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I believe Issac deserves a spot in Smash. His move ability may have to be tone down from Brawl (that would be uber powerful). I would also like to see his Ragnorok move and a summon style final smash.
 

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I still prefer IGN to GameSpot, though. After GS's review of Radiant Dawn, I can't stand reading any more of their official reviews.

And I was about to vote Ryu, but then I realized they aren't talking about the one from BoF, so I chose Mega Man instead. ):
I think it mainly stems from the fact with that article they did a week ago where they wanted to take out Mr. G&W and put in Cloud. :glare:

EDIT: What does BoF stand for again?
 

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http://wii.ign.com/articles/117/1174797p1.html

Anyone else cringe at IGN articles that talk about SSB? Also there is some poll for capcom characters in the link if you guys are interested. Megaman (who i voted for) is owning atm. This might affect who gets in for Capcom so better vote.
Sakurai shouldn't have any concerns about being able to adapt Megaman into Smash Bros. Megaman has been in fighting games since 1997 so the work has pretty much already been done for him. Also, why is Dante on the poll where there has yet to be a DMC on a Nintendo console?
 
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Issac deserves to have Smash rep in Super Smash Bros. 4, but I think he'll more likely then not be 3DS exclusive due to his origin in the handheld consoles and the series lack of console rep.

I voted for Mega Man in the poll. He fits the best out of all potential third-party rep and will almost certainly be the 3rd third-party character. Let's hope the Classic Mega Man gets in; there's a reason why I put Mega Man in my signature to support him.

@refugee: It stands for Breath of Fire.
 

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Sakurai shouldn't have any concerns about being able to adapt Megaman into Smash Bros. Megaman has been in fighting games since 1997 so the work has pretty much already been done for him. Also, why is Dante on the poll where there has yet to be a DMC on a Nintendo console?
Because you can't spell ignorant without IGN! ZING!

Issac deserves to have Smash rep in Super Smash Bros. 4, but I think he'll more likely then not be 3DS exclusive due to his origin in the handheld consoles and the series lack of console rep.

I voted for Mega Man in the poll. He fits the best out of all potential third-party rep and will almost certainly be the 3rd third-party character. Let's hope the Classic Mega Man gets in; there's a reason why I put Mega Man in my signature to support him.

@refugee: It stands for Breath of Fire.
Make sure you state that in the comments and thanks.
 

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I think it mainly stems from the fact with that article they did a week ago where they wanted to take out Mr. G&W and put in Cloud. :glare:

EDIT: What does B0F stand for again?
Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that lmao. I guess they aren't called IGNorant for nothing, eh?

And BoF is Breath of Fire. Old RPG series that started on the SNES. The first and second games were awesome, particularly the second.
 

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I would like Megaman's Neutral B to have EXACT same effect it does in MvC2. It would be gay but I think it would be cool too.
 

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I think SSB4 and SSB3DS will have the same characters it's just that SSB4 will focus on multiplayer and the 3DS on will focus on single player. Also, the two games are supposed to interact with each other so this makes a lot more sense than them being two entirely different games. In a way, each version will be a half of the whole game.
 

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Issac deserves to have Smash rep in Super Smash Bros. 4, but I think he'll more likely then not be 3DS exclusive due to his origin in the handheld consoles and the series lack of console rep.
I could see that, I never gave thought to having exclusives for the separate games, just a smaller roster for the 3DS. I'm still hoping for a console appearance. ):
 

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Issac deserves to have Smash rep in Super Smash Bros. 4, but I think he'll more likely then not be 3DS exclusive due to his origin in the handheld consoles and the series lack of console rep.
If he is 3DS exclusive, we better be able to transfer him over if we have both. I want to see Isaac in HD. If I don't, I will still be disappointed to quite an extent.

I think it would only be right, since the games interact with each other. We should definitely be able to have all characters in the Wii U version if we bought the 3DS version as well.

I think SSB4 and SSB3DS will have the same characters it's just that SSB4 will focus on multiplayer and the 3DS on will focus on single player.
That would severely limit the number of characters in the roster. There will have to be exclusives.
 

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I'm still worried about characters with XP, remember what Sakurai was mentioning?
If I have to level up, I will feel like I'm playing Pokemon and will lose the instant gameplay feeling you get from other Smashes.
 

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Maybe Issac can only be unlocked on the 3DS and then you could transfer him over to Wii-U. Good, I was trying to think of a Non-pokemon character that would be good for that.
 
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Sakurai needs to look at this thread and the 3DS thread to get a better idea of what we want. It's mostly realistic and will make for a great roster for everyone with realistic expectations!
refugee said:
Make sure you state that in the comments and thanks.
Done and done.

