to hear from Ran before my votes goes anywhere.

@Mod Is Soup flipping as "Kaname Chidori", but Kuz flipping as "Th3kuzinator" and not Sagara deliberate?
Nope, corrected.
 

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@aa, soren, tery, TBS: thoughts and/or ran votes please. Either would be nice.

@siek: current scumpicks?
 

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Also theres 3 scum left out of 8. If you don't vote for Ranmaru I am incredibly suspect as to your loyalty.

Basically we have to lynch scum toDay or we lose
 

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It's koo guys. I really thought Kuz was scum. He doesn't usually play like that as town.

Anyways, you guys can lynch me.

Here are my picks, and why:

Soren, TBS, Tery?

Now we'll have to factor in that the scum would have to be inexperienced. I'd also think Seik could be scum too now.

I also don't get the mason jailkeepers... +_+ First time I've ever seen those in a newb.
 

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Oh yeah. JTB can possibly be NOT town. Since Fynal is the tracker, why is there a need for two investigative roles? ... I don't know. Now that the masons came up, Jtb can possibly be town too. So this is null. : [

Also guys, really think hard about your lynch after me, K? Why is AA scum?
 

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Ran, you realise that lynching one more townie means you lose, right? There are no more protective roles, so far as I know.

Scumteam could possibly be JTB/Fynal + Seikend + Tery

Ranmaru says 'you guys can lynch me'.
If he was town, he would not want this, town would autolose.
If he was scum, he would not want this, obvious reasoning is obvious.

Only explanation I can think of is that he is scum who want to confuse us and make us have second thoughts

Vote: Ranmaru
 

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unvote

dont want the day to end too quickly
 

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Yep. I have no idea who scum can be. I was fine with being lynched earlier, but then Kuz had his fake change of heart. I thought Kuz was bussing X1, and then he switched! ... : [

If you guys have trouble finding scum, they might be lurking to victory.
 

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AA, what is your reasoning for Tery scum?
 

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TBS isn't scum and that's all I care about.
 

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Haha.

Ok, so if I flip town, would you reconsider TBS? Would you still go on AA?
 

Fynal

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Ran, you realise that lynching one more townie means you lose, right? There are no more protective roles, so far as I know.

Scumteam could possibly be JTB/Fynal + Seikend + Tery

Ranmaru says 'you guys can lynch me'.
If he was town, he would not want this, town would autolose.
If he was scum, he would not want this, obvious reasoning is obvious.

Only explanation I can think of is that he is scum who want to confuse us and make us have second thoughts

Vote: Ranmaru
regarding the bolded:

wat.
waaat.
so, yesterday (iirc?) you weren't so convinced ran is scum... now JTB/Fynal/Siek/Tery could be the scumteam, and you vote ran because his posts don't make sense?
waaat.

explain plox.
 

Fynal

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actually, aa gets at 2 points there i agree with.
1) if we lynch town, we basically lose.
2) ran's play is prty cleaned up toDay after his scumgasm yesterDay.
 

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Before I was null on Ran. Then Soup + Kuz flipped town and the chances of him being town plummeted, as Soup/Kuz/Seik scumteam was quite possible and now is not.

Simple statistics can be used now. Assuming there are 3 scum, as people seem to have been doing:

I am not scum.
TBS is most likely not scum. Kuz says so and I trust him now.
Soren is most likely not scum, that's my vibe and also what Kuz agreed, though he is not in the clear.
One of Fynal/JTB is probably scum. I doubt both are town. Fynal could be mafia tracker, as Kuz mentioned.
Seikend is possibly scum, though I still don't have reasoning for it, just throwing the possibility out there. He could be making up his role.
Tery is left. If there are three scum, It is in Fynal/JTB/Seikend/Ran. Ran is the scummiest. Fynal, you freaking ninja'd my exact scumteam thoughts ._.

If anything is to be done today, it will be questioning Tery and TBS. Ran is scum.

btw JTB, who is the girl in your avy? It's really irking me...
 

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Before I was null on Ran. Then Soup + Kuz flipped town and the chances of him being town plummeted, as Soup/Kuz/Seik scumteam was quite possible and now is not.

Simple statistics can be used now. Assuming there are 3 scum, as people seem to have been doing:

I am not scum.
TBS is most likely not scum. Kuz says so and I trust him now.
Soren is most likely not scum, that's my vibe and also what Kuz agreed, though he is not in the clear.
One of Fynal/JTB is probably scum. I doubt both are town. Fynal could be mafia tracker, as Kuz mentioned.
Seikend is possibly scum, though I still don't have reasoning for it, just throwing the possibility out there. He could be making up his role.
Tery is left. If there are three scum, It is in Fynal/JTB/Seikend/Ran. Ran is the scummiest. Fynal, you freaking ninja'd my exact scumteam thoughts ._.

