New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Conviction]

I got the "Looks who is popular" error thing. :-/

 

[Metal Overlord]

Wait, the link doesn't work?

 

[Starphoenix]

Yeah, Masterpieces are the real deal. Could have been used for something better.

Actually the entire masterpiece collection is just a drop in the bucket when you look at the size of the game. Brawl is a dual layered Wii disc, which holds approximately 8gb of data. The Masterpiece collection, as I stated, is about 48mb. That brings the total percentage of space the Masterpiece collection consumed at 0.6%, and it probably did not take much time to implement either. Considering the games are left in their entirety with only a time limit in place this is likely valid.

 

[---]

Actually the entire masterpiece collection is just a drop in the bucket when you look at the size of the game. Brawl is a dual layered Wii disc, which holds approximately 8gb of data. The Masterpiece collection, as I stated, is about 48mb. That brings the total percentage of space the Masterpiece collection consumed at 0.6%, and it probably did not take much time to implement either. Considering the games are left in their entirety with only a time limit in place this is likely valid.

I'm a retro gamer and am also not a computer wiz, so forgive me if I find that to be amazing.

 

[Conviction]

Wait, the link doesn't work?

Nah it doesn't

Actually the entire masterpiece collection is just a drop in the bucket when you look at the size of the game. Brawl is a dual layered Wii disc, which holds approximately 8gb of data. The Masterpiece collection, as I stated, is about 48mb. That brings the total percentage of space the Masterpiece collection consumed at 0.6%, and it probably did not take much time to implement either. Considering the games are left in their entirety with only a time limit in place this is likely valid.

So we couldn't have used that for another character or stage? That's what I'm getting at, but wow that is a small amount.

 

[Aurane]

Actually the entire masterpiece collection is just a drop in the bucket when you look at the size of the game. Brawl is a dual layered Wii disc, which holds approximately 8gb of data. The Masterpiece collection, as I stated, is about 48mb. That brings the total percentage of space the Masterpiece collection consumed at 0.6%, and it probably did not take much time to implement either. Considering the games are left in their entirety with only a time limit in place this is likely valid.

Can't you hack'em so that you can play for as long as you want?

 

[Conviction]

Yeah, you can. I guess the data is really small on modern gaming.

 

[Starphoenix]

So we couldn't have used that for another character or stage? That's what I'm getting at, but wow that is a small amount.

I do not know what the filesizes are for stages or characters, but chances are considering how actually small the Masterpiece collection is I am going to say no. I know it is easy to look at it and think it is a bloated feature that consumed time from a more worthy endeavor, but in truth that likely was not the case.

@Tri-Hy: It reaally is not that hard to figure this stuff out. A basic level of mathematics and research will derive the same results

Can't you hack'em so that you can play for as long as you want?

Yes.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Try it now- http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s404/metacooler648/smh.gif

I wonder if the Wii U's VC will include all the games that the original Wii VC had?

 

[Conviction]

Ah, so it's that small huh? I think it's time for me try to sleep again

and Metal thats out there yo lol

 

[Aurane]

Yeah, you can. I guess the data is really small on modern gaming.

Yes.

Ah, ok. I still don't wanna see them return, though. How much space does a character take?

 

[Starphoenix]

Question, what third party series have Nintendo actually developed a title for? Publishing is one thing, but development is another. The only ones that come to mind are Pacman Vs., Tetris DS, and Dragon Quest Wars. Any others out there? Just curious.

 

[---]

@Tri-Hy: It reaally is not that hard to figure this stuff out. A basic level of mathematics and research will derive the same results.

Well that makes me feel bad.

 

[yani]

@Asage good job getting it for 5 bucks!! Talk about a steal!

@Metal I'm sure they will carry to Wii-U, DSi did carry over to 3DS, so hopefully the same happens

 

[Conviction]

@Tri: Don't feel bad yo, Math is my best subject and well I didn't get a thing

 

[Metal Overlord]

I thought the gif was kinda amusing. Well at least I tried haha

Yeah, I should probably get going, too, though, low key

 

[Aurane]

@Asage good job getting it for 5 bucks!! Talk about a steal!

I was blowned by the price. After I bought it, I picked on him for a lil' bit Lol but hey, his decision, not mine.

New avatar. I need sleep. My throat hurts now XD

And I'll have my art shop maybe running tomarrow. I decided: It'll be based off Maplestory sprites as Avatars and Userbars.

 

[---]

Actually I'm rather good at Math, so it's more or less the fact that I don't know anything about computers.

 

[ChronoBound]

Question, what third party series have Nintendo actually developed a title for? Publishing is one thing, but development is another. The only ones that come to mind are Pacman Vs., Tetris DS, and Dragon Quest Wars. Any others out there? Just curious.

Does Popeye count?

I also think there were Game & Watch games for Mickey Mouse and Snoopy, though I am not sure whether Nintendo developed them.

