New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Aurane]

HEH. A Waluigi supporter trying to look Smart. Adorable.

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I need the link to Sakurai's coversation with Iwata about the 3DS maybe being denied. Does anyone have it by chance? I really need it >_>

 

[LC-DDM]

Probably because some DLC media can make people jealous. For example, those who own the Wii version of Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing miss out on getting Metal Sonic.

And if it weren't for the damn Marionic Olympics we would have gotten Mario in the Wii verson too >_>;

I was hoping that DLC would be more like...

You download a character, and he/she gets saved onto your SD Card. The next time you play your game, you can access your SD Card, and choose that new DLC character.

Wouldn't that be easily exploitable though? I mean, if the Wii U would get hacked, wouldn't that mean we could make our own characters?

 

[Diddy Kong]

Just imagine the thought of Roy, Mewtwo, and Dixie Kong's Brawl data being "completed" after Brawl's release. Also, imagine perhaps more past stages from Melee. I dunno about you, but that would have been absolutely AWESOME!!!

Would've been the best thing in Brawl since Diddy's inclusion... 2 extra characters from my favorite series + Mewtwo? Would've rocked my socks.

 

[LC-DDM]

Valve comes right off the head. There's all kinds of free DLC and updates for all their games. 2K also from the games I have don't do that crap. The few EA games I own have quality paid DLC, and the company that makes LittleBigPlanet DLC policy ain't too shabby, either.

Also, Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft's system for buying games from past consoles are (mostly) pretty fair price-wise, too.

Unfortunately, the console people don't get said DLC.

PC MASTER RACE

...Huh. Maybe I should reconsider Starfy.

Though It's easier to just assume you were reading the ramblings of idiots.

Why, 'cause they're japanese? Totally not xenophobic or anything.

That SENTIMENT was around before Starfy's Dojo page though, wasn't it? Could have Sworn it was. That only Served to Solidify the belief.

And I think Waluigi supporters are dumbutts. No big deal. Should they care what the Strongest in the whole world thinks of them?

Wow. WOW.

I think I've actually met someone who's an even bigger ******* than I am, and that's not an easy feat.

Really, what's next? Comparing Waluigi supporters to the jews? Gas chamber to them all?

 

[yani]

Sorry for the double post, but this is interesting:
http://mynintendonews.com/2011/04/26/nintendo-3ds-new-banjo-kazooie-game-coming-to-the-nintendo-3ds/

If this is true, then Banjo-Kazooie may have a shot for Sm4sh, albiet only for the 3DS version.

Sadly, they don't have a handheld team anymore, so there's a big chance this isn't true.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Waluigi sucks though. I really don't wanna see him in Smash... :/

Rare has no handheld team? Guess it isn't true then... Just there I was hoping for an ACTUAL DKC4...

 

[Linkshot]

Wouldn't that be easily exploitable though? I mean, if the Wii U would get hacked, wouldn't that mean we could make our own characters?

Actually, this would be exactly how to hack the Wii-U. Think the custom stage Stack Smash exploit.

Also if you guys are going to avoid buying the game just because of one character's inclusion, you should simply move away from this extremely diverse series, and especially stop giving the fans your opinions.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

The day Waluigi is confirmed to be a playable character is the day that I will fill my buckets with your tears and eat the flesh of those that are stupid enough to be driven to suicide over one character.

It's a good thing that I have nothing against Waluigi then. He'll probably get his chance in the future.

The only Japan-only character that comes up a lot is Takamaru. Those other characters do get mentioned, but not to the extent that Takamaru is.

At least Takamaru's appearance in the Samurai Warriors series showed that he hasn't been completely forgotten.

Rare has no handheld team? Guess it isn't true then... Just there I was hoping for an ACTUAL DKC4...

Well I really wasn't expecting Rare to work on handhelds much anyway. So much for the Banjo and Kazooie support then.

 

[Big-Cat]

The day Waluigi is confirmed to be a playable character is the day that I will fill my buckets with your tears and eat the flesh of those that are stupid enough to be driven to suicide over one character.

Yeah, you totally don't have problems.

 

[Oasis_S]

@LC-DDM: Or the furnace. Whatever works. I dunno why you're making a big deal out of it. They're just Waluigi supporters. They don't have feelings. In fact, I doubt they can even feel pain at all.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Waluigi shouldn't make it though if they don't plan on using him other than what he does now :/

Oh and we totally need Impa still.

 

[LC-DDM]

@LC-DDM: Or the furnace. Whatever works. I dunno why you're making a big deal out of it. They're just Waluigi supporters. They don't have feelings. In fact, I doubt they can even feel pain at all.

I hope you never breed.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I hope Waluigi never breeds... Into Smash.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

We don't need Impa at all. She's not a core character or a main one. A good addition, yes.

