Newbie 19/Paper Mario: TTYD mafia // Game Over! Who won?

[#HBC | Dancer]

I will search for a replacement for Zen over the Night. However, since it's late in the game, if I'm not able to find a replacement for Zen within five days, then I will modkill his slot.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

BarDull replaces Ramen King effective immediately.

Anomandaris_Rake (Marilyn, Shadow Siren) has been killed during the Night!

Vote Count

2. Vinyl.
3. Ori_bro
4. Orboknown
8.Lolilovesrain
10. BarDull
13. JTB

Not voting: Vinyl., Ori_bro, Orboknown, Lolilovesrain, BarDull, JTB

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 5 starts! Deadline has been set to 07/23/12 at 11:59PM EST.

 

[Ori_bro]

Kinda had a feeling Rake was a goon

Also, during the night I tattles on JTB ad he is "not mafia"

Everyone alive out with your thoughts on the happenings of last night. Do you feel its strange that the Mafia didn't kill me, the claimed cop? Also With Rake as the NK, who do you feel is the remaining Mafia?

 

[Orboknown]

more bardull time.

Rake did a good job, but ori what made you think he was a goon?
JTB, is zen's slot still scum now that ben is confirmed town?

Ori, I figured rake or I would be NK'd after you died, so I'm puzzled why the cop didn't die.

 

[Orboknown]

the claimed cop

why did you phrase it this way, like you aren't the cop?

 

[Orboknown]

work today, gonna blaze the thread on monday in all likelyhood.

 

[Orboknown]

4 town, one red scum, one yellow goon.
worst case, lynch a townie.
3 town, one red, one yellow going into night.
If town NK'd,
2 town, one scum of each color.
mislynch equals game over due to NK.
If yellow NK'd
3 town, one red/
if we lynch yellow
4 town, one red.
town dies in the night, 3 town one red. mislynch ends game due to NK.
if we hit red scum with the lynch, we have 4 town one yellow. no NK, we have three mislynches.
anyone wanna make sure I'm not forgetting anything?

 

[Ori_bro]

You know, idk why i phrased it as claimed cop lololol. Probably should have woken up a bit more before posting.

Also, ill look at my notes later today. Its hot outside, and the lake is calling me. I'll be back on later to post more.

From what i read of the big post Orbo, it looked good to me.

 

[BarDulL]

Grawr. Will hit this later. Don't know anything and I haven't read my role PM yet.

 

[Orboknown]

why the hell not bardull?(wrt role pm)

 

[BarDulL]

^Was that an attempt at scum hunting?

 

[Orboknown]

mostly just curious.

 

[Vinylic.]

So, are we go for a JTB wagon or start a new suspicion point on someone else? Because I think this Ori lynch thing you said is most likely not really, eh, wise.

 

[Ori_bro]

My lynch would be the death of the town lol. Why kill the cop when we need to look at those who havent been investigated by me.

 

[Vinylic.]

And it will be better to find the red scum at this point or we'll really be at the verge of losing,

 

[Ori_bro]

I'll be giving my updated reads list later tonight.

 

[LoliLovesRain]

My lynch would be the death of the town lol. Why kill the cop when we need to look at those who havent been investigated by me.

Everyone who were investigated by you are dead except JTB now xD

Orbo, me, vinyl., bardull/ramen are the only ones that haven't been investigated yet. That basically means we shouldn't lynch JTB since he's not red scum at all.

There's always Vinyl./Ramen(Bardull) based off of Kary.

 

[BarDulL]

Man, 37 pages is going to be extremely tedious to read through. -_________________-

I'm not getting to this until toMorrow. If someone can recap basic events/things that happened so that I can chime in, that would be great. Otherwise, I won't be posting cases or anything of the sort until later.

 

[BarDulL]

I'm not getting to this until tomorrow.*

 

[BarDulL]

So, to my understanding JTB is confirmed not red mafia. Cool beans. So there's still the chance that he's a yellow. Ori is also super duper confirmed Town, so unless someone wants to counter claim Cop, Ori is for-sure living. I'm not sure why the red mafia didn't kill him.

Note: if someone is the REAL cop, and Ori is fake, you NEED to claim. But otherwise, it's safe to assume Ori is legitimate and we can move on.

Instead of super rereading this entire dayphase which would take a decade, I'd like everyone to give rationale for whom they believe to be scum and why.

 

[BarDulL]

Also, who do people think is the most likely to be paired with J/Rake for Scumyellow?

 

[BarDulL]

mostly just curious.

~_O

Why does this feel like a terrible backpedal? Either way, me saying "I haven't read my role PM yet" means absolutely nothing (scum sided or town sided), so I'm particularly curious as to what you hoped to gain from asking me that question.

