New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Deleted member]

Ganondorf Remix with new moveset is up.

http://www.smashboards.com/news/blogs/165266/4535/ganondorf-remix-new-character-concept-for-ssb4

- Ganondorf should be slightly faster. He's already slow enough in Brawl, lets not make him even slower.

- Ganondorf's Forward B isn't really unique at all and sounds like a very boring special. Try switching it with something better.

- Beast Ganon is fine as it is in Brawl.

 

[Deleted member]

D:

Wow, never thought PCAM would be dropped. It really saddens me. Seriously. The idea of you guysw joining together to push for character inclusion was great.

If I had my way, I would definitely continue this, but people simply have lost interest in PCAM. A reboot under a different name could be done and all, but I don't think that's going to happen.

 

[Barbasol]

Ganondorf Remix with new moveset is up.

http://www.smashboards.com/news/blogs/165266/4535/ganondorf-remix-new-character-concept-for-ssb4

I'm sorry but I've noticed this a lot in your writing.

Foreword isn't what you mean, you mean to use Forward, as in ahead. Foreword is like the section in a book...

Normally I wouldn't feel the need to correct anyone... but it's a fairly basic word.

 

[soviet prince]

what do we smash elitist do when things look grim....................WE QUIT

 

[Deleted member]

what do we smash elitist do when things look grim....................WE QUIT

It isn't just because things look bad, its also because I'm starting to have my doubts about PCAM doing anything, with people dropping out and all, plus real life stuff coming up.

 

[Opossum]

Maybe you could limit the numbers of PCAM to groups who's leaders actively help out? I don't know.

 

[Starphoenix]

Speaking of our groups, I updated mine since I found out Google is beginning to traffic some readers in due to my Kirby Hat.

http://slimeandchocobo.blogspot.com/

 

[Fobmescs]

Does Nintendo Wii U support 6 players?

 

[y.toonlink]

Yay I learned how make hidden messages! :D Ahem

[collapse=@Omega]

Hmm...I do agree with your concept of a Melee Online HD thing, as a matter of fact someone suggested a petition for it LoL., but for the most part I believe we will ultimetly be getting a Wii-U downloadable version of Melee, which will probably be a straight port from GNC.

As for your idea, do you mean spin-offs as in a character should have it's own game?

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But if it was HD, online and DLC, that would mean no updated graphics right? As with MvC2 on PSN (if anyone knows that too)?
All that with hopes of GC features on the Wii U, or a new GC controller just for Smash :D

For the spin offs, like Mario vs Pokemon or LoZ vs Fire Emblem. OR all four in one. It's just that those four games seem to have the most character hopefuls, when there are already a good amount of spots to represent their franchise. If a spin off like this actutally was released, I would think just Mario, Pokemon and LoZ.

Also sorry for the late reply.

[collapse=@PsychoIncarnate]

You know what would be funny? If Sakurai did a poll, and the votes were so torn between Isaac and Matthew that it appeared only a few people wanted them in the game. So they end up as assist trophies

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lol That'd be sad for their die hard fans. What's the difference between the two tho? Because I have a good feeling Isaac has a better chance since he was an AT already.

[collapse=@Starphoenix]

My purpose was to list some factual information about Mewtwo's character as that is what was in discussion at that time.

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So it's settled that Mewtwo is the "villain" rep for Pokemon? I think it'd be nice to see him in the armor as a special costume

As for the villain talk earlier, anti heroes are acceptable. I didn't mean strictly evil, but just the antagonist figure. With that said I never thought of Metaknight as one, more just of a neutral alignment.

[collapse=@Ninka]

Yeah it's probably more likely that isa is getting in due to the fact that Sin and punishment 2 just recently came out...
He'd also be able to do more stuff like shoot a charge shot and hover...
however who knows what will happen. It'd just be sick to have a SaP character get in to ssb4 as a playable character.

And yeah I'd rather Issac get in as well but Matthew is cool too.

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If SSB4 was fast paced enough, Saki or Isa (maybe costume cameo?) would soooo fun to play.

 

[Starphoenix]

Does Nintendo Wii U support 6 players?

At this time nobody knows. It is unlikely that is the case as even with the Wii U tablet the E3 Tech demo games only allowed 4 players maximum (meaning three people used Wiimotes whil one utilized the UTablet).

So it's settled that Mewtwo is the "villain" rep for Pokemon? I think it'd be nice to see him in the armor as a special costume

Essentially yes. The games label him as the most savage, heartless, and blood thirsty Pokémon. While shallow, that would pass as a "villain".

