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No way Lucas would be cut for Poo. I am a huge fan of EarthBound and Poo is no more significant than Paula or Jeff. Fun fact: Poo's fanbase was basically the forerunner to the Geno one.
Chrome, that's who I was thinking of. I forgot his name. As for Poo, I care not for his popularity, fan base, or relevance. I just think he'd have an interesting playstyle...and on another note I want the VO actor to facepalm when reading his script.
Are you sure on this part? If I recall correctly, Sakarai wanted to replace Ness with Lucas in Melee but didn't happened since Earthbound 64 was canceled (which that game later turned into the GBA game Mother 3).
lol wut? Where did you hear this?
Fredy Krueger isn't enough?
Sakurai wanted Ninten instead of Ness in Smash 64, not 100% sure but I believe he left it up to people at Hal while he started work on the game. He never really liked Ness but still he hasn't been cut and there's not really any proof right now to say otherwise.
Or in other words, Oasis_S. The Smelliest in the whole world.This game's winner is... POO
This is my mega roster of ultimate completeness.
This, is a complete Smash. End of story.
70 characters.
Sorry HOasis, I would have added him, but, I forgot >: And I would have thrown out Chibi robo for him.
lol, you talking about Pokemon over rep, is hilarious. The point of the roster was to be oversized, that's the point. To get every character I deemed (Plus a few extras like Ghirahim, Geno, and Dark Samus) worthy into one roster. And no, almost none of these characters are facepalm worthy, you're just, well you know.
Ewww. Mona and Porky are much better choices than Waluigi and Adam Malkovich... But Zoroark over Tini is fine. I don't care.
Nope.
Speak for yourself. I LOVE THAT GAME.A Tiny, Lanky, Chunky tag team sort of seems like a waste....I mean, DK64 isn't really that well liked, so it seems odd to put in all that effort just to bring its cast back together. That and the fact that the only one anyone cares about of those three is Lanky.
Already addressed that. That's the point.
He's still important to his series, no matter what you think. Plus, I added Porky.
Nope. Get out of here.
Second most reaccuring villain, she/he is a good choice in some respects. Also, like clones matter?
No matter what Sakurai says, Animal crossing should be represented, and so I picked Nook.
I've already said it, but those two were two of my, just add for fun characters. They have a fanbase, and since I'm purposely making a giant roster, I added them.I also question the inclusion of Geno and Ghirahim, (Geno would be great, but Nintendo and Square are ignoring him way too much these days), Ghirahim again would be like another Midna/Zant/Vaati ( (-;^;-) )-type one-shot character. Even Impa with her own moveset and not replacing Sheik would seem more fitting since she's also one of some prominent LOZ-characters... unless Ghirahim will be picked up again for another LOZ-game.
But still, I'd give in my money for this roster that actually includes EVERY of my most wished characters.
I guess at the end of the day Brawl is pritty complete I have to agree to that but the more characters the more new experiences there are to be had. I always felt the more characters and levels there are the longer a game can stay fresh and feel like a new experience. I love smash as much as anyone here but the funnest part is exploring the game when it has just come out try out all the new little things they added.
By complete though, I mean, every series has their major characters in the game, which, Brawl did not. So yeah, I suppose that we do have different senses of complete. Not that I ever expect Smash to be complete by my standards of course. This is just what I think is complete, with a few extras tacked on.
I feel bit same, though some series would feel better if completed bit more (Toad, Dixie, King K.Rool, etc)
The only characters that need to absolutely be in Smash Bros. at this point are Ridley and Little Mac. I think Toad, K. Rool, and Dixie Kong are all very important but are a tier below those two. However, those are the only true newcomers I consider on the same level as the additions from previous Smash Bros. games (though a case could be made for Bowser Jr. and Paper Mario). I think Miis are also very important, but I am unsure whether Sakurai has already ruled them out, if not, then they are definitely on the same level as Ridley and Little Mac.I feel bit same, though some series would feel better if completed bit more (Toad, Dixie, King K.Rool, etc)
I wouldn't mind if that's Sakurai's plan for Smash 4. I want a sequel, not an expansion.
