Because there aren't enough characters that people generally agree on that are deserving to be playable in SSB4 (I can name only three; King K. Rool, Little Mac, and Ridley, the latter of which has a swarm of trolls on other sites). We can say that our favorite character is deserving all we want, which may or may not be true, but most people with realistic expectations will agree that there are not 15 deserving characters not yet playable and I'm sure Sakurai agrees. Heck some people don't think even think we have ten deserving characters left. The Wii-U can certainly handle 50 slots, but it doesn't mean it needs 50 slots.
Plus we are likely to get less newcomers then in Brawl due to many potential candidates suffering from all types of issues. Irrelevancy, not being important to series, licensing issues, etc.I don't think size of the icons will be a problem.
I know I'm a little late to respond, but you've got a point. Ridley, Little Mac, and King K. Rool are
the newcomers for SSB4, in probably just that order I named them. I've already explained Ridley. Little Mac's revival and retro games puts him up there with Pit as a character - plus, he was probably one of the more popular characters wanted for an considered for Brawl. And Donkey Kong - the franchise responsible for creating Mario - has the historical significance
and the series revival that should give it another character - and despite his lack of relevance currently, K. Rool
is that character.
Afterwards, it should be noticeable to everyone that we debate and have set opinions for, against, or uncaring for the inclusion of any other characters.
I do think that SSB4 desperately need more new, modern Nintendo franchise reps, though, because Olimar and Wario didn't cut it for me in Brawl.
To answer JavaCroc, here would be my answer:
[COLLAPSE="Super Smash Bros. "1" Roster][b]Super Mario Bros.:[/b]
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser*
Paper Mario*
[b]Donkey Kong:[/b]
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
King K. Rool*
[b]Mario Spin-Off:[/b]
Yoshi
Wario*
[b]The Legend of Zelda:[/b]
Link
Zelda/Sheik
Ganondorf*
[b]Metroid:[/b]
Samus
Ridley*
[b]Kirby:[/b]
Kirby
King Dedede
Meta-Knight*
[b]Star Fox:[/b]
Fox
Falco*
[b]Pokemon:[/b]
Pikachu
Pokemon Trainer
Mewtwo*
Lucario*
[b]Earthbound:[/b]
Lucas*
[b]F-zero:[/b]
Captain Falcon*
[b]Fire Emblem:[/b]
Marth
Ike*
[b]Kid Icarus:[/b]
Pit
[b]Pikmin:[/b]
Olimar
[b]Ice Climbers:[/b]
Ice Climbers
[b]Game & Watch:[/b]
Mr. Game & Watch*
[b]Gyromite/Stacker:[/b]
R.O.B.*
[b]Punch-Out!!:[/b]
Little Mac
[b]Golden Sun:[/b]
Isaac*
Cuts: Toon Link, Wolf, Jigglypuff, Ness (As much as I hated to do this, Lucas is more relevant, so he gets the spot), Snake, Sonic.
Additions: Paper Mario, King K. Rool, Ridley, Mewtwo, Little Mac, Isaac[/COLLAPSE][/QUOTE]
Dang, I forgot Little Mac.
[quote="Super Smash Bros. Fan, post: 13048819"]The chances of us losing SSB4 is next to zero. Nintendo isn't stupid to drop a highly anticipated game like down like Capcom was with Mega Man Legends 3. However, if it we're to happen, I would not be surprise to see it hit the front news and the Nintendo core fan base to utterly collapse.
The fan base would never again recover and Nintendo's plan to bring back the core gamers would be impossible to do. It is this one game that will make or break the fan base.
I doubt SSB4 is dying. However, I don't think losing Smash Bros. would completely stop Nintendo in their tracks, although it would greatly hinder them. We'd still have all their other franchises and inevitable games to enjoy.
Megaman has had 2 games cancelled, his franchise is apparently on hiatus, and like you said, In a Capcom All Star game, a generic zombie got in over their mascot. Come on, you have to admit that level of utter shafting is pretty funny. It is almost unfathomabe. At least I think it's hilarious that Capcom is literally going out of their way to kill Megaman. Happens to the best of em. No need to get upset.
Hoots, show some respect for the Blue Bomber. I don't think Capcom is done with him yet, but I do think his series is positioned on a cliff edge right now.
Oasis, watch the videos with Firebrand and use that as inspiration for Ridley.
DO IT!
That video shows that Ridley can be done in Smash Bros. Show this and Oasis's diagrams to any anti-Ridley people and they shall be silenced.
Absolutely. We need to have balance and unique sets. If we are expecting ~15 characters, the development team has the ability to come up with that many movesets as well as continue luigification of Luigi, Wolf, Falco, Toon Link, Lucas.
I wanted to put out my newest Roster prediction. My current thoughts:
1. Considering the removal of Andy and Advance Wars.
2. Considering Addition of Samurai Goroh or Black Shadow
3. Debating Lucas and Jigglypuff's cut status.
Honestly, I've changed my mind on adding another F-Zero rep. The franchise is on hiatus much like Custom Robo, Nintendo Wars, and even Yoshi are. I don't think F-Zero should get another rep just because it hasn't since the original SSB64, even if Mother now has two reps. At least Mother got a game in 2006. F-Zero's last game was in 2004. Besides, Yoshi hasn't got another rep either and Yoshi's Island DS released in 2007 in Japan and 2006 everywhere else, so Yoshi is more relevant. Yet does anyone want another Yoshi rep?
I'd prefer the slot for a second F-Zero rep be used for another new franchise or even a retro character.
Just in case a visual helps, y'know. That's 44 slots, 48 characters. All rather reasonable choices. Obviously some notable characters are left out. K. Rool? Medusa? Burger Knight? Add them and that's 51. It's an increase of 12, which is one less than the increase we saw from Melee to Brawl, and two less than the increase we saw from 64 to Melee. Perfectly reasonable, I'd say.
I wouldn't mind this roster for SSB4. Sure, we don't get another DK rep or Mario rep, but I do think Kid Icarus does
not need another rep, no matter if Sakurai is behind the franchises's revival game Uprising. A new Fire Emblem rep would be nice, but isn't necessary when it comes down to it. I think Goroh can be swapped with another character, but that's just me.
I like how your third row down features mostly villains. I like it when a roster image does more than just paste character pictures in a generic order.
