New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Oasis_S]

Yes it is a good idea, shadow mario can shoot paint balls or not have any projectile game at all. His paint brush is good enough, oh and sorry for the late reply

Don't talk.

 

[JPW]

Someone was saying Falco could be cut. I really don't see that happening. That's probably one of the most unlikely cuts and the most weirdest.
I realise he is a clone. But when it comes to Starfox series he's probably the second or third most important character. I reckon if they cut Snake they should give Falco some of his moves. Such as the Rocket Launcher and Homing Missiles.
And Wolf could get Grenades and Mines in his moveset.

Sonic i am hoping can stay, but if Sakurai wants to make it about Nintendo i can see them cutting Sonic for the sake of that. Sonic i feel fits Smash Bros more than Snake. Sonic also holds quite a history with Nintendo especially in the 90's. It's possibly one of the main reasons why they thought of including him. To settle the fight once and for all.
Sonic vs Mario. Who would win?

I remember the day Sonic was introduced was like the "BEST DAY EVER!" for me. I was ecstatic that day. And i like wanted the game the next day. I really hated waiting another 6 months. I didn't even read the Sega announcement i just checked the Dojo. And you know how it has that slow picture loading time, and sometimes you see the filename before the pic. That's what happened with me so you can imagine my anticipation in that 5 secs.

If anyone's in trouble of being cut I reckon it's Lucario.

 

[SmashChu]

My main worry going into Smash 4 will be about characters that have already been in Smash Bros. I obviously want Mewtwo and Roy to return. However, from Sakurai's statements about Brawl hitting the limit in terms of what's feasible, I do have a worry that Sakurai will go become "axe happy" with Smash 4. Obviously characters such as Diddy Kong, King Dedede, Wario, Meta Knight, Pit, and Olimar are safe. However, Brawl characters that I liked that I am worried about are Pokemon Trainer (with Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard), Sonic, Wolf, ROB, and Lucas. I am also worried about possiblu Jigglypuff and Falco being cut. Overall, I will be very different than most Smash Bros. fans going into Smash 4 (assuming Ridley and Mega Man are among the first characters announced). As with most Smash Bros. fans that are active with speculation still wanting many characters to get in, most of my character concerns will be with characters returning.

My thinking is why would they cut anyone. There really isn't in Brawl to cut save for Snake and Sonic and no one wants characters cut. I'd only expect those two to be cut because they are guest.

Space for characters take up no more than 20 Mb and that's being generous. If there were be to say, 54 characters (transformation included), that would take up only 1080 Mb, less than a Gb of space. So we could definitely see at least 50 characters (transformation included). The question is; will they have time?

I don't think it will be hard. If they are using Brawl's engine, it will be cake. Even still, they are already done and would have to balanced and adapted. Sakurai added new characters to Brawl. I'm sure he could muster 13/14. Also, a 45-48 roster is kind of normal in this day and age.

 

[Oasis_S]

Also, a 45-48 roster is kind of normal in this day and age.

You mean 51-53 in all though, don't you? Lately I see people throw around the number 42. Weirdos.

 

[SmashChu]

You mean 51-53 in all though, don't you? Lately I see people throw around the number 42. Weirdos.

Wouldn't it be 49-52. It's just my number plus 4 (two more Pokemon, Sheik, ZSS)

Did I mention the Awesomenauts soundtrack will be released tomorrow?

 

[Oasis_S]

Wouldn't it be 49-52. It's just my number plus 4 (two more Pokemon, Sheik, ZSS)

MAYBE IF YOU'RE A NERD AND KNOW BASIC MATH.

Though I guess in my head I wasn't much thinking of your numbers, and just going of Brawl's 39 + 12 or 14 newcomers. Since that's what I think is most reasonable.

Node.

 

[RhymesWithEmpty]

So, I haven't posted on these forums since Brawl speculation was going on, but I have been following this thread for a while now, and, out of pure boredom, I've created this 160 slot roster made up of the characters I've most primarily seen being discussed in Smash Bros. speculation throughout the years.

