New Smash Bros for WiiU

Verde Coeden Scalesworth · Jan 31, 2012

asage94 said:
Mentionin' the Polygon Cave... That reminded me of a stage idea I had a few weeks ago. I'll pull it up later.

But anyways, yeah. Like how Jump- Oh, excuse me, MARIO, stole Donkey Kong's crown. Yes, I still believe DK should be the mascot of Nintendo

@Metal I, personally, found it more fighty. But it was remixed with the Theme song of SSBB... like all the other songs

I don't mind having either one in. I just want my Metal music. And yeah, I loved the courses in SSB64, all of them. I wish I could say the same for the other two.

Actually, some believe that Jumpman is Mario's Father/Grandfather. Oddly enough.

Anyway, yeah, let's also note for a time, Link got some huge increase in popularity, almost being close to being Nintendo's Mascot. Atleast, that's what I heard.

Aurane · Jan 31, 2012

HyperFalcon said:
Actually, some believe that Jumpman is Mario's Father/Grandfather. Oddly enough.

Anyway, yeah, let's also note for a time, Link got some huge increase in popularity, almost being close to being Nintendo's Mascot. Atleast, that's what I heard.

Eh, the rumor is the same with DK. Wait, no... it was comfirmed by Otacon Lol

Link is still popular. The way I see it, if Mario loses popularity, Link could steal his spot in a heartbeat.

Verde Coeden Scalesworth · Jan 31, 2012

asage94 said:
Eh, the rumor is the same with DK. Wait, no... it was comfirmed by Otacon Lol

Link is still popular. The way I see it, if Mario loses popularity, Link could steal his spot in a heartbeat.

I honestly think Pikachu or DK has first dibs now. Or even Kirby.

Samus has no chance in comparison. Or Ness.

Diddy Kong · Jan 31, 2012

asage94 said:
But anyways, yeah. Like how Jump- Oh, excuse me, MARIO, stole Donkey Kong's crown. Yes, I still believe DK should be the mascot of Nintendo

Metal Overlord · Jan 31, 2012

Aurane · Jan 31, 2012

HyperFalcon said:
I honestly think Pikachu or DK has first dibs now. Or even Kirby.

Samus has no chance in comparison. Or Ness.

You know, now that I think of it, Pokemon is very popular... How do sales as of this year stand for Nintendo? Like, the money value of Mario, LoZ, Pokemon, etc.?

@Diddy Kong
*Bro Pawnch*

@Metal Overlord
All great songs... Like I said, the music from Pokemon XD and Colleseum are very popular, and so were the games.

Pieman0920 · Jan 31, 2012

Looking at the most recent Kid Icarus Uprising trailer, I can't help but get a Smash vibe from it, but that's probably just Sakurai's art direction. Still it makes me think twice about trying to make a analyzation about certain things like the menus, given how Air Ride was a clear transition between Melee and Brawl's. Thus KIU may very well prove the same, since its menus are clearly Brawl-esque.

Also I wonder if the Intensity feature will be implemented in some form. Its already sort of there in Melee and Brawl, but not really.

Diddy Kong · Jan 31, 2012

Mario>Pokemon>>Zelda>Donkey Kong

In terms of sales. Zelda only topped DK when Rare left however, though I'll admit OOT was slightly superior to DK64.

Aurane · Jan 31, 2012

Diddy Kong said:
Mario>Pokemon>>Zelda>Donkey Kong

In terms of sales. Zelda only topped DK when Rare left however, though I'll admit OOT was slightly superior to DK64.

Ah, Ok, thanks... Wait, Pokemon's in FRONT of Zelda? Holy crap... I didn't see that coming due to Skyward Sword...

OoT was a VERY popular game, so I don't doubt that. I didn't really like DK64, anyways.

Diddy Kong · Jan 31, 2012

I liked DK64, but could never 100% it due to it having terrible mini games. Beaver Brother... My Lord.

