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So if everyone here had a choice on one stage from the franchises listed, which one would you choose and why?

Sin and Punishment
Xenoblade
Golden Sun
Advance Wars/Nintendo Wars
Custom Robo
 

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So if everyone here had a choice on one stage from the franchises listed, which one would you choose and why?

Sin and Punishment
Xenoblade
Golden Sun
Advance Wars/Nintendo Wars
Custom Robo
Well, I would choose Golden Sun, of course. It is the only game series I have played out of that list. I still say Belinsk from Dark Dawn should be a stage. We fight on the rooftops of the buildings, especially the opera house. Crystallux breaks out through the roof of the opera house and attacks everyone. Meanwhile, characters and items can fall into the new hole that Crystallux made. After a couple minutes, the roof will repair itself and it repeats over. It would be like a cross between Saffron City (fighting on rooftops of buildings) and Bridge of Eldin (part of the stage breaks and repairs itself) and Spear Pillar (a legendary creature attacks everyone from the background).
 

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True, but still given the take I can assure you that he won't be too hesistant to at least include and introduce one Kid Icarus rep. In some way or form in SSB4, hopefully though he'll include one as a playable character.
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Yeah one is perfectly reasonable to assume but two additional reps would be an overkill considering how small the franchise is.
 

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Yes I'm well aware of that, I stated that because Sakurai is working on the Kid Icarus project and knowing him, he most likely include two new reps to further promote his latest creation and what better way than to do it in the upcoming SSB4.

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Palutena and Medusa. They would complete the Kid Icarus series. They are like the Peach/Zelda and Bowser/Ganon of the Kid Icarus series. You cannot have one without the other. It makes sense to add Mario/Luigi at the same time in SSB 64, add Peach/Bowser and Zelda/Ganon at the same time in Melee, and add Meta Knight/King Dedede, and the three Pokemon starters at the same time in Brawl. It makes sense to add both Palutena/Medusa at the same time in SSB4. And besides, Palutena and Medusa aren't even Sakurai's creations... so he would probably be humble and not add Magnus nor Gaol in SSB4.
 

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Yeah one is perfectly reasonable to assume but two additional reps would be an overkill considering how small the franchise is.
And yet people want a third character for the Mother series. :awesome:
 

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Why are so many people asking for Medusa....? Has everyone already forgotten one of Sakurai's rules for choosing a character? They have to have originated from a video game..... Medusa is based in Greek mythology. :troll:
 

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So if everyone here had a choice on one stage from the franchises listed, which one would you choose and why?

Sin and Punishment
Xenoblade
Golden Sun
Advance Wars/Nintendo Wars
Custom Robo
Forgot to list my choice. I'd probably choose a Custom Robo stage. I have waited so long for some kind of techno/internet stage to fight in. It is about time Sakurai gave it to me!
 

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So if everyone here had a choice on one stage from the franchises listed, which one would you choose and why?

Sin and Punishment
Xenoblade
Golden Sun
Advance Wars/Nintendo Wars
Custom Robo
Well after discovering my new found love for Ray MkI, I'd say Custom Robo definetly takes the cake. I imagine it would be futuristic of sorts?

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Sin & Punishment would likely have a futuristic stage...

The same goes for a Mega Man stage.
 

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If she was playable id like her to be her own rather being Peach. Rosalina has no umbrrealla as she lives in space but she is fom the blue planet.

She was not from super mario bros.2 so she can't have vegetable's and she can't have sport's equipment cose shes not been in any of Mario sport's games that i no of.So i'd like to realy no how she could be used on Peach as a costume when none of Peache's move's could go with her?
Daisy never really used much of Peach's attacks as well, and still she made it as Peach's alternate costume. The costumes just reference the characters that strongly resemble the playable one.
 

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Why are so many people asking for Medusa....? Has everyone already forgotten one of Sakurai's rules for choosing a character? They have to have originated from a video game..... Medusa is based in Greek mythology. :troll:
So what?!!

The same thing can be said about Icarus, he didn't originate in video games and yet... he's in Brawl, that is totally irrevalent.

The point is Medusa from Kid Icarus has been in Nintendo since it's early days, this would heavily influence Sakurai in considering her for SBB4, and since Medusa already has a history with Nintendo I don't see why not.

