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Nooooope, I'm in the same boat.
I could see him in Smash, although I think Bowser Jr. and Toad are more likely. I'm saying a 50/50 shot for him. There are, however, many who doubt him.
i wouldn't call him a serious contender either.
This could very well be true, but I don't think we were ever told how much of a push Pokemon Company made for specific characters pre-Brawl. It seems (as Pichu was primarily added to fill out the roster and not to promote the new gen) that the Pokemon Company didn't care as much which Pokemon were made playable. (Although who could argue with Pikachu, Mewtwo, and ... Jigglypuff).
I guess all we know for certain is that the Pokemon Company told Sakurai to put him in, although you are right in that we don't know if it was just due to marketing, due to positive reception and popularity, due to fitting well in Smash, or a mix of all (which is probably the most likely).
It seems to boil down to if the Pokemon Company makes Sakurai include a rep of the newest gen first and foremost, before adding Mewtwo and/or Lucario. The preferable choice for us smashers would be for Mewtwo to get priority over a new character, however I still believe Pokemon Company will find adding a new character more important, and make Sakurai do that. That being said, I see the chance of getting both a new Pokemon and Mewtwo to be very high, as I think Mewtwo will be higher on Sakurai's list of characters to implement than he was in Brawl. I think Lucario would be relatively low on this list though, and might be in real danger of getting axed due to time restraints (which I agree would probably be the only reason he would be axed).
I think promotion for promotion's sake is a bad reason for inclusion, although it does make sense market-wise, and I don't see it going away. However, Nintendo and Sakurai are usually smart with adding characters used for promotion, and characters chosen fit very well and are usually popular anyway (such as Roy, or Lucario -- if that's what he was added for). Promotion and popularity usually feed eachother and come hand in hand anyway (not always though). The thing is, if the "difficulty" with dealing with the Pokemon Company wasn't made as clear as it was, I bet alot of people wouldn't even think Lucario was added at the Pokemon Company's demand.
That usually happens to me too when I'm debating with someone. Often makes it harder for me to disagree with them, lol.
The funny part about this is that when taking into account transformations, Pokemon and Zelda are ahead of Mario by two and one characters respectively.
Of course, if you take into account the Donkey Kong, Yoshi, and Wario characters as well, the Mario Universe outnumbers Pokemon and Zelda, regardless of transformation amounts.
I am too! I hope that it doesn't fizzle out, but like it is in Japan, stays strong a number of years after release.I'm enjoying all of the Shulk support 8D
I'm with you, he is just a paper version of Mario and nothing really special IMO.
I personally think Shulk has a much better chance of being added than Isaac. It helps that Monolith Soft as a development team did much more this generation than Camelot has done. I believe Monolith Soft even did work on Skyward Sword's graphics.
I really hope it becomes a series! The game is two years old in Japan, so it's extremely likely that Sakurai has played it. Monolith Soft did some work on Brawl, and I think it's very possible that they may ask to have him playable, especially if they help out with Smash 4. The way I see it, Xenoblade most definitely needs a stage/music, and it has a playable character with no reason to be ruled out (unlike AC, in which he said something about their charm)
Xenoblade seems to becoming a cult hit in Japan. It got really positive word of mouth (though it only ended up selling about 180K). Shulk seems to be requested quite a bit when the topic of Smash 4 newcomers comes up.
Yeah, I'm surprised no one has actively vouched for her removal on Shortie's roster (Oasis's "Cut Krystal" doesn't count).ChaosKid said:
What? Paper Mario was never going to be in Brawl.
That's good. Ironically, Xenoblade may have sold the most in NA (though I'm going by VGChartz, which isn't too reliable). According to another rumor, Xenoblade sold well enough for Gamestop to want to push for Pandora's Tower, but that should be taken lightly for now.