Yeah, Pokemon is higher than Zelda, and I think its always been like that basically. It's much more closer to Mario than Zelda in sales to. I don't know the numbers, but someone posted it some time here.

Metal Overlord · Jan 31, 2012

Pokemon's overall sales worldwide?

Last I checked, it was like 210 million

Big-Cat · Jan 31, 2012

Pieman0920 said:
Looking at the most recent Kid Icarus Uprising trailer, I can't help but get a Smash vibe from it, but that's probably just Sakurai's art direction. Still it makes me think twice about trying to make a analyzation about certain things like the menus, given how Air Ride was a clear transition between Melee and Brawl's. Thus KIU may very well prove the same, since its menus are clearly Brawl-esque.

Also I wonder if the Intensity feature will be implemented in some form. Its already sort of there in Melee and Brawl, but not really.

The art direction bugs me slightly in that he isn't exactly trying something new (but the promo art is dazzling). We'll have to wait and see though what Sm4sh will look like. Just so long as it's not the desaturated look of Brawl. Thankfully, Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, and Metroid have gone for more saturated color pallets so there's hope on that end.

I would put more analysis into the mechanics and the intensity levels as well. I wonder if the intensity levels could be turned into combo trials in Sm4sh where clearing the harder ones will give you stuff like costumes and unlockable characters. Glad to see, though, that Sakurai isn't scrubbing out Kid Icarus like many will say about Brawl.

Diddy Kong · Jan 31, 2012

It looks tight so far, seriously considering getting a 3DS when I got the cash.

That's saying something, cause I've been dead broke ever since I started posting here.

Aurane · Jan 31, 2012

Diddy Kong said:
I liked DK64, but could never 100% it due to it having terrible mini games. Beaver Brother... My Lord.

Yeah, Pokemon is higher than Zelda, and I think its always been like that basically. It's much more closer to Mario than Zelda in sales to. I don't know the numbers, but someone posted it some time here.

God, the minigames... I miss DKC

It's just surprising. I know Pokemon's popular, but I thought LoZ would be above them.

Anyways, lookin' online for songs. Got a few:

VS Rayquaza
VS Suicune
VS Ho-Oh
VS Lugia (My favorite out of HG & SS)
VS Lakebed Pokemon
VS Mewtwo (Pokemon Rumble)

Verde Coeden Scalesworth · Jan 31, 2012

@Asage: Pokemon and Mario is played by all ages. This is mainly why it's some of the best selling.

Not everybody likes that the Zelda games are closer to playing a JRPG with the only difference being an Action-Adventure gameplay. As for DK, it's getting there with a new game, so we'll see. DKCR was a great start.

Aurane · Jan 31, 2012

HyperFalcon said:
@Asage: Pokemon and Mario is played by all ages. This is mainly why it's some of the best selling.

Not everybody likes that the Zelda games are closer to playing a JRPG with the only difference being an Action-Adventure gameplay. As for DK, it's getting there with a new game, so we'll see. DKCR was a great start.

Mmm... I see.

Is that so? Well, then we need a Zelda Party :cool:

Verde Coeden Scalesworth · Jan 31, 2012

asage94 said:
Mmm... I see.

Is that so? Well, then we need a Zelda Party

Tetra's Trackers never made it out. :/ And arguably, Four Swords Adventures came somewhat close with the mini-games.

Diddy Kong · Jan 31, 2012

I have to hold in a comment now about Zelda Party... I really do.

Aurane · Jan 31, 2012

HyperFalcon said:
Tetra's Trackers never made it out. :/ And arguably, Four Swords Adventures came somewhat close with the mini-games.

You mean the game that never came to America? With the talking Tetra? That irritated me SO badly

Anyways, think about a Mario Party-LoZ style.

Characters:
Link (SS), Ganondorf, Zelda (SS), Shiek, Impa, Tetra, Toon Link, Young Link, Saria, Malon, and Vaati.
Unlockables:
Ghirahim, Dark Link, Link (1st Game), and Zant

Lol anymore?