If anything is to be done today, it will be questioning Tery and TBS. Ran is scum.

btw JTB, who is the girl in your avy? It's really irking me...
ew

why are we to be questioning TBS and not fynal/JTB/siek...? the people you claim are more likely than TBS to be scum...?

10ew
 

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In addition to Fynals quote, I was curious about needing to question Tery if he's not in your scumpicks.
 

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I sorta thought lack of content is something to address. A question mark is a frustrating thing to have, though I guess it's more urgent we get scum today.

I want people to look at whether lynching Ran today is actually the right thing to do. Hence: questioning.

@ Fynal, what is your rationale for pushing Ran votes so quickly? Do you believe he is 100% scum?
@ Soren, give me 3 points as to why Ran is scum. I want you to justify, not throw out empty comments like 'if you don't vote Ran I question you'. If you say 'lol ure scum i dun wanna respond' then I won't like it.
@ JTB, how strong is your Ran scumread? Harvest Moon <3

I believe Ran is the scummiest today, my vote stays where it is.

Also, @ Seikend, did your PM explicitly say 'nurse' or did it only say 'back-up'?
 

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I'm committed to a Ran lynch toDay, that's how strong my read is.
 

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what JTB said, letter for letter.

lets consider for a moment ran's overall play:

D1: ran advice dogs and fluffs a lot, gets called scum
D2: kuz flip-flops, pressure deflates, ran suddenly starts coasting
D3: kuz block's ran's NK. Ran starts scumming all over the thread, knowing he's gonna die, to confuse people.
D4: ran suddenly stops scumming it up like crazy, probably thinking with no kuz to lead newbs, he thinks he might have a chance at living.

the scummyness is overwhelming. we are lynching ran toDay. no deviation.
 

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To drive a new point of discussion, I want to ask town to create plans for toNights actions. As a reference:

Seikend is a jailer, he roleblocks/protects his target.
Fynal is a tracker, he is able to see where his target goes at night.
JTB is a reporter, he can see if a person is at home or not at home during the night.

If we can come up with one that is sure to out scum, then we should follow it.
 

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Here's a list of the players that will be alive toNight.

TheBlueSpot
JTB
Fynal
Seikend
Terywj
Soren
asianaussie

Keep in mind that we will be in mylo once again toMorrow unless we can somehow get a no kill.
 

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@AA My PM says Nurse specifically in the name.

@JTB

Let's just assume that all 3 town prs are town for now.

We literally cannot cover all bases.

You can confirm one VT was not out.
Fynal can confirm one VT was not out.

With that we're left with two townies and myself. If I jail one of them and they are VT, the other scum gets a free confirmed kill. If I jail one and they're scum then yeah. We've got ourselves some scum.

That gives us a decent chance of catching scum.

Buuuut, all this is assuming our prs are legit town.

Fynal is a legit tracker. Doesn't prove his alignment either way. His play has been pri towny though.
I'm not confirmed at all yet. The best I can do is confirm I have RB powers. That doesn't discount that I'm a scum RBer. A No Kill would semi-clear me.
I think you're town JTB, but you claiming last each time is bleh.

I think you're both town, but I don't know how both of you feel about the three of us.

Even if we spent the night faffing around trying to clear each other, the best we'd do is semi clears. Fynal could be scum tracker. I could be scum Rber. You could be scum visiting role? I don't know if scum reporter exists. Could be scum tracker.

I think a plan where we all use our prs on different claimed VTs would be best honestly.

Fine with Ran going but we got to figure NAs properly before I vote.
 

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i've decided i believe JTB's claim. Some facts i know:
-JTB visited kuz N2
-JTB said that kuz was not home N2
-kuz visited ran N2
-kuz neither died nor was roleblocked N2

the only explanation for scumJTB i see is that he's a scum reporter or tracker. A scum reporter just seems weird, as does 2 trackers. Its possible he's tracker and when he saw me claim he said OSHI--- and switched to reporter at the last minute. But thats more reaching than im comfortable with.



i continue to dislike the idea of a nurse (heals people with medicine) becoming a jailer (protects people by locking them up in a metal box).

The only way to prove siek's role though would be to have him jail (and roleblock) me or JTB, and then we could know in the morning if that person's action failed. If we plan that though, we leave siek very open to getting NK'd if he's actually town, and we only have one investigative PR (because siek jails one) looking at newbs. If he's town he basically dies in night, if he's scum he survives and we lynch him D5. ew.


JTB, if you have any good night action plan, i'd like to hear it. I've typed out 2 different ones so far and all of em have too many holes to be useful...
 

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Don't worry about posting them yet, I would like to see feedback from some of the other players that are not PRs.

Likewise, I have written some out as well, but there are holes too.
 
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