My post on IGN said:
Classic Mega Man isn't just my most wanted Capcom or third-party character, he is easily my most wanted character for Super Smash Bros. 4. Make it happen Nintendo and as long as Sonic and Snake gets in, I will be completely satisfied with the third-party section of the game.

He needs to happen, everyone should support Classic Mega Man for SSB4!
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If he is 3DS exclusive, we better be able to transfer him over if we have both. I want to see Isaac in HD. If I don't, I will still be disappointed to quite an extent.

I think it would only be right, since the games interact with each other. We should definitely be able to have all characters in the Wii U version if we bought the 3DS version as well.
I'm really hoping for being able to transfer characters as well. There are quite a few characters I want to see in the game but just can't imagine being more likely on the console version. This is why I'm hoping that the 3DS version has no exclusive characters and stages, although the chances of that happening is very poor.
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Yeah same here, I find it extremely odd given the popularity of Street Fighter vs the Viewtiful Joe series.
Probably because all his games except for Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 have appeared on Nintendo's platform. What people don't recognize that no one from Capcom aside from Mega Man and maybe Ryu has much of a chance to get into SSB4.
 

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One thing I want in a character is something different, Maybe like a pure archer (His/Her Smash attacks and Normals are projectiles of some sort). Possibly a character from FE or something, but its something I think would be pretty cool.
 
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As fun as character discussions are, let's move on to something else for now. Like online features.

Does anyone like the idea of having a separate online mode for tournaments? This is a huge thing in Smash, so much so that Sakurai must at least know some of it. We would be able to create our own tournaments without the hassle of having to exchange FCs or go into Friend matches.

Also, the following are a must:

- Lag-free online play: If Nintendo is claiming a Xbox Live quality online service, they better make one of their biggest core games as smooth as possible
- Voice chat: How fun is it to trash talk your friends during a match? No more pointless taunt messages.
- Online ranking
- Online leaderboards
- DLC: It can work in our favor, I just know it.
- 1v1, 1v2/2v1, 1v3, 2v2, Free-For-All (2/3/4 players).
- Online user stats.
 

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As fun as character discussions are, let's move on to something else for now. Like online features.

Does anyone like the idea of having a separate online mode for tournaments? This is a huge thing in Smash, so much so that Sakurai must at least know some of it. We would be able to create our own tournaments without the hassle of having to exchange FCs or go into Friend matches.

Also, voice chat and lag-free online are a must.
Online Rankings, Voice Chat, Being able to see your opponents usernames, option for 1v1 (not just 2v2 and FFA), Online rankings for teams, Online user stats (Most used character, most played stage, etc.)

Stuff like that would be nice.
Also I read an article saying that the WiiU will use Usernames instead of Friend Codes
 
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Also I read an article saying that the WiiU will use Usernames instead of Friend Codes
Already discussed, but still glad that Friend Codes are finally dead. I love the PSN's Username system. Would also be nice if they would let you put space in between words and allow up to thirty character letters.
 

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Online Rankings, Voice Chat, Being able to see your opponents usernames, option for 1v1 (not just 2v2 and FFA), Online rankings for teams, Online user stats (Most used character, most played stage, etc.)

Stuff like that would be nice.
So pretty much the basics mostly. :bee:
 

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Well, I'm fine with the basics. Nintendo seems to have trouble even getting the basics of online down-pat in the first place, so seeing a simple online that works well would be good enough.
 

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They should allow enough time to include all past characters (there's 40), plus a healthy amount of new characters too.

If they can't all be included by release date, I support the use of DLC, to like, bring back Pichu, Mewtwo, Dr. Mario, Roy, and OOT Young Link, as well as any others who may not return from Brawl.

DLC should also be utilized to bring back all the past stages as well - that is, those that can't be incorporated into the final game.

Other potential uses for DLC and other potential unlockables:
Costumes
Items (yes, unlockable items)
Modes
Music
 
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@PF9: I think the music should come with stages.

I would also be in favor of characters that are highly requested that doesn't make the cut into SSB4 as well as planned characters from SSB64, Brawl, and planned SSB4 characters that were cut so they can finish it up and offer it. Characters that were in development but couldn't get into the final roster should be free for sure, but others that people want I'm willing to pay at the most $3 for.

As Anth0ny said, this game has a nearly limitless potential for DLC, only hampered by the rules Sakurai set out. Patches should be used as well, only that it's made after the game is totally finished and it's used for improving the game's physic/adding in new modes a la GT5.
 