Diddy Kong · Jan 31, 2012

Walink?

Verde Coeden Scalesworth · Jan 31, 2012

asage94 said:
You mean the game that never came to America? With the talking Tetra? That irritated me SO badly

Anyways, think about a Mario Party-LoZ style.

Characters:
Link (SS), Ganondorf, Zelda (SS), Shiek, Impa, Tetra, Toon Link, Young Link, Saria, Malon, and Vaati.
Unlockables:
Ghirahim, Dark Link, Link (1st Game), and Zant

Lol anymore?

I want a Zelda Fighting game, too. And Zelda Kart. Epona in a Go-Kart, yes, very much yes.

Oh, right, No Export For You. That's very stupid. I wanted the Tingle games too.

Diddy Kong · Jan 31, 2012

No, please no. No Zelda Party, no Zelda Kart or Zelda Tennis / Golf / whatever.

Sheik would then be the next Waluigi lol

Aurane · Jan 31, 2012

Diddy Kong said:
No, please no. No Zelda Party, no Zelda Kart or Zelda Tennis / Golf / whatever.

Sheik would then be the next Waluigi lol

Why not? Make it fit the time periods of the Links, and it'd be great.

Also, I forgot to add Mido and Minda.

The only Waluigi in there would be a mix of Waluigi and Wario: Tingle.

Verde Coeden Scalesworth · Jan 31, 2012

asage94 said:
Why not? Make it fit the time periods of the Links, and it'd be great.

Also, I forgot to add Mido and Minda.

The only Waluigi in there would be a mix of Waluigi and Wario: Tingle.

Shiek cannot be a Waluigi. She can only be a Daisy. Waluigi does not exist in the main games(and has a reference strictly in one RPG, and Luigi has always had a blue costume just like Mario still has a yellow costume, both referencing the obvious) and cannot be compared.

King Harkinian from the CD-i games would be the Waluigi of the series.

I would love to see Sheik in them. And frankly, they'd be awesome and get tons of sales. It would also be a Zelda game where you could play as anyone besides(technically) your animal partners and Link. That's automatically awesome. I want to play as Pig Ganon and Ganondorf(all three versions).

OmegaXXII · Jan 31, 2012

Pichu Fan said:
This thread needs less impa,

and more pichu

Gosh, how did this whole Impa business and Sheik "not returning" came about? Man, who brought it up? :/

Aurane · Jan 31, 2012

HyperFalcon said:
Shiek cannot be a Waluigi. She can only be a Daisy. Waluigi does not exist in the main games(and has a reference strictly in one RPG, and Luigi has always had a blue costume just like Mario still has a yellow costume, both referencing the obvious) and cannot be compared.

King Harkinian from the CD-i games would be the Waluigi of the series.

I would love to see Sheik in them. And frankly, they'd be awesome and get tons of sales. It would also be a Zelda game where you could play as anyone besides(technically) your animal partners and Link. That's automatically awesome. I want to play as Pig Ganon and Ganondorf(all three versions).

CD-I has no soul. It gets no respect... Except in YPs Lol

♛SuperOmega™ said:
Gosh, how did this whole Impa business and Sheik "not returning" came about? Man, who brought it up? :/

*stares at Diddy Kong*

Verde Coeden Scalesworth · Jan 31, 2012

asage94 said:
CD-I has no soul. It gets no respect... Except in YPs Lol

King Harkinian, I believe, was mentioned in the Zelda TV Show. I forget. Anyway, another example would be Sprite instead of Navi appearing.

Aurane · Jan 31, 2012

HyperFalcon said:
King Harkinian, I believe, was mentioned in the Zelda TV Show. I forget. Anyway, another example would be Sprite instead of Navi appearing.

Eh, I'd even take Navi over the peverted... Sprite?