 

[Big-Cat]

You guys might be happy to know that it looks like Capcom might've taken another page from Smash Bros. for Street Fighter X Tekken. There's gonna be a post-release patch (which is free) that lets you transfer your gem and control setups via USB and Brawl let you transfer names via the Wiimote.
http://shoryuken.com/2012/02/14/sfx...in-tournament-mode-through-usb-memory-device/

I'm gonna have to get myself a USB hub though as my 360 has only three USB ports.

 

[Starphoenix]

Well that makes me feel bad.

I didn't mean it that way.

Just think of it like this. First off we know the games on Brawls disc are full games. Okay, that is a pretty good place to start. To begin calculating the file size search with the tags "virtual console block size" in Google. There will be web pages that list the block sizes for each Virtual Console title that appears in Brawl, minus the two Japanese exclusive games. The website might also list what how many block sizes equal a megabyte (8-1mb). Tally the total number of block sizes and divide by eight. After that do another search for "dual layered Wii disc size". Once you have the disc size take your first number (VC games) and divide that by the disc size. The result of that will be multiplied by one hundred to reach the percentage of file space used by the Masterpiece games.

 

[---]

@Star: Well I guess I just have to put some effort into learning about stuff like that. Which is funny as it's never really crossed my mind until now. Thanks for the info.

Well I gotta go to bed, later.

 

[Starphoenix]

@Star: Well I guess I just have to put some effort into learning about stuff like that. Which is funny as it's never really crossed my mind until now. Thanks for the info.

Well I gotta go to bed, later.

No problem, I am not trying to belittle you, but actually trying to teach you a life lesson (don't ask me why). Something you will learn in college, as I have, is there will be times you will need to proactively research a topic further in order to develop the best understanding on whatever you might be learning or discussing. Developing the ability to research information on the internet is a huge skill boost for classes.

You likely know all this already, so don't mind me. lol

 

[grizby2]

so i was just playing brawl earlier and just remembered how much i HATE tripping (weather it saves my life or not). i remember my first experience with this....
i was at my friends house trying out brawl for the first time! i was playing as luigi, then randomly fell. i thought it was something my friend purposely did to me, "maybe it was some type of move?" i thought. it happened again in the next match. i asked him how i sometimes trip and he simply stated "it just happens while moving sometimes"
hearing that just made me have nightmares of 's ,
anyway, heres hoping that we can toggle it on/off for ssb4..that or get rid of it altogether.

(or am i the only one that sees random tripping as a horrible fighting-game mechanic?)

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Nah, it's a bad mechanic.

Everybody would gladly throw a switch. Hell, if we could legally use cheat devices, all tourneys would have Tripping off.

Nobody likes it(not even casuals). Okay, there's some stragglers, but 99% of the people...

I want it a toggle. Because it's actually fun if you want chaos.

 

[grizby2]

Nah, it's a bad mechanic.

Everybody would gladly throw a switch. Hell, if we could legally use cheat devices, all tourneys would have Tripping off.

Nobody likes it(not even casuals). Okay, there's some stragglers, but 99% of the people...

I want it a toggle. Because it's actually fun if you want chaos.

thats what i thought too! it'd be the ONLY hack i'd use.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

thats what i thought too! it'd be the ONLY hack i'd use.

Eh, I'd include Textures too.

It's just honestly too bad it's illegal and all.

Although to be fair, a gameplay-changing hack is hard to make consistent tourneys for. People would sneak codes in, not everybody has the materials, and some are actual purists and refuse to use cheat codes.

I don't personally care, but I directly care about consistency overall.

 

[ChronoBound]

I think the Toad fanbase is really quiet. In various topics, I see a lot of whining about Toad being bland, however, in Shortie's poll Toad has by far the most votes of any Mario character.

Also, regardless of what forum I post a "what Mario newcomer you would like to see" question on, its almost always very, very divided with no leader at all (more often simply a three-way tie).

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Who was the three-way with?

I'm guessing Toad, Waluigi, and Paper Mario, since they're the most recent.

 

[grizby2]

I think the Toad fanbase is really quiet. In various topics, I see a lot of whining about Toad being bland, however, in Shortie's poll Toad has by far the most votes of any Mario character.

Also, regardless of what forum I post a "what Mario newcomer you would like to see" question on, its almost always very, very divided with no leader at all (more often simply a three-way tie).

i love toad, however i think theres already a surplus of mario characters in smash bros. as it is. (plus wouldn't adding toad kill peaches counter move? seeing how she kinda pulls him out and tosses him aside.)

but the addition of a new mario character is (i would say) pretty darn likely to happen.
also, im curious. how exactly would toad fight?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

People made some really nice movesets before, even referencing New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Albeit, that came out after Brawl, so...

I'd say Toad's changes are MUCH better now.

Anyway, just give Peach Toadette or Toadsworth. Or just have it be a generic Toad.

 

[redfeatherraven]

Nah, it's a bad mechanic.

Everybody would gladly throw a switch. Hell, if we could legally use cheat devices, all tourneys would have Tripping off.