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So if everyone here had a choice on one stage from the franchises listed, which one would you choose and why?

Sin and Punishment
Xenoblade
Golden Sun
Advance Wars/Nintendo Wars
Custom Robo
I pick Sin & Punishment, mainly because it's probably the stage where we are the most likely to gain a playable character from. It's also the only franchise where I have played a game from.
 

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So what?!!

The same thing can be said about Icarus, he didn't originate in video games and yet... he's in Brawl, that is totally irrevalent.

The point is Medusa from Kid Icarus has been in Nintendo since it's early days, this would heavily influence Sakurai in considering her for SBB4, and since Medusa already has a history with Nintendo I don't see why not.

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Way to miss the obvious troll face.
 
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So what?!!

The same thing can be said about Icarus, he didn't originate in video games and yet... he's in Brawl, that is totally irrevalent.

The point is Medusa from Kid Icarus has been in Nintendo since it's early days, this would heavily influence Sakurai in considering her for SBB4, and since Medusa already has a history with Nintendo I don't see why not.
I'm pretty sure that the Pit/Medusa/Palutena of Nintendo are different from Greek Mythology. If they weren't, there would be no reference to the series in the Super Smash Bros. series, nor would we see Kid Icarus on the Virtual Console.

Otherwise, anime/comic book/TV shows characters could get in as well. Which we all know they can't.
 

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Why are so many people asking for Medusa....? Has everyone already forgotten one of Sakurai's rules for choosing a character? They have to have originated from a video game..... Medusa is based in Greek mythology. :troll:
Which is probably why he created Magnus and Dark Lord Gaol.

I saw someone mention a Toon Zelda/Darknut (Phantom) combo. It'd make more sense to change Toon Link into a transformational character:

Toon Link/Phantom Zelda.

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However, by the time SSB4 debuts, the Toon Zelda subseries may be over. Seeing as how the latest two Zelda games are OoT3D and Skyward Sword, the Toon series may have concluded with Spirit Tracks. As of right now, I'm not entirely sure Toon Link will even return. Brawl came out between the releases of Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks, so Toon Link was extremely relevant. Now he doesn't seem to be. Hell, who's to say we'll even see the return of a second Link? It would be neat to see both Skyward Sword Link and the Hero of Time as playable characters, though such odds are terribly slim. I think we'll see at least one more Zelda game on the 3DS before SSB4 debuts, so that'll probably be the deciding factor as to who the second Link is.
 

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I'd like to see Young Link return in the style of OoT 3DS, using items that only Young Link can use in OoT and MM and/or items usable by both that Link doesn't already use

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I'm pretty sure that the Pit/Medusa/Palutena of Nintendo are different from Greek Mythology. If they weren't, there would be no reference to the series in the Super Smash Bros. series, nor would we see Kid Icarus on the Virtual Console.

Otherwise, anime/comic book/TV shows characters could get in as well. Which we all know they can't.
Exactly, Medusa being originating from Greek Mythology has nothing to do with Kid Icarus reps getting into SSB4.

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However, by the time SSB4 debuts, the Toon Zelda subseries may be over. Seeing as how the latest two Zelda games are OoT3D and Skyward Sword, the Toon series may have concluded with Spirit Tracks. As of right now, I'm not entirely sure Toon Link will even return. Brawl came out between the releases of Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks, so Toon Link was extremely relevant. Now he doesn't seem to be. Hell, who's to say we'll even see the return of a second Link? It would be neat to see both Skyward Sword Link and the Hero of Time as playable characters, though such odds are terribly slim. I think we'll see at least one more Zelda game on the 3DS before SSB4 debuts, so that'll probably be the deciding factor as to who the second Link is.
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks came out on December, 2009. I believe that Toon Link or Young Link will be relevant enough to be playable in SSB4 and I can see the Toon series continuing onto the 3DS, so it's kind of premature to assume that the series is irrelevant yet.

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Exactly, Medusa being originating from Greek Mythology has nothing to do with Kid Icarus reps getting into SSB4.
I'm not talking about the name. What I was trying to say is that Medusa/Palutena/Pit from Nintendo are Nintendo's characters, not the Greek Mythology character. There is a difference between the two.