For those not aware of what I posted and too lazy to go back and re-read. Here:

Crystal:A vicious psychic Pokémon created by genetic engineering. its cold, glowing eyes strike fear into its enemy.

Ruby/Sapphire: MEWTWO is a POKéMON that was created by genetic manipulation. However, even though the scientific power of humans created this POKéMON's body, they failed to endow MEWTWO with a compassionate heart.

Emerald: A POKéMON that was created by genetic manipulation. However, even though the scientific power of humans made its body, they failed to give it a warm heart.

Fire Red: A POKéMON whose genetic code was repeatedly recombined for research. It turned vicious as a result.

Leaf Green: It was created by a scientist after years of horrific gene-splicing and DNA-engineering experiments.

Diamond/Pearl/Platinum/Black/White: A Pokémon created by recombining MEW's genes. It's said to have the most savage heart among Pokémon.

HeartGold: Because its battle abilities were raised to the ultimate level, it thinks only of defeating its foes.

SoulSilver: It usually remains motionless to conserve energy, so that it may unleash its full power in battle.

Supe Smash Bros. Melee: A genetically created Pokémon, Mewtwo is the result of many long years of research by a solitary scientist. Although Mewtwo was cloned from the genes of the legendary Pokémon Mew, its size and character are far different than its ancestor. Its battle abilities have been radically heightened, making it ruthless.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl: A Genetic Pokémon. This legendary Pokémon was based on a recombination of Mew's DNA, created by a scientist after years of research. However, Mewtwo greatly differs from Mew in both size and personality and it is said to have the most twisted and savage heart among all Pokemon. Mewtwo has incredibly high combat abilities and uses Psychic- type attacks.

Coincedentally, he reminds me a lot of this character (though Mewtwo preceeded him).

 

[y.toonlink]

@Starphoenix
I think the word villain used like earlier sounds too limited. "Antagonist" is more fitting to what I was asking for in a list

Is that a BW Pokemon? Im not familiar with all of them yet. He looks like he'd end up as a Pokeball tho

 

[Oasis_S]

While I agree he's the only plausible villain for Pokemon, what kind of role would Mewtwo have in a supposed story mode? He doesn't seem the type to join up with Bowser and Ganondorf. ...Oh goodness, but if he did, then it's event match 51 all over again. Eff.

Yeah, y.toonlink, that's Victini.

 

[y.toonlink]

@Oasis

Victini? I actually know who that is

That sounds like something that would appear in Adventure Mode! And if Mewtwo came back stronger, then the match would be impossible hahaha

 

[Starphoenix]

Is that a BW Pokemon? Im not familiar with all of them yet. He looks like he'd end up as a Pokeball tho

Umm that is Bass.EXE... From Megaman Battle Network...

I was just pointing out that Bass.EXE and Mewtwo are very similar. But yes Event 51 clearly denotes that Mewtwo is considered a villain in the Smash universe.

The three characters fought in this match [Event 51] have at least one attack that wields darkness, possibly representing evil.

All three characters are villains from highly represented franchises; Giga Bowser from the Mario franchise, Ganondorf from the Zelda franchise, and Mewtwo from the Pokémon franchise (though it is debatable if Mewtwo is a villain or not).

 

[y.toonlink]

oh poop lololol

we were talking about Mewtwo so i thought he was a pokemon

I dont remember Bass from that series though. Its been a while since i've seen anything from it at all

 

[Oasis_S]

Perhaps if the story mode is as dynamic as I hope it will be... The creation of Mewtwo is something you have to stop. As though he's some kind of bio-weapon. (lololmetroid) If you fail to stop the creation, THEN TOUGH LUCK. You'll have to continue dealing with him throughout the story.

 

[Kantrip]

Is that a BW Pokemon? Im not familiar with all of them yet. He looks like he'd end up as a Pokeball tho

I'm sorry, I couldn't help but laugh. When people mistake Mega Man characters for Pokemon you know there are too many of them.

 

[PersonallyIPreferDair]

You can't really say that Mewtwo is a villain in the smash world specifically because of event 51. The description of event 51 says: Giga Bowser, Mewtwo and Ganondorf unite!

Nowhere does it say that Mewtwo is a villain. They could just be uniting to take down you, the player.