Nobody likes it(not even casuals). Okay, there's some stragglers, but 99% of the people...

I want it a toggle. Because it's actually fun if you want chaos.

I agree for a random tripping toggle, but I personally hope move-induced tripping is here to stay. I admit it adds an interesting strategic angle.

 

[grizby2]

so wait, theres a toad NAMED "toad"? i always thought Toad WAS a generic toad...

oh hold on, according to the mario wiki "He is actually a singular character among an entire species of look-alikes (much like the Yoshi is to the Yoshi species)."

.. well thats confusing!
hmmm, i suppose they'd give him the blue vest (though technically the orange vest was the original color, different colors for toad i guess)

 

[Berserker.]

so wait, theres a toad NAMED "toad"? i always thought Toad WAS a generic toad...

oh hold on, according to the mario wiki "He is actually a singular character among an entire species of look-alikes (much like the Yoshi is to the Yoshi species)."

.. well thats confusing!
hmmm, i suppose they'd give him the blue vest (though technically the orange vest was the original color, different colors for toad i guess)

Toad is a toad -.-

He is one character and he is the toad named Toad. He's like the specific Toad you platedjdoafmksmlcsl---- ****, I mixed up myself like how Vipers mix up themselves in SF and MvC.

 

[Pichu Fan]

I was bored so I'm looking at shorties current poll results, aNd here are the newcomers with the most votes in each section-

Mario-Toad
DK- King K. Rool
Wario- Ashley
Yoshi-Kamek
Zelda- Ghirahim
Kirby- (Bandana) Waddle Dee
Pokemon- Mewtwo
Metroid- Ridley
Starfox- Krystal
FZero- Samurai Goroh
Fire Emblem- Roy
Earthbound- Claus
Kid Icarus- Medusa
Smaller Franchises- Little Mac
Third Party- Mega Man

 

[LC-DDM]

You're speaking to a Halo fan as you say that. I should fire 10 thousand needles from a needler at you and watch you explode as you keep bouncing in midair.

Spoiler

Joking.

I never said the Halo series was bad though

(Though in all honestly I can only stomach the first game since it's a really good one.)

What about a Zangief one? Wait, no, I bet he's got Bowser for that one.

No, Zangief is also over DK.

>Implying that getting a new B move would be worth losing Sheik.
>Failing to imply that Zelda and Sheik could work the same way that he proposes Pokemon Trainer should work.
>Failing to imply that another command to switch Zelda and Sheik would be better.

The only one I could see fine seperate is Samus and Zamus. Zamus is treated like she's her own character anyway.

I'd say replace the left D-pad's taunt ability to change between Zelda/Sheik and Pokémon. They get a new Down-B without losing anything of importance.

I still want someone other than Samurai Goroh or Black Shadow to be the second F-Zero rep

But Black Shadow could be the Brawl Ganondorf...

And 4th Ganon gets more moves that involves HIS SWORD. >:V

This thread currently:

I can't believe I actually had to use this again

I still say Wii U should get interactive porn.

Maybe some extra content after rescuing Peach? :3

 

[grizby2]

I was bored so I'm looking at shorties current poll results, aNd here are the newcomers with the most votes in each section-

Mario-Toad
DK- King K. Rool
Wario- Ashley
Yoshi-Kamek
Zelda- Ghirahim
Kirby- (Bandana) Waddle Dee
Pokemon- Mewtwo
Metroid- Ridley
Starfox- Krystal
FZero- Samurai Goroh
Fire Emblem- Roy
Earthbound- Claus
Kid Icarus- Medusa
Smaller Franchises- Little Mac
Third Party- Mega Man

......i would trust gamers to know what good ideas are, but ...
sigh...
Ridley is... how should i put this, the size of TEXAS.
I mean did players NOT see Ridley in brawl?! I know Bowser can be huge in some games, but hes got an average size now'a days. Ridley IS a handsome side of beefcake.. but REALLY though?

even if we COULD make Ridley smaller, it just wouldn't be "Ridley" anymore

 

[plokoon9619]

......i would trust gamers to know what good ideas are, but ...
sigh...
Ridley is... how should i put this, the size of TEXAS.
I mean did players NOT see Ridley in brawl?! I know Bowser can be huge in some games, but hes got an average size now'a days. Ridley IS a handsome side of beefcake.. but REALLY though?

even if we COULD make Ridley smaller, it just wouldn't be "Ridley" anymore

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K7eV5SiJ50

Looks like Ridley to me...

 

[grizby2]

Toad is a toad -.-

He is one character and he is the toad named Toad. He's like the specific Toad you platedjdoafmksmlcsl---- ****, I mixed up myself like how Vipers mix up themselves in SF and MvC.

ok i get it. if i asked for the real toad to please stand up, he would do so, waving his wittle hand, with that bright sun-shiney smile~

 

[grizby2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K7eV5SiJ50

Looks like Ridley to me...

lets give ridley a meteor smash while we're at it