No, that would be horrible. Melee at least had a few characters that were unpopular with casuals. With Brawl all of the characters were pretty much well-received. Also, much of Brawl's roster are most notable and well known Nintendo characters than most of the characters that are not already in Smash Bros.
I kinda see your point but really then they could just add all those new characters they would have added if they droped a ton and keep all the dropped characters too and have this giant huge line up to keep the game new and exciting with match-up's never really being the same for years to come. The more characters there are the more new experiences there are to be had. I also sorta like the idea of getting rewarded for playing the game more with a upgrade system the mentioned in a link a whiles ago but I honestly don't know how they would implement it without it making the game unfair I do think it would add a very new experience however
Agreed bit there, though Paper Mario sounds great, but would easily overshadow the real Mario. (Maybe because how Intelligent Systems are being acclaimed around the world for evolving Mario-characters and the universe. Peach also NEVER sucks in Paper Mario, she's actually the total opposite on Miyamoto's Damsel In Distress/Only Lovable Under Pathetic SigurdHosenfield-fans-Peach )
I do believe that Ridley, Little Mac, Toad, King K. Rool, and Dixie Kong should be in Smash 4, too. They are very popular and have a long history within their respective series.
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So, basically keep all the old characters but change their movesets every time we get a new Smash game just to make them feel new and not stagnant?
I know what you mean, but at the same time, Lucas and Ness have extremely similar specials as well, even their different normal B moves are pretty darn similar when you get to know them. In any case, I play both of them, and i know that from the small differences in their movesets, their meta games are amazingly different. You wouldn't BELIEVE how different they play.
This is my concern with Smash 4 as well. Even Sakurai has said that you can't just keep adding to the old content. It's just not a good thing to do. So combine this with my controversial mechanics ideas, this game is the perfect time for a reboot, or rather, rebirth of sorts..
At least we got Ibuki, Dudley, Makoto, Yun, and Yang in SF4 with possibly Elena in SFxTK if the rumors are true.
Don't think of it too much in relevance, but just in gameplay diversity. I'm gonna try this out for a 40 character roster, disregarding the current rosters.
I quite agree with you when you get into competitive terms the characters are all quite different but we all know smash bros tends to give way to casual players first and competitive second and people coming from the outside might question why all the characters from starfox play the similar especially since it is all the starfox characters and there are three too.I know what you mean, but at the same time, Lucas and Ness have extremely similar specials as well, even their different normal B moves are pretty darn similar when you get to know them. In any case, I play both of them, and i know that from the small differences in their movesets, their meta games are amazingly different. You wouldn't BELIEVE how different they play.
Basically, I've always just assumed that Fox, Falco and Wolf would be the same. Although your point about making the starfox franchise look bad is kinda valid, but then again, I've never looked down on the starfox franchise for having 3 clones, just as I don't look down on the mario series, nor the Mother series, or the Zelda series etc.
Also, @ Omega: I agree, although I want a remake of MK 64.
Also, sorry to interrupt the discussion guys! D:
And star went back to Staraptor avatar, yay! :D
Cool, a Balloon Fighter fan. I bought Tingle's Balloon Fight last summer, and how do you feel about Tingle becoming the spiritual successor to Balloon Fighter? If he was in Smash, Tingle would undoubtably use moves akin to Balloon Fight. How would you feel about him getting in, and playing similar to how Balloon Fighter would?
You would have to mature to not care so much about who people want based on your subjective criteria.
Meh, I like the Balloon Fighter character as he is. It wouldn't have the same ring to it if Tingle took his place. I like Tingle (his Freshly Picked Rosy Rupeeland game is fun) but my heart still goes to the Balloon Fighter.
Thankfully not all my games were stolen). I'm still deciding if I should buy it again or just use my R4 to play it.