Really, the only main character addition that exists would be Toad right now. Dixie and King K. Rool too, mind you. And Ridley. However, his chances look slightly better, but they aren't any officially better than last time. I hope his more recent appearances gives Sakurai ideas to actually turn him into a fullblown character. Jr. is barely getting any lose, so it looks like he might be passed up.

Either way, Waluigi's only realistic competition is Dr. Mario and nothing more. Jr.? What love? Paper Mario? Not even considered. Toad... pfft. Dr. Mario? Yep, definitely would've made it in. Thus, it's pretty much between them two. So a clone(hopefully gets luigified) or an unique character? Well, one has veteran status(in Smash), although that means nothing. The other way definitely considered for playable. I'd say Doc right before Waluigi in the likeliness factor, really.

And now off to work.

 

[Pachinkosam]

@HyperFalcon- Naaaaaaaaaaaaah, I'm just your average black brotha tryin' to make it through life

Iblis is the playa lol

@yusuke- Ummm, ya think?

yes metal overlord am popular and dont be jealous.

 

[Mypantisgone]

I wonder what would a collector version of it look like.

If Mii gets in,i think there could be a choice:use things miis do in the game they are playable,use character's moveset,but if you choose a move,to keep balanced,some other move will be forbbiden(it could make your character broken to choose all the powerful moves)

But i also "alternate" moveset,you can change mario's Uspecial to wings or things like that.
Lets not forget that we can't put everything in a moveset,but as a weapon,it's possible!
Some weapons could have a different design because of the stage maybe!

 

[Deleted member]

- Lots of idiots suggesting anime characters. Doraemon, Goku, Luffy, Naruto, Ichigo were what I saw come up the most.

TBH, I'm surprised that Edward Elric wasn't one of the ones to come up the most. Isn't FMA currently the top anime?

But watch as Sakurai twists all the worldwide requests for Goku and adds Nintendo's own Goku as a Newcomer. Those requests you found, Chrono, didn't specifically state DBZ's Goku, right? Just "Goku"? If so, like a Jerkass Genie, Sakurai can twist it.

And yes, to those who are unaware, Chimchar and it's evolutions are based off of him.

@Kuma: Like I need your approval.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Yuui: Maan, that's very genius! Chao better be there somewhere then, too.

 

[Deleted member]

Yuui: Maan, that's very genius! Chao better be there somewhere then, too.

Fans of DBZ and Sonic look out; you're in for a bit of confusion.

 

[Linkshot]

You mean they aren't the same series painted differently?

Also Impa is as much of a core character in Zelda as Toad is in Mario. She is the royal guard and has always been.

 

[Deleted member]

She's only been in 4 games, as she's only in the manual in the first 2 Zelda titles.

Even if those count, that's still only 6 games out of 16, not counting remakes, the CD-i games, Link's Crossbow Training, or the Tingle games.

While she's recurring, she's not a core character by any means. There are only 3, and they are the wielders of the Triforce.

 

[Diddy Kong]

We don't need Impa at all. She's not a core character or a main one. A good addition, yes.

She was always implied to be a core character, Zelda just never had much of a story She's still better to have than Sheik, and it's the only replacement in the roster I'd welcome. But if there's a way we can have both, I guess that's better. Teacher vs pupil is a common thing in fighting games anyway.

She's only been in 4 games, as she's only in the manual in the first 2 Zelda titles.

Even if those count, that's still only 6 games out of 16, not counting remakes, the CD-i games, Link's Crossbow Training, or the Tingle games.

While she's recurring, she's not a core character by any means. There are only 3, and they are the wielders of the Triforce.

You know how many more apperances that are to the current Zelda characters?
Sheik - 1 appearance in Zelda games. Minor character as Zelda's disguise.
Ganondorf - 3 appearances in Zelda games. Major character though.
Toon Link - also around 6?? Dunno... Major character as he's Link lololol
actual Adult Link - 3 apperances. OOT, TP and SS.

Now 6 appearances sounds pretty good I say... Of which 2 appearances can be used to base a moveset on.

Really, the only main character addition that exists would be Toad right now. Dixie and King K. Rool too, mind you. And Ridley. However, his chances look slightly better, but they aren't any officially better than last time. I hope his more recent appearances gives Sakurai ideas to actually turn him into a fullblown character. Jr. is barely getting any lose, so it looks like he might be passed up.

A 3rd DKC character should take priority over Toad. Be that Dixie or K.Rool. I'd preferably have both, but if the roster doesn't grow as much to allow for 2 characters for both we'd have to be content with just one new Mario and DKC character. I'd personally wanna have King K.Rool and Toad then, mostly cause they'd be the most unique (slightly) and are the oldest characters in both their franchises (K.Rool again just slightly). But my expectations so far... It's Dixie Kong (only), Waluigi and Dr.Mario. However if they put K.Rool with those.. I'd be content actually. That's how much I want him in.