 

[Orboknown]

because when I get a notification, I check it before doing anything else. Was wondering why you wouldn't read the role pm before posting, but It isn't a big deal.

 

[Orboknown]

Vinyl, Loli, Ori, JTB, you guys need to actually DO something today. get reads out, scum picks, etc.

 

[LoliLovesRain]

Not sure who I want to vote for exactly yet

Vinyl. - Honestly Kary was really adamant about voting him and I'm going to listen to Kary this time....yeh...a little late cuz he's dead...but w.e.

Hipster/Ramen/Bardull - I don't even know cuz hipster seemed scum at first then ramen seemed town and bardull is just null since he just came in...sooo i dunno.

JTB - Confirmed not lynching. I also felt like homeslice was town and i'm staying with that one.

Ori - Confirmed cop not lynching.

Orbo - I have nothing for you. Nothing at all...

FOS: Vinyl.

 

[Ori_bro]

Gotta go do some yard work. I'll give full reads list and a possible plan of action in a few hours.

 

[Orboknown]

loli how have I left no impression on you?

 

[LoliLovesRain]

Well...nothing seems townie about you but you didn't seem like scum either. All I thought was you seemed kind of mean....sorry...

 

[Orboknown]

Nothing I've done the past dayphase seemed townie to you? PLease explain that to me.

 

[LoliLovesRain]

It just didn't. Like that's all and that's it. All I'm saying is that I find you as null at the moment.

 

[Orboknown]

ok. Who are you looking to push today?

 

[LoliLovesRain]

Vinyl. / Hipramendull

 

[Orboknown]

What about them in particular seems scummy to you?

 

[BarDulL]

Just for clarity, JTB is not outside of being lynched toDay. It's still possible that he's a yellow scum. Considering how Rake and J didn't say much about the JTB slot, I wouldn't throw out the possibility of JTB yellowscum just yet.

 

[BarDulL]

Loli, if you can go into more detail as to why you feel the way you feel, that would be stellar. Right now, you're sort of just saying "X person is null," or "X person is scum," but you're not explaining how you're coming to those conclusions.

 

[Vinylic.]

Current Reads:

Ori_bro - He's cop. Nothing to gain suspicion at all from him.

Orboknown - I'm not sure if you confirmed yet. I'll have to look back to see if you did. TownNull for now.

lolilovesrain - Since bardull ask who my yellow/red scumpicks are, it would probably be you. Probably though. I'll be looking onto you.

Bardull - You're the second replacement behind ramen and hipster. You're null since you have just started. Still recommended to at least skim and read through all or some of the past pages.

 

[Vinylic.]

Well...nothing seems townie about you but you didn't seem like scum either. All I thought was you seemed kind of mean....sorry...

You should consider looking back as well, because he has done something that could consider him town or scum. Not to mention the inactivity he has made from the past days. He says he's busy, and I know that. But aren't we all?

Just saiyan.

 

[Vinylic.]

So someone asks you that if you're town, you're going to say "Yes, I'm town"?
Reason why I wouldn't answer that is because I'm not highly confident to answer such a question when kary about, I say, 4 times without even giving the slightest pressuring at first?

Is there any meaning to say "I'm town" anyways? Think about it.
If you said yes, you could probably end up in suspicion or think he's town.
If you don't say anything, you could probably end up in suspicion or think he is town.

so what of it? what's the point, exactly?

You should respond to this orbo, because I really expected that you would, but now that changes to "I thought" or "I was supposed to expect you respond".

 

[Orboknown]

missed this somehow. What do you mean "confirmed"?

So someone asks you that if you're town, you're going to say "Yes, I'm town"?
Reason why I wouldn't answer that is because I'm not highly confident to answer such a question when kary about, I say, 4 times without even giving the slightest pressuring at first?

Is there any meaning to say "I'm town" anyways? Think about it.
If you said yes, you could probably end up in suspicion or think he's town.
If you don't say anything, you could probably end up in suspicion or think he is town.

so what of it? what's the point, exactly?

Why aren't you comfortable saying "I'm town" when that is what everyone wants to be seen as?
Yes, i expect everyone to answer that.

 

[Vinylic.]

What do you mean "confirmed"?

I meant to say if you claimed your role.

Why aren't you comfortable saying "I'm town" when that is what everyone wants to be seen as?

Everyone wants to be seen as town, but they also consider keeping that as a low profile for the moment being until it is right. Same with speacial roles such as cop.
And besides that, if everyone want to be seen as town then they have to be town or look town, not claim town as it is pointless.

To gain some more from it, it could make someone trust you a tad bit, but it's not enough.