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For online, SSFAE has set a really, really good standard that's supposed to be trumped by SF x Tekken. Make it that good, Nintendo.
 

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@PF9: I think the music should come with stages.
I'd also like to see the possibility of moving songs around stages. In Brawl alone, there were quite a few songs that seemed out of place. "SMW Title/Ending" comes to mind - it was on Delfino Plaza, but should have been on Yoshi's Island Melee.
 

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PF9 said:
If they can't all be included by release date, I support the use of DLC, to like, bring back Pichu, Mewtwo, Dr. Mario, Roy, and OOT Young Link, as well as any others who may not return from Brawl.

DLC should also be utilized to bring back all the past stages as well - that is, those that can't be incorporated into the final game.

Other potential uses for DLC and other potential unlockables:
Costumes
Items (yes, unlockable items)
Modes
Music
Agreed, this concept would truly be the greatest implematation that be added, more possibitlies would mean more fun with almost endless possibilities, heck even after launch people would continue to be hyped over it, meaning more sales overall.

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For online, SSFAE has set a really, really good standard that's supposed to be trumped by SF x Tekken. Make it that good, Nintendo.
With the ridiculous one Wii-U remote controller limit that severely hurts local multi-player, it's pretty much a necessity for Nintendo to make online as fantastic as they possibly can. I want to see online play that matches among the best and I'm sure others agree.
 

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With the ridiculous one Wii-U remote controller limit that severely hurts local multi-player, it's pretty much a necessity for Nintendo to make online as fantastic as they possibly can. I want to see online play that matches among the best and I'm sure others agree.
Actually, it doesn't hurt it as much as you think. There are two USB ports in the front and in the back. Assuming wired/wireless controllers are supported via USB, local multiplayer won't be much of an issue.
 

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With the ridiculous one Wii-U remote controller limit that severely hurts local multi-player, it's pretty much a necessity for Nintendo to make online as fantastic as they possibly can. I want to see online play that matches among the best and I'm sure others agree.
You can still use Wii Remotes though.
 
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Actually, it doesn't hurt it as much as you think. There are two USB ports in the front and in the back. Assuming wired/wireless controllers are supported via USB, local multiplayer won't be much of an issue.
The problem being is that people, including core gamers, don't want to use the Wii Mote, which once the Wii-U comes out, is last gen tech (I'd be willing to put up with it, although I still wish we didn't have to use eventually last-gen tech). It should not be a necessity to have at least one Wii Remote out at a time and people aren't going to rush out and buy Wii motes. Developers understand this clearly and the fact that many developers that are making games for the Wii-U probably had no interest in developing the Wii, I would not be surprise if most games on the Wii-U are online only. Most of my multi-player gaming experience are online, so it doesn't affect me much; but others who don't have Internet will likely be left in the dust.

Plus the console promise Xbox Live-type experience, so of course developers, maybe even Sakurai himself, will prefer online to local multi-player. I'm really hoping that Smash's multi-player will be fantastic not only online, but offline as well and that KumaOso is right about local multi-player gaming not being affected as much as I think.
 

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If they can't all be included by release date, I support the use of DLC, to like, bring back Pichu, Mewtwo, Dr. Mario, Roy, and OOT Young Link, as well as any others who may not return from Brawl.
I don't care how much space the next game has for a roster, said space should not be wasted on characters that are just different versions of more popular characters. Dr. Mario would better work out as a costume for Mario anyways.


Well, I'm fine with the basics. Nintendo seems to have trouble even getting the basics of online down-pat in the first place, so seeing a simple online that works well would be good enough.
Same, I just find it's funny how we would be fine with the basics because how bad Brawl's online was.
 
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Same, I just find it's funny how we would be fine with the basics because how bad Brawl's online was.
Probably because Nintendo is promising a Xbox Live-like experience, it's only natural to have high expectations for the online section as well. Even if it's the best fighting online game we've ever seen, there will still be some people who cries about "OMG WHERE'S DIS FEATURE???". Personally, all I want for Sora Ltd. to do with the online is to get it right and make it fun for years to come.
 

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I don't care how much space the next game has for a roster, said space should not be wasted on characters that are just different versions of more popular characters. Dr. Mario would better work out as a costume for Mario anyways.
Each character has its own qualities that makes it special. I should point out the similarities between Mewtwo/Lucario and Roy/Ike too. Therefore, your argument is invalid.
 
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Super Smash Bros. Fan, you can still use the Classic Controller Pro.
I'll probably end up using the Wii-U controller and if not possible, the Classic Controller as well (I don't have the Pro version). I'm just hoping we'll see a firmwire update allowing more then one Wii-U controller at a time.
 
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