If they were the Greek Mythology characters, we would not see them in Smash in any shape or form. What makes characters from Greek Mythology different from comic book, anime, TV Shows, and books? If Greek Mythology characters can get in, so can Goku, Spider-Man, James Bond, Harry Potter, and Kevin McCallister. None of the characters stand any chance of getting in.
 

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Not the best picture in the world but this should give everyone an idea of what a Custom Robo stage would look like.

Video: http://youtu.be/lZGcC3oNoRo



Aesthetically it would share a design much like what is presented in the above media. Add platforms, a little more wireframe, all while retaining the neon tech design. The platforms would be the surface of the two walls, in below them would give you access to the floor of the arena. Giving you two levels to fight on. When on the ground the walls will pose as an obstacle. Beyond the walls the remainder of the floor leads into the "KO boundary". The background would have many different "cyber" animations that one would expect of an internet based stage. More distinctly you would be able to view the "Custom Robo cannon" in the background swiveling and firing Custom Robo characters into the background. Simple design conveying the arena theme.

An example: _|-|__|-|_

Name: Cyber Holosseum
Icon: Custom Robo cube

Custom Robo 64 - Custom Battle
Custom Robo V2 - Custom Battle 2
Custom Robo V2 - Capsule Holesseum
Custom Robo V2 - Battle #2
Custom Robo GX - Regular Battle
Custom Robo: Battle Revolution - Heaven
Custom Robo: Battle Revolution - Frozen Game
Custom Robo Arena - Basic Battle
Sin and Punishment - Agave
Sin and Punishment: Star Successor - System Menu
Advance Wars: Days of Ruin - Proud Soldier
Chosoju Mecha MG - Marionation Gear (Brawl)
Megaman Battle Network 3 - Great Battlers (Of course assuming Megaman is in the game)
 

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I'm not talking about the name. What I was trying to say is that Medusa/Palutena/Pit from Nintendo are Nintendo's characters, not the Greek Mythology character. There is a difference between the two.

If they were the Greek Mythology characters, we would not see them in Smash in any shape or form. What makes characters from Greek Mythology different from comic book, anime, TV Shows, and books? If Greek Mythology characters can get in, so can Goku, Spider-Man, James Bond, Harry Potter, and Kevin McCallister.
Uh.....

I guess you misunderstood what I was saying.

I never said that the Kid Icarus series was directly related to Greek Mythology, I was merely implying that origination has nothing to do with a characters chances, it only matters if they are a part of a nintendo franchise, in this case, Kid Icarus series which again is a Nintendo franchise.

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The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks came out on December, 2009. I believe that Toon Link or Young Link will be relevant enough to be playable in SSB4 and I can see the Toon series continuing onto the 3DS, so it's kind of premature to assume that the series is irrelevant yet.
Seeing as how they have a new, robust "Zelda 64" engine for the 3DS, I don't think we'll see Toon LoZ games like we have before. The top-down style of PH and ST is perhaps forever gone (good). It'd make more sense for them to use the engine to remake MM and go from there. Perhaps a sequel to MM, completing the Hero of Time trilogy? Ahhh that'd be ideal.
 
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I was merely implying that origination has nothing to do with a characters chances or not as long as they have Nintendo history which in this case, Kid Icarus series which again is a Nintendo franchise.
Then why is a requirement set by Sakurai that characters must originate from video games?
 

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Chances are very poor. There isn't enough support for other Namco Bandai characters and Pacman will probably not get in.
Speak for yourself.

Cassandra, Ivy, NIghtmare FTW.
So if everyone here had a choice on one stage from the franchises listed, which one would you choose and why?

Sin and Punishment
Xenoblade
Golden Sun
Advance Wars/Nintendo Wars
Custom Robo
Xenoblade looks awesome. I choose them. Though I don't know much about it. I suppose if I had to pick another it would be between advanced wars and Custom Robo. Even though Golden Sun is pretty popular.


Oh, and HE WAS TROLLING! Stop taking it seriously it's embarassing
 

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Toon Link does stop any confusions between the adult Link and the child Link, since Toon Link is clearly a different person, as shown in Brawl.
 