Either way, Waluigi's only realistic competition is Dr. Mario and nothing more. Jr.? What love? Paper Mario? Not even considered. Toad... pfft. Dr. Mario? Yep, definitely would've made it in. Thus, it's pretty much between them two. So a clone(hopefully gets luigified) or an unique character? Well, one has veteran status(in Smash), although that means nothing. The other way definitely considered for playable. I'd say Doc right before Waluigi in the likeliness factor, really.And now off to work.

This kinda makes me wanna go ewww.. But you see that I've considered it to.

As long as we have King K.Rool, Dixie, Mewtwo, Impa, Anthony Higgs (remember him?), Isaac and some other actual cool choices as Ridley, Little Mac and whoever I'm cool with it. Bonus points for cool retros as Takamaru and Mach Rider. Extra awesome bonus points if we get 4 playable characters for DKC, StarFox, Metroid (including ZSS), Kirby and Fire Emblem.

 

[Deleted member]

You know how many more apperances that are to the current Zelda characters?
Sheik - 1 appearance in Zelda games. Minor character as Zelda's disguise.
Ganondorf - 3 appearances in Zelda games. Major character though.
Toon Link - also around 6?? Dunno... Major character as he's Link lololol
actual Adult Link - 3 apperances. OOT, TP and SS.

Sheik = Zelda. Zelda is the wielder of the Triforce of Wisdom.
Ganondorf = Ganon. Ganon is the wielder of the Triforce of Power.
Toon Link and "Adult" Link = Link. Link is the wielder of the Triforce of Courage.

Pretty ****ty logic you got there, Diddy. As I've said, the only core characters are the wielders of the Triforce. It does not matter what form they are in.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

@Diddy I see what you did there with Anthony.

That Japanese list is really bumming me out. We need some variety, in both playstyle and character type. I'm just aghast at the idea that demand for Dr. Mario returning is too damn high.

This wouldn't be as surprising if I didn't read a bunch of claims that Smash Bros. is getting to the point that most of the characters that "need" to be in are in. There's this notion that the roster is getting bloated with obscure characters, and that is just untrue. It isn't like we're scraping the bottom of the barrel, so I don't understand why people are acting like they're content with just settling, which it seems like some are.

The day Dr. Mario returns: This is the day that we have run out of characters from Nintendo franchises to add.

 

[Kolorado]

You know how many more apperances that are to the current Zelda characters?
Sheik - 1 appearance in Zelda games. Minor character as Zelda's disguise.
Ganondorf - 3 appearances in Zelda games. Major character though.
Toon Link - also around 6?? Dunno... Major character as he's Link lololol
actual Adult Link - 3 apperances. OOT, TP and SS.

I am not opposed to Impa being in the game, but there is a flaw in your logic.

Link is the main character of the series. If you are going to get that specific about which Link is which, then the Link in Brawl only appeared in one game: Twilight Princess.

Ganondorf is the main villain of the series. He may take different forms in different games, but it is still Ganon. I just assume that making human Ganon playable was easier than making beast Ganon playable.

Sheik is not treated as an individual character. She is only part of Zelda's character. Yes, she has her own moveset, but she doesn't get her own character slot.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Sheik = Zelda. Zelda is the wielder of the Triforce of Wisdom.
Ganondorf = Ganon. Ganon is the wielder of the Triforce of Power.
Toon Link and "Adult" Link = Link. Link is the wielder of the Triforce of Courage.

Pretty ****ty logic you got there, Diddy. As I've said, the only core characters are the wielders of the Triforce. It does not matter what form they are in.

Exactly a good explanation why we only really need those 3.

Meaning: Link, Zelda and Ganondorf.

Emphasise on the part of making them actually good. :/

CUZ THEY ALL SUK!

In case it wasn't noticed...

Keeping parts of the movesets of Sheik and Toon Link through Impa and merging Toon Link with Link would be a big plus. But I mainly want the main 3 to become functional with their own movesets. All 3 characters felt like halfly finished in Brawl, and it shows. :/

 

[Metal Overlord]

Didn't I tell y'all Waluigi is a bad word?

 

[Big-Cat]

TBH, I'm surprised that Edward Elric wasn't one of the ones to come up the most. Isn't FMA currently the top anime?

Both the manga and the second anime ended in the summer of 2010. I doubt it's the top right now.

@Kuma: Like I need your approval.

Nobody needs your attitude.

@Diddy
You could say that for the entire game. The SSE having an entirely different feel compared to the rest of the game is evidence of that.