@CrimsonFeint: I could have sworn Bisharp was a Megaman character when I first saw it.

http:///www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/625.shtml

 

[y.toonlink]

I'm sorry, I couldn't help but laugh. When people mistake Mega Man characters for Pokemon you know there are too many of them.

Exaaaactly

@PersonallyIPreferDair

Which is why I suggested that instead of the use of the word "villain", use "antagonist", which is more fitting for Mewtwo, Dedede, Goroh, etc.

Perhaps if the story mode is as dynamic as I hope it will be... The creation of Mewtwo is something you have to stop. As though he's some kind of bio-weapon. (lololmetroid) If you fail to stop the creation, THEN TOUGH LUCK. You'll have to continue dealing with him throughout the story.

Contained like Pika in Brawl! And if the story were some sort of sequel then they would try to use Mewtwo like they did with Pika! Maybe thats where he was all along :D

 

[MechaWave]

At this time nobody knows. It is unlikely that is the case as even with the Wii U tablet the E3 Tech demo games only allowed 4 players maximum (meaning three people used Wiimotes whil one utilized the UTablet).

5 players: 4 Wii Remotes and 1 Wii U tablet. Reggie Fils-Aime confirmed it is possible to play with 2 Wii U tablets plus the 4 Wii Remotes. This means it is 6 players. It all depends on if the developer feels if 6 players could work for the game, and it does for Smash Bros. *Please Sakurai, 6 players!*

Chase Mii is a 5 player game, for proof.

 

[Kantrip]

You can't really say that Mewtwo is a villain in the smash world specifically because of event 51. The description of event 51 says: Giga Bowser, Mewtwo and Ganondorf unite!

Nowhere does it say that Mewtwo is a villain. They could just be uniting to take down you, the player.

@CrimsonFeint: I could have sworn Bisharp was a Megaman character when I first saw it.

http:///www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/625.shtml

Mewtwo is still an antagonist, for opposing the player in that event. Perhaps not villainous in intent, though I've always seen him as an anti-hero (with a neutral cause carried out in an evil way). This tips him in an evil direction.

Also, wow you're right about Bisharp. This series... where is it going?

 

[PersonallyIPreferDair]

Also, wow you're right about Bisharp. This series... where is it going?

Well, I've heard good stuff about the games, but considering where the pokemon design is going, well I'd go with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC3Ihck76_0.

5 players: 4 Wii Remotes and 1 Wii U tablet. Reggie Fils-Aime confirmed it is possible to play with 2 Wii U tablets plus the 4 Wii Remotes. This means it is 6 playerse. It all depends on if the developer feels if 6 players could work for the game, and it does for Smash Bros. *Please Sakurai, 6 players!*

-Imagines 6 Captains Falcons on Final Destination with only Smash Balls on-
PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN SAKURAI

 

[Kantrip]

Well, I've heard good stuff about the games, but considering where the pokemon design is going, well I'd go with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC3Ihck76_0.


-Imagines 6 Captains Falcons on Final Destination with only Smash Balls on-
PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN SAKURAI

And yet.... not a single swordfish pokemon.

 

[PersonallyIPreferDair]

And yet.... not a single swordfish pokemon.

If they did that they'd probably put it with Clamperl's evolutionary chain, sort of like Tyrouge.
It'd be so awesome if they revived dive as an HM or at least a TM for exploring unnecessary places :D.

 

[Kantrip]

If they did that they'd probably put it with Clamperl's evolutionary chain, sort of like Tyrouge.
It'd be so awesome if they revived dive as an HM or at least a TM for exploring unnecessary places :D.

Yeah, probably. A Steel/Water type with an actual sword on its face would be so sick though!

Also, they did use Dive in Black and White. o.O

 

[OmegaXXII]

Hey, that's a good idea about a Pokemon.

 

[PersonallyIPreferDair]

Yeah, probably. A Steel/Water type with an actual sword on its face would be so sick though!

Also, they did use Dive in Black and White. o.O

Whoops, got mixed up with 4th gen >.<

 

[OmegaXXII]

Yay I learned how make hidden messages! :D Ahem

[collapse=@Omega][/collapse]

But if it was HD, online and DLC, that would mean no updated graphics right? As with MvC2 on PSN (if anyone knows that too)?
All that with hopes of GC features on the Wii U, or a new GC controller just for Smash :D

For the spin offs, like Mario vs Pokemon or LoZ vs Fire Emblem. OR all four in one. It's just that those four games seem to have the most character hopefuls, when there are already a good amount of spots to represent their franchise. If a spin off like this actutally was released, I would think just Mario, Pokemon and LoZ.

