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majora_787

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I need to play SMRPG myself eventually. The only beef I have with it is that the diagonal camera angle looks very unattractive for platforming... xD
 

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Wow, and here I thought you had played most RPG's since you seem very knowledgable when it comes to them.

Anyway I played both FFI and FFII on PSX, the virtual console also has those I'm guessing.

Man, the game I still need to play is Super Mario RPG that has Geno, I wonder what Geno actually does in that game.

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I have played many RPGS. Dragon Quest, Breath of Fire series, Super Mario RPG, Saga Frontier 1&2, Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore, Seiken Densetsu 3, Phantasy Star, Chrono Trigger, Wild Arms, Paper Mario, Mario and Luigi, and several other series.

Just never played a Final Fantasy until now.

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I'm playing MY first Final Fantasy... Final Fantasy I. xD No idea what I'm doing. =P

But I know Fire Emblem... sort of. I happen to know that generally speaking, the only current characters who would have any chance of being added are

Roy - because he was previously a character and was partially programmed into Brawl.

Caeda - If they for SOME reason decide to add a brand new one. She's the second main protagonist of the newest Fire Emblem.

And Roy is much more likely, so if anything we'd get Roy back.



Sadly, and I say this because I'd like to see it, the Black Knight isn't too horribly likely...
The Black Knight's chances may not be as good as Caeda's but not for a second do I believe Roy is deserving enough to cone back, sure you may argue that he has a large fanboy fanbase in the western hemisphere, but about Japan? T
you also have to take them into consideration as well, and the sad truth is that Sakurai will most likely be looking at the polls over in Japan if there are any, personally though I'd like to see him take a worldwide approach when it come to making character decisions based on it's fans.

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Anyone thinking about Harry Potter for Smash 4? Lol.

On topic: I played a lot of rpgs but FF had to be one of the later ones in my list. I played Paper Mario first
 
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Goku..... Seriously?

On topic: Asides from changing the moves, they should change the attributes of the duo

- Slightly heavier
- Lower aerial mobility
- Slower
- Smaller grab range

That's to balance it but I'm sure this is not enough.
 

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The RPG that I felt didn't get enough love was Saga Frontier II. So much fun, and "Todfiend" is one of the best final boss RPG themes I've ever heard.

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Are you talikng about Dixie Kong duo, or all characters in general?

@majora's mask: Yea, I would really like to see Caeda over Roy since she is more unique, Roy isn't as relevant as he once was, he was scrapped in Brawl, so his chances have definetly gone down since then.

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I'm playing MY first Final Fantasy... Final Fantasy I. xD No idea what I'm doing. =P

But I know Fire Emblem... sort of. I happen to know that generally speaking, the only current characters who would have any chance of being added are

Roy - because he was previously a character and was partially programmed into Brawl.

Caeda - If they for SOME reason decide to add a brand new one. She's the second main protagonist of the newest Fire Emblem.

And Roy is much more likely, so if anything we'd get Roy back.

Sadly, and I say this because I'd like to see it, the Black Knight isn't too horribly likely...
I have nothing against Roy, he was one of my favorites in Melee (beat All Star on Very Hard with him), but I still don't think he'll return. Despite data, his chances were not that likely in Brawl to begin with, and they go down even more for SSB4.

Caeda more then likely has the best chances out of all the FE newcomers, unless there is a new FE game. But with FE12 not being released overseas it does raise some questions.

Caeda was the secondary main character in 4 FE games and the most recent ones in both the U.S. and Japan. Based on FE3, she CAN also fight without her Pegasus. She's also quite popular (after the Pegasus Sisters) in Japan so her chances go up even more. http://ikusaba.nomaki.jp/gallery/fe/ps/an-sheeda.htm

But I will admit the Black Knight's chances are not very good. :(
 

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The RPG that I felt didn't get enough love was Saga Frontier II. So much fun, and "Todfiend" is one of the best final boss RPG themes I've ever heard.

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I've heard of it, but I've never seen it before, is it worth trying?

Another overlooked RPG was The Legend of Dragoon, it was my first RPG game and it's my favorite if all time till this day, sadly it got overlooked by other mainstream titles such as Final Fantasy.

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Also @nLIM8d: Breath of Fire has more of a diagonal field view. Seriously, look up BoF3 on YouTube

Yes I plan on playing Golden Sun soon. Have college books and other responsibilitiea at the moment.

@Omega: I think it is. Very fun game and the music is phenomenal.

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Do it Camelot! Breath of Fire 3 was my favorite RPG for the longest time. Outside of that awful 5th game, all of them were fun and unique.

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And I was thinking, all the characters belonging to Earthbound had changes in their design, and perhaps, by some miracle, get in Sm4sh Ninten, he will need a new disign, since its original form does not present a definitive structure.