Good thing I like MTN Dew :troll:

Ok, good fellows, I must go. Have a good rest-o the day

Diddy Kong · Jan 31, 2012

I'd wanna play as a Cuccoo, or a Octorok. Fi should be playable to, as well as Groose, Granny, a Boklobin, Marin, Tarin, Geopora (the owl), a Goron, a Zora, a Deku Scrub... Too many ideas, and I still don't really like it.

Omega, look no further, I brought it up.
Got a blog now, and a poll. ^^

Verde Coeden Scalesworth · Jan 31, 2012

Sprite was the name, yes. And she wasn't that bad. Not any worse than Link, really.

OmegaXXII · Jan 31, 2012

Metal Overlord said:
Whoever suggested Pokemon XD music deserves a freakin' medal

Miror B was so boss

Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness- Miror B Battle (as already suggested)
Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness- Cipher Peon Battle
Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness- Shadow Lugia Battle
Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness- Cipher Admin Battle
Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness- Final Battle
Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness- Battle SIM Challenge
Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness- Normal Battle
Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness- Bingo Battle

Dont even get me started on Colosseum

Those are okay, but the ones from Pokemon Yellow/Gold & Silver are better; unaltered, no remix whatsoever, they usually screw them up just like they have with the most recent Gym Battle remixes. Kanto Gym Battle from Silver and Final Battle theme from Yellow are epic!!

Diddy Kong · Jan 31, 2012

Mirror B was awesome, he had the best battle music ever in Colloseum.

Metal Overlord · Jan 31, 2012

Verde Coeden Scalesworth · Jan 31, 2012

Did you ever get to the Quest 64 stuff, MO?

Metal Overlord · Jan 31, 2012

Quest 64 stuff? Is it possible you could link or at least name the songs you like most so that I can put them into the archive?

BTW, is there a character limit on the posts here?

Verde Coeden Scalesworth · Jan 31, 2012

Uhhh... give me time. I only mentioned Windward Forest.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13488440&postcount=46972 JavaCrox recorded it for me.

Metal Overlord · Jan 31, 2012

Whoa snap, ok, I guess I'll get to it then

Verde Coeden Scalesworth · Jan 31, 2012

Thanks, MO.

Metal Overlord · Jan 31, 2012

No prob HF

I guess that's all I'll do for today, but I'll continue to import more music from Java's old archive tomorrow while adding some of my own suggestions, as well

This stuff takes longer than I thought :laugh:

Thanks for the link, BTW, HF, gotta bookmark that for future reference

Pieman0920 · Jan 31, 2012

KumaOso said:
The art direction bugs me slightly in that he isn't exactly trying something new (but the promo art is dazzling). We'll have to wait and see though what Sm4sh will look like. Just so long as it's not the desaturated look of Brawl. Thankfully, Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, and Metroid have gone for more saturated color pallets so there's hope on that end.

I would put more analysis into the mechanics and the intensity levels as well. I wonder if the intensity levels could be turned into combo trials in Sm4sh where clearing the harder ones will give you stuff like costumes and unlockable characters. Glad to see, though, that Sakurai isn't scrubbing out Kid Icarus like many will say about Brawl.

Well, its very reminisnt of Brawl (and Air Ride) but it seems to have a bit more flare to it, instead of being sort of the sterile white look that Brawl sort of had, though that look is sort of still there. If you look at Melee -> Air Ride - > Brawl though, and assume Brawl -> Kid Icarus -> Smash 4 is going to follow a similar pattern though, then I think it would be a lot more stylized. An interesting thing to note though is that the menus in Kid Icarus seem to get darker/edgier to a small degree depending on what difficulty level you're going at. The results screen for the level 9 intensity has a lot more things going on in it than the intensity 2 screen.

That being said, the rewards system implemented has me somewhat concerned in the fact that Sakurai has made it clear from the little that he's said about Smash 4 that he wants to focus more on customization. To that end, I feel that may tie hand in hand with this Intensity thing. If he does bring it to Smash 4, and does have customizable aspects, the "capture" rate o the customizable aspects and their quality may be dependent on what difficulty you have to go through to earn them.

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