Obviously, this roster isn't at all realistic. As far as SSB4's actual roster goes, I would be surprised if we hit 50 characters. And I am completely aware of the fact that many of these choices stand around a 0% chance - my goal here was simply to make as comprehensive a list as possible without getting too crazy and adding characters like Navi or Master Chief or Goku from DBZ, etc. There are quite a few characters on here that I think are completely absurd and not the greatest of choices, and a few that I haven't actually seen brought up in conversation and probably stand no chance, but thought might be interesting anyways. The point was just to create something that people might be able to use to assemble their ultimate fantasy roster, within the vaguest confines of reason.

I am aware that a user-made program for creating roster images already exists, and I think it's pretty awesome. I guess this is just for anyone who might want slightly more uniform, higher res. icons to play with. It should be easy enough for anyone to edit in paint, and I invite you to have at it

Also, if you want to point out how big an idiot I am for forgetting about so and so, or question why the hell I put this, that and the other person on there, or bite my head off for not including the right Fire Emblem lords or Pokemon or having too many damn Wario characters, or whatever else you can think of, please do! Maybe I'll have a solid reasoning for you, maybe you'll change my mind about something, maybe I'll add another row or 5 or something crazy like that, maybe I'll stop writing in run-on sentences! Who knows?

Thought it might be something to discuss, at any rate. And sorry for interrupting the conversation with my big, irrelevant chunks of text For the record, I think both Snake and Sonic ought to stay, since they're both unique characters, and see no reason why either would be cut, unless Konami freaks out and does a 180. All in all, I am for no cuts.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I fail to see how Smash being different from other fighting games in general would affect Sakurai's beliefs on third parties. Just because Smash does this and that differently doesn't mean that everything will be done differently because of that. This whole thing with guests though is a completely different beast, though, I'll give you that

At this point, I'd rather expect the worst and hope for the best. I try to be a little more optimistic than this usually, but this is the first time we've ever had both guest characters and cut characters in Smash so it's hard not to be at least a little cautious of what comes next

 

[FlareHabanero]

What about the concept of version exclusive characters, with certain characters being unique inether Smash Bros. Wii U or Smash Bros. 3DS?

 

[Big-Cat]

What about the concept of version exclusive characters, with certain characters being unique inether Smash Bros. Wii U or Smash Bros. 3DS?

Next person to suggest this will be forced to play MK vs. DC for a week straight.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Thanks for reminding me that MK vs DCU existed

lol

 

[ChronoBound]

I am really hoping Sakurai addresses whether he will be doing cuts this time early on, like he did with Brawl. I am also hoping the topic of whether some of the Fallen Five will be brought back comes up as well.

 

[yani]

I am really hoping Sakurai addresses whether he will be doing cuts this time early on, like he did with Brawl. I am also hoping the topic of whether some of the Fallen Five will be brought back comes up as well.

Sakurai at e3: "Not all of the characters will be returning"

Boo'd off stage

 

[Oasis_S]

Sakurai at e3: "Not all of the characters will be returning"

Boo'd off stage

Loool.

He should trip while walking to the stage.

 

[Big-Cat]

Loool.

He should trip while walking off the stage.

Fixed for truth.

 

[ChronoBound]

Sakurai at e3: "Not all of the characters will be returning"

Boo'd off stage

If he does say "there will be cuts", I am hoping he at least gives us a number range (like 1-5). I would hope that he would just immediately name off who would not return, though I can Sakurai seeing that as a bad idea (deluge of requests begging Sakurai to reconsider cutting those characters).

 

[Oasis_S]

Ah... You're right, I'm sorry. That's the way it works, isn't it. If he were to trip while walking to the stage, then whatever he has to say afterward would make you forget about it for the moment. But if he tripped while walking off, that would be the last thing he did in front of the audience, leaving a lasting impression.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Next person to suggest this will be forced to play MK vs. DC for a week straight.

You know as well as I do that there will be version exclusives between two versions. Don't even dare to deny it.