So I did a drawing showing how to think it would be a design of 'new Ninten'. It is based on the original, kept the main features (T-shirt and cap blue and red), it is also based on those scouts who knock on your door selling cookies or doing some kind of good deed to win some kind of medal or button. I also did its representation of shape and color of the PSI, would square with a kind of 'green Bulbasaur,' (the Ness is a white circle and Lucas is a yellow hexagon)

[collapse="Ninten"]
[/collapse]
His Moveset:

A: Punch
AA: Punch
AAA: Explosion with PSI.
Side 'A': A kind of punch that resembles the Hadouken, but using PSI
Up 'A': will be identical to 'Side A', however, upward.
Down 'A': Same as 'Up A'.
'Walking' A ': A push energized with PSI.
'Running' A ': A Kick energized with PSI.
'Looking up' A ': A simple attack with a punch powered up.
'Kneeling' A ': Roundhouse.
Side 'A' in the air: A punch down.
Up 'A' in the air: Kick up energized with PSI.
Down 'A' in the air: Burst PSI down.
'A' in the air: spin with PSI.

Standard B Moves: PK Ground: A column of earth will rise around Ninten and 15% damage for who is reached.
Side B Move: PK Fire: A lightning bolt will hit the opponent that will fire for 5 seconds with 10% damage.
Up B Move: PK Teleport: teleport to the direction requested. If fallow is in this place of arrival, someone will receive 13% damage.
Down B Move: PSI Magnet.
Final Smash: PK Techno: Will form a green bubble and that is in the middle will lose about 300% without causing any kind of thrower, leaving you vulnerable to any attack hit.

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I have nothing against Roy, he was one of my favorites in Melee (beat All Star on Very Hard with him), but I still don't think he'll return. Despite data, his chances were not that likely in Brawl to begin with, and they go down even more for SSB4.
I believe this as well since he isn't relevent to the FE series plus he was scrapped from Brawl meaning he didn't matter much to Sakurai anymore.

Caeda more then likely has the best chances out of all the FE newcomers, unless there is a new FE game. But with FE12 not being released overseas it does raise some questions.
Believe it or not, I somehow agree with this, unless there is a sign of a new FE game coming our way I doubt she will get in, don't forget a game doesn't necessarily have to be released oversees since Japan already holds the most influence for a said character, look at Marth and Roy's inclusion in Melee for example, they weren't really known in the states but despite that they were still included in Melee, same can be said about a character having a Japan only title.
Caeda was the secondary main character in 4 FE games and the most recent ones in both the U.S. and Japan. Based on FE3, she CAN also fight without her Pegasus. She's also quite popular (after the Pegasus Sisters) in Japan so her chances go up even more. http://ikusaba.nomaki.jp/gallery/fe/ps/an-sheeda.htm
True, I believe if Caeda were to be in she could very much be adjusted for play without the use of her Pegasus, she would be implemented in Smash in a way Captain Falcon was without his car.

Even he she is popular in Japan, you still have to consider if a new lord were to arise, not to mention Zelgius would also compete with her since he is as relevent as Ike is.

But I will admit the Black Knight's chances are not very good. :(
Not necessarily, seeing as Ike was already in Brawl and if indeed he would return for SSB4, why wouldn't Sakurai at least consider him? He did appear in the latest 2 FE games so that alone counts as relevence, not to mention that Ike, the protagonist is in Smash as well, I will admit that his chances aren't all that great but at the same time, he isn't impossible as well, NOTHING IS OFF THE TABLE JUST YET As far as consideration goes.

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Not necessarily, seeing as Ike was already in Brawl and if indeed he would return for SSB4, why would Sakurai at least consider him? He did appear in the latest 2 FE games so that alone counts as relevence, not to mention that Ike, the protagonist is in Smash as well, I will admit that his chances aren't all that great but at the same time, he isn't impossible as well, NOTHING IS OFF THE TABLE JUST YET As far as consideration goes.
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That's why I signed the petition. ;)
 

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I have nothing against Roy, he was one of my favorites in Melee (beat All Star on Very Hard with him), but I still don't think he'll return. Despite data, his chances were not that likely in Brawl to begin with, and they go down even more for SSB4.

Caeda more then likely has the best chances out of all the FE newcomers, unless there is a new FE game. But with FE12 not being released overseas it does raise some questions.

Caeda was the secondary main character in 4 FE games and the most recent ones in both the U.S. and Japan. Based on FE3, she CAN also fight without her Pegasus. She's also quite popular (after the Pegasus Sisters) in Japan so her chances go up even more. http://ikusaba.nomaki.jp/gallery/fe/ps/an-sheeda.htm

But I will admit the Black Knight's chances are not very good. :(

My Unit >>>>> Caeda in everyway.

reasons :

1. Provide new mechanic to SSB.

2.you can change him from male to female and vice-versa.