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Not the best picture in the world but this should give everyone an idea of what a Custom Robo stage would look like.

Video: http://youtu.be/lZGcC3oNoRo


It'd look just like that except add platforms, a little more wireframe and some neon colors. With your techish flashes and design. Here would be the tracks for the stage.

Name: Cyber Holloseum
Icon: Custom Robo cube

Custom Robo 64 - Custom Battle
Custom Robo 64 - Custom Battle 2
Custom Robo: Battle Revolution - Heaven
Custom Robo: Battle Revolution - Frozen Game
Custom Robo Arena - Basic Battle
Sin and Punishment - Agave
Sin and Punishment: Star Successor - System Menu
Advance Wars: Days of Ruin - Proud Soldier
Megaman Battle Network 3 - Great Battlers (Of course assuming Megaman is in the game)
This reminds me of Mega Man Battle Network, hopefully if Megaman makes it in we'll only see a stage related to the series, not Megaman X himself.

I like that Sin& Punishment theme, totally goes with it, it's the first time I've ever even taken a look into the series.

Seriously though, Ray MkI is like Megaman's lost cousin or something.

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Then why is a requirement set by Sakurai that characters must originate from video games?


To be fair, he might have already broken that rule (technically). Lucario's movie came out July 16, 2005 (in Japan) while D&P didn't come out until September 28, 2006 (in Japan). That said, this is a technicality- he DID originate and was designed for the video game, it's just that they put him in the movie as a means of advertising the upcoming game.
 

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Gamefaqs is bugging me, since people love to make up facts to support their arguments. Examples:

1)Victini is more popular than Zoroark!
Fact: Zoroark placed higher on a recent Japanese popularity poll. By one placement, but people act like Japan hates Zoroark and loves Victini. Meanwhile, Zoroark has other things going for him such as being of a similar archtype as Mewtwo/Lucario and being the first revealed Pokemon for Gen 5.

2) Tingle is so popular in Japan!
Fact: Even his own games are mediocre sellers. Its really a niche series.

3) Medusa is the only likely Kid Icarus rep!
Fact: This is her only appearance to date. Lets see somebody make a playable character out of that. Truth is, we won't know who's likely until Uprising comes out. Then we'll be able to see who has a prominent role and who doesn't. You can be sure Sakurai will pick the second KI rep accordingly since it is his game after all.

Maybe I should make a Gamefaqs account and post this.
 

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So what?!!

The same thing can be said about Icarus, he didn't originate in video games and yet... he's in Brawl, that is totally irrevalent.

The point is Medusa from Kid Icarus has been in Nintendo since it's early days, this would heavily influence Sakurai in considering her for SBB4, and since Medusa already has a history with Nintendo I don't see why not.

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Pit is not Icarus. :embarrass:
 

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Another interesting thing to note is that a lot of items- most notably the Lightsaber "Beam Sword" and the proximity mine "motion-sensor bomb" originate more from movies than games...

Just pointing out the technicalities...
 

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Gamefaqs is bugging me, since people love to make up facts to support their arguments. Examples:

1)Victini is more popular than Zoroark!
Fact: Zoroark placed higher on a recent Japanese popularity poll. By one placement, but people act like Japan hates Zoroark and loves Victini. Meanwhile, Zoroark has other things going for him such as being of a similar archtype as Mewtwo/Lucario and being the first revealed Pokemon for Gen 5.

2) Tingle is so popular in Japan!
Fact: Even his own games are mediocre sellers. Its really a niche series.

3) Medusa is the only likely Kid Icarus rep!
Fact: This is her only appearance to date. Lets see somebody make a playable character out of that. Truth is, we won't know who's likely until Uprising comes out. Then we'll be able to see who has a prominent role and who doesn't. You can be sure Sakurai will pick the second KI rep accordingly since it is his game after all.

Maybe I should make a Gamefaqs account and post this.
and to adress your points personally :

1) popularity MAY be a factor but its certainly not the only one to decide the appearance of a character in smash over another one

2) same as 1)

3) having only one appearance in a game does not suddenly make a character less likely to be a rep , Uprising or not
 
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