Yea, if a Melee were to be re-released by Sakurai I would definetly expect it to have updated graphics in HD, possibly an extra feature or two. And most importantly; online play, yea I believe this may happen but it won't be anytime soon until long after Smash 4 has been released, maybe a few years at best.

As for that spin-off idea, if you're talking about franchises competing against each other then I can probably see it happening, although franchises like Mario or Pokemon really don't need a boost of character since they are already big and popular, more like Fire Emblem and F-Zero, if Fire Emblem did indeed get more representation as far as games go, then I believe we would very much get to see either 3rd or possibly 4th rep, although I'm not sure if it would ever happen that way.

 

[Chris the Ripper]

I like lesbian girl at school,wat do?

SSB4:I want 4 taunts

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Mewtwo is still an antagonist, for opposing the player in that event. Perhaps not villainous in intent, though I've always seen him as an anti-hero (with a neutral cause carried out in an evil way). This tips him in an evil direction.

Also, wow you're right about Bisharp. This series... where is it going?

Mewtwo may be a violent Pokemon, but it's not considered evil. Its involvement in Melee's 51st event is due to the fact that it utilized darkness-based attacks.

 

[OmegaXXII]

I like lesbian girl at school,wat do?

SSB4:I want 4 taunts

Quit trolling boi!!

Yea, more taunts and victory themes should be implemented somehow.

 

[Kantrip]

I'm basing my views on the movie, in which Mewtwo wants to free Pokemon from their "enslavement" by trainers. Nothing too wrong here.

The way he does it is by taking away all the trainer's unwilling, loyal Pokemon and cloning them with the intention of killing everyone and every Pokemon that had ever had contact with a trainer using a violent storm he had created.

Sounds morally ambiguous, for sure. It's the best thing Pokemon has got as far as evil villains go.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Yea, Zoroark isn't really evil, just controlled whereas Mewtwo is pure evil.

 

[MechaWave]

There could have been 4 taunts in Brawl but for some reason Sakurai decided 3. An up taunt, left taunt, down taunt and right taunt.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Yea, the up and down on D-Pad should be different, so more music needs to happen, more specifically, a custom music option similar to how SD pictures and replays work in Brawl.

 

[Artsy Omni]

There could have been 4 taunts in Brawl but for some reason Sakurai decided 3. An up taunt, left taunt, down taunt and right taunt.

I assume it's because not all controller setups have 4 available buttons for taunts. The Remote+Nunchuk, for instance, only has 1, 2 and 1+2.

 

[Gallowglass]

In responds to my Ganondorf moveset.

I thought he was as slow as Bowser and I was just trying to keep him balanced.

If you look in his Standard A I incorporated his Forward B moves in many of his standard attacks.

I really like like Ganondorf's backhand. It was based on the move he did in OOT in order to reflect his magic back. It gives him the feeling of "Get that weak **** out of here." I don't know any standard moves that can reflect attacks so that's why I did it.

And I fixed the whole Foreward and Forward the best I could. ******* Microsoft Word

 

[OmegaXXII]

Also more Little Mac needs to happen, more representation like King Hippo and Doc Louis would be nice.

 

[Starphoenix]

Mewtwo may be a violent Pokemon, but it's not considered evil. Its involvement in Melee's 51st event is due to the fact that it utilized darkness-based attacks.

Which is why I always used "villain" in quotation marks. Typically extreme violence is often associated with evil in many cultures. As far as event 51 is concerned there is no denying Melee treated him as though he was a darker character, an antagonist of sorts. Do you honestly mean to tell me Rayquaza is more appropriate as a boss/enemy than Mewtwo?

I'm basing my views on the movie, in which Mewtwo wants to free Pokemon from their "enslavement" by trainers. Nothing too wrong here.

The way he does it is by taking away all the trainer's unwilling, loyal Pokemon and cloning them with the intention of killing everyone and every Pokemon that had ever had contact with a trainer using a violent storm he had created.

Sounds morally ambiguous, for sure. It's the best thing Pokemon has got as far as evil villains go.

As silly as it sounds that is why I compared him too Bass.EXE. Their mentality is very much alike and even their stories are similar.

Point is, if nothing else Mewtwo can be classified as an enemy. If we had another comprehensive adventure mode I fully expect him to be that neutral power that simply hates everyone, like Bass.EXE.

 

[OmegaXXII]

I'd rather use antagonist instead, makes more sense. :/