3.Weapon triangle fully functioned in the game. Sword,Lance and Axe.

4.The most recent main character and he is second in command next to marth.

5.Unlike Caeda his death = Game over.

6.New character.




that why Caeda have 0 chance aga
 

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Also, I wanted to mention this to Caeda/Lyn/My Unit exclusive supporters, supporting Project Begnion is positive for Fire Emblem characters. Even if you'd rather have someone else, feel free to write "I support a new Fire Emblem Character!"

Even though we may want different characters, we all want a new Fire Emblem character. :)

No defamatory comments to BK will be allowed on the petition, but general FE boosts are!
 

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Also, I wanted to mention this to Caeda/Lyn/My Unit exclusive supporters, supporting Project Begnion is positive for Fire Emblem characters. Even if you'd rather have someone else, feel free to write "I support a new Fire Emblem Character!"

Even though we may want different characters, we all want a new Fire Emblem character. :)

No defamatory comments to BK will be allowed on the petition, but general FE boosts are!
You're right, I'll sign.;)

Almost no one commented on my Ninten! :(

And I was thinking, all the characters belonging to Earthbound had changes in their design, and perhaps, by some miracle, get in Sm4sh Ninten, he will need a new disign, since its original form does not present a definitive structure.


So I did a drawing showing how to think it would be a design of 'new Ninten'. It is based on the original, kept the main features (T-shirt and cap blue and red), it is also based on those scouts who knock on your door selling cookies or doing some kind of good deed to win some kind of medal or button. I also did its representation of shape and color of the PSI, would square with a kind of 'green Bulbasaur,' (the Ness is a white circle and Lucas is a yellow hexagon)

[collapse="Ninten"]
[/collapse]
His Moveset:

A: Punch
AA: Punch
AAA: Explosion with PSI.
Side 'A': A kind of punch that resembles the Hadouken, but using PSI
Up 'A': will be identical to 'Side A', however, upward.
Down 'A': Same as 'Up A'.
'Walking' A ': A push energized with PSI.
'Running' A ': A Kick energized with PSI.
'Looking up' A ': A simple attack with a punch powered up.
'Kneeling' A ': Roundhouse.
Side 'A' in the air: A punch down.
Up 'A' in the air: Kick up energized with PSI.
Down 'A' in the air: Burst PSI down.
'A' in the air: spin with PSI.

Standard B Moves: PK Ground: A column of earth will rise around Ninten and 15% damage for who is reached.
Side B Move: PK Fire: A lightning bolt will hit the opponent that will fire for 5 seconds with 10% damage.
Up B Move: PK Teleport: teleport to the direction requested. If fallow is in this place of arrival, someone will receive 13% damage.
Down B Move: PSI Magnet.
Final Smash: PK Techno: Will form a green bubble and that is in the middle will lose about 300% without causing any kind of thrower, leaving you vulnerable to any attack hit.

What do you think?
 

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The new Fire Emblem is supposed to come out next month or something according to Nintendo Power, Im excited.

But, I'd say My Unit has a very low chance. If Nintendo wasn't going to put Mii's in Smash Bros, considering how much attention they gave to it in their overall system design. Smash Bros has never done generic characters yet (Aside from Pokemon, but that's a different story).

So, I think if we're getting any new FE'ers, it'd be Black Knight, Caeda, or Lyn.
 

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Even though we may want different characters, we all want a new Fire Emblem character. :)

No defamatory comments to BK will be allowed on the petition, but general FE boosts are!
THIS!!!

Listen to this guy!! :cool:

@IkeSama: Oh I see what you are talking about, a customizable character eh..? Is this somekind of official game in Japan?

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THIS!!!

Listen to this guy!! :cool:

@IkeSama: Oh I see what you are talking about, a customizable character eh..? Is this somekind of official game in Japan?

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It's FE12, the newest Fire Emblem game that had better be released in the US. <_<
 

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The new Fire Emblem is supposed to come out next month or something according to Nintendo Power, Im excited.

But, I'd say My Unit has a very low chance. If Nintendo wasn't going to put Mii's in Smash Bros, considering how much attention they gave to it in their overall system design. Smash Bros has never done generic characters yet (Aside from Pokemon, but that's a different story).

So, I think if we're getting any new FE'ers, it'd be Black Knight, Caeda, or Lyn.
Caeda is the best, Black Night is amazing, Lyn will hardly get, the game to be Roy.
 

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The new Fire Emblem is supposed to come out next month or something according to Nintendo Power, Im excited.
Best news I've heard all week! :)
 

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FE12 was out in Japan in 2010.

Double posting is bad.

I support the Black Knight, but he isn't too horribly likely. Porbably 2nd most likely fire emblem character behind Caeda, since he isn't in the newest games.
 
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