 

[Johnknight1]

This means...what?

All their fanbases are small Toad, Bowser Jr., Waluigi (it is mostly concentrated at GameFAQs), Paper Mario Ghirahim, Impa, and Tingle.

Andross is better suited as a boss. He was an Assist.

I dunno about that. He would be in the background. He could be a great boss (especially if you fought his brain), but I think he is a better (background) assist trophy character.

I'm sorry, but that is just....stupid, no offense. Ridley being a boss twice wouldn't have anything to do with Jr. In fact, it would make more sense for Jr. to be PLAYABLE at that point while helping out Papa carry out his mission.
Ridley being a boss twice is more likely to give Metroid it's due because he initially felt there were no options for a 2nd Metroid character (which is where Zamus came into the picture). Remember that at first, he said Ridley being playable would have been impossible.

Sakurai wouldn't have enough time to make another boss (and yes, Sakurai was also giving Metroid its' due thanks to lack of characters and forgettable music in Brawl). Sakurai already spent a crap ton of time on generic bosses.

While I respect your opinion, it'd be better not to say that Toad, Jr., and Waluigi have no chances as if it were fact. Making claims like that will get you in trouble, as it's done me in the past.

I stated "I think" which means these aren't my opinions. I also said they all have a shot, but I don't see them having a very good shot. If people don't like my opinions, tough, but they are merely my opinions. That's the difference with what you said and I said. I said "I think," whereas you didn't say any such thing.

Guess he certainly knows Mac's, Isaac's, Saki's, and Starfy's places as well.

They are the stars of their respective games/franchises. Waluigi isn't. All Waluigi has been is "one of the guys" in Mario spin-offs. Little Mac has starred in several games. Issac starred in one game, arguably co-starred another game, and is the unofficial mascot of his franchise (like Marth and Fire Emblem). Saki is the star of his franchise, and Sin and Punishment's unofficial mascot. Starfy is the franchise's name! That's the way I see it. If you don't see it that way, that's cool.

How, exactly? Whatever Jr. has done outside the Paintbrush is just a weaker form of Bowser Sr., who's playable. Also bear in mind that all the bosses have size going for them, with Meta Ridley being the smallest. Jr., even in his Klown Kar, is tiny compared to them. Assist would be fine.

I thought that the Bowser Jr. boss battles in NEW SMB/Galaxy/ Galaxy 2 were great. I thoroughly enjoyed them. I think they could translate very well in smash.

Then people should not expect any ATs to become playable. They have clearly found their places. Or Ridley. Or Toad. Or Palutena. Or any SF character.

The difference IMO is that Ridley is the Samus' rival (he actually appears in more Metroid games than Ganondorf does in the Legend of Zelda with a similar role). Toad is a longtime helper in the canon games that sell like hotcakes. Paletuna is the second main character. Street Fighter characters can stay the heck out!

If this is true, then Banjo-Kazooie may have a shot for Sm4sh, albiet only for the 3DS version.

I would piss my pants with excitement if this happened.

Also Golden, I think your comment on the suicide buckets Waluigi comments was a little overboard man. You should just make a "Waluigi haters got owned" video like I did after Diddy Kong was confirmed in Brawl!

Would've been the best thing in Brawl since Diddy's inclusion... 2 extra characters from my favorite series + Mewtwo? Would've rocked my socks.

Exactly. Roy, Mewtwo, and Dixie Kong would be great additions to Brawl.

Also, Toon Link is considered the representation (by Sakurai) of the child incarnation of Link, which means he has been in all but 2 Zelda game in Sakurai's mind.

Also guys, we don't "need" anyone in smash, period.

 

[Big-Cat]

Except Ridley.

 

[Metal Overlord]

It's kinda silly to say that we don't "need" any characters in Smash, lol. That's pretty obvious seeing as we don't need a new Smash game, either, hell, we don't even need to play Smash games or even video games in general

 

[Big-Cat]

We don't even need to live. We'll all just rot in the ground in the end.

 

[Conviction]

We don't need to be stupid.

Next topic.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Leon from Resident Evil also have quite a bit of support

I'm okay with this

 

[Baskerville]

Quite a few Capcom characters have quite a bit of support.

 

[Diddy Kong]

We don't need to be stupid.

Next topic.

Lolling @ this

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

So anyway... What'd I miss?

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It's also my birthday today. Hooray!

 

[Metal Overlord]

Happy Birthday Poppy

Oh, and, uh, Diddy, you have no room to talk

 

[Metal Overlord]

EDIT: Whoops, double post, sorry about that, I thought the post didn't go through at first

 

[Mypantisgone]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY POPPY

Any ideas about what would the collector edition have/be?(if there is one)

And for random...how do i had an avatar?