 

[yani]

If he does say "there will be cuts", I am hoping he at least gives us a number range (like 1-5). I would hope that he would just immediately name off who would not return, though I can Sakurai seeing that as a bad idea (deluge of requests begging Sakurai to reconsider cutting those characters).

The only thing I think he might declare right off the bat would be a "guest policy", if he does intend to cut them in favor of new ones, or none at all.

 

[Oasis_S]

You know as well as I do that there will be version exclusives between two versions. Don't even dare to deny it.

Why are you like this.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Why are you like this.

Because if everything was rainbows and unicorns, that would be incredibly boring.

 

[Oasis_S]

Yeah, but CLASHES OF IDEAS are cool when it's between good ideas. Not good ideas vs nonsense ones.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

Ah... You're right, I'm sorry. That's the way it works, isn't it. If he were to trip while walking to the stage, then whatever he has to say afterward would make you forget about it for the moment. But if he tripped while walking off, that would be the last thing he did in front of the audience, leaving a lasting impression.

Actually either would be pretty memorable because of the primacy and recency effects. IMO

 

[ChronoBound]

I actually feel disappointed that I do not anticipate Smash 4 as much as I anticipated Melee and Brawl.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I actually feel disappointed that I do not anticipate Smash 4 as much as I anticipated Melee and Brawl.

Well to be fair, we know very little about this new game. Not even an official title.

 

[Oasis_S]

Actually either would be pretty memorable because of the primacy and recency effects. IMO

What if he tripped on his way to the stage, and as he walked off, the crowed called out to him saying "DON'T TRIP!"

 

[ChronoBound]

Well to be fair, we know very little about this new game. Not even an official title.

In terms of characters though, the anticipation is simply not there. There were MANY characters for Melee and Brawl that I really, really wanted.

 

[Oasis_S]

Do you think you'll be playing with us much, ChronoBound.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

What if he tripped on his way to the stage, and as he walked off, the crowed called out to him saying "DON'T TRIP!"

And then he trips anyway. That'd be the best XD.

 

[Big-Cat]

Is it me, or does Chrono post in his own universe?

 

[Metal Mania1321]

What if he tripped on his way to the stage, and as he walked off, the crowed called out to him saying "DON'T TRIP!"

Just imagine if Sakarai said "I've learned my leason. No more tripping in Smash Bros!"
Poetic Justice at its best.

 

[ChronoBound]

Do you think you'll be playing with us much, ChronoBound.

It largely depends on Sakurai's plans for Smash 4.

 

[Oasis_S]

Is it me, or does Chrono post in his own universe?

I think of him as like, an old war veteran. He's been through a lot. This is the only place he can share his thoughts, but no one truly understands the kinds of things he feels. How many can relate to a man that has been part of the speculatory scene since the beginning?

 

[Starphoenix]

@N3ON- Well, Sonic already have a crossover series with Nintendo that he can call home, he doesn't need to be in Smash Bros

Besides, it doesn't make sense to keep one third party but not the other. I hate to say it, really I do, but the blue dude with a 'tude can get the boot just as easily as Snake will most likely get the boot

Really? Really?

 

[Deleted member]

Are people still using the Playstation game as an excuse to why Snake is going to be cut?

Smh....

 

[Oasis_S]

Has it even been confirmed that Snake is in it? Lol.


Also Snake should have been in Uprising.

 

[Deleted member]

Has it even been confirmed that Snake is in it? Lol.


Also Snake should have been in Uprising.

Somewhat. It's been confirmed that David Hayter has a role in the game.

 

[~automatic]

David Hayter is voicing the Duck Hunt Dog in PSASBR.

 

[JPW]

I actually feel disappointed that I do not anticipate Smash 4 as much as I anticipated Melee and Brawl.

Wait until the Dojo returns. The anticipation will build.

 

[ChronoBound]

Wait until the Dojo returns. The anticipation will build.

You did not see my follow-up comment. At this point, there are much less characters that I really want in than I did for Melee and Brawl. If I am going to anticipate Smash 4 greatly, it will be for the gameplay at this point, not the characters. I will most likely not be following Smash 5.