New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Big-Cat]

In Hyrule Hystorica it seems Impa was always meant to be a more core character on level of Link, Zelda and Ganon apperantly.

Link? Wouldn't surprise me if Skyward Sword is the start of her having more prominent appearances. Speaking of which, I'm wonder what a proper appearance of her in a Toon Zelda game look like.

Also, I think Takamaru will be someone that uses Iaido that will allow for close, hard hitting attacks.

 

[Pachinkosam]

Can some explain how pacman movesets are gonna be?

i just can't imagine

 

[wildvine47]

Can some explain how pacman movesets are gonna be?

i just can't imagine

If we're talking Smash, Pacman has MORE than enough for a moveset from the Pacman World games.

If we're talking SFxT, he rides a robot.

 

[Starphoenix]

So what's your idea of a fun character?

Somebody like Olimar, R.O.B, Mr. Game and Watch, Link, Captain Falcon. People that just bring something to the table that is unique and interesting. That is why I like characters like Ghirahim, Ridley, Bandana Dee, Mach Rider, Porky, Jimmy T, Slime, Megaman; even characters I do not like such as Bowser Jr and Krystal have the potential to be very fun. Those are what would fall under my category of "fun". With them I have a vision inside of my head on how they would function, what they would bring to the roster; balancing the scale between genius and absurdity. I just want creativity even if it is not necessarily with characters I would have chosen.

This is just the way my mind works.

 

[Big-Cat]

Can some explain how pacman movesets are gonna be?

i just can't imagine

I think even Capcom and Namco had a tough time as this was the best they could come up with it, it seems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIj2u_FHPwo

@Diddy
Apparently, Impa's name comes from the word "impart" as she is the one who reveals the Legend of Zelda.

Somebody like Olimar, R.O.B, Mr. Game and Watch, Link, Captain Falcon. People that just bring something to the table that is unique and interesting. That is why I like characters like Ghirahim, Ridley, Bandana Dee, Mach Rider, Porky, Jimmy T, Slime, Megaman; even characters I do not like such as Bowser Jr and Krystal have the potential to be very fun. Those are what would fall under my category of "fun". With them I have a vision inside of my head on how they would function, what they would bring to the roster; balancing the scale between genius and absurdity. I just want creativity even if it is not necessarily with characters I would have chosen.

This is just the way my mind works.

You and I aren't so different.

 

[Oasis_S]

Still baffled on how you could dismiss Isaac as boring?!

 

[Starphoenix]

Takamaru is a samurai fighter, seems like a semi fast sword fighter (between Link and Marth) with a good projectile game. I want Link to have Shield Bash and Skyward Strike as new B moves, so he can take over his heavily projectile reliant play style.

Isaac will have very interesting B moves for sure. Offensive bases Earth element, high damage projectile Psynergy attacks. Can't see that you don't want him after having played Golden Sun. Unless you played it just briefly. It's old skool RPGing, made fun. It's awesome.

Dixie would be more different to Diddy than Ness and Lucas are currently. Dixie could share Diddy's side B, and maybe B Air, U Air but there the similarities end. And even if, Diddy could use more tail attacks like in DK64 to be even more different to Dixie. She would be cool to have.

Little Mac doesn't seem boring to me either. Basic, yes. But that doesn't have to be Boeing.

I actually am not all that impressed with having a samurai in the roster. If I want a swift sword fighter I'll just pick up Marth. Tis me though. For Isaac I understand where you are coming from, but, again, even having played Golden Sun and knowing his capabilities he just does not interest me. Granted, perhaps he could pool a Lucas on me (who was a character I did not care for prior to Brawl but ultimately found myself enjoying in the end) and shock me. For now though I am just not impressed. As for Dixie Kong I like her, but I just see her being a glorified Diddy.

My personal criteria on what I enjoy from characters is so wacky I would not try to understand it, honestly. Like I said it comes down to what I am able to see in my mind. As creative as I typically am if I cannot see a character working, than that is saying something. Again, this is all personal at the end of the day.
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Let's talk about something other than characters. How about we go over items we want in the next game? I have been thinking about items lately and want to do a big item list.

 

[Oasis_S]

I'm too offended to talk about items.

 

[Pachinkosam]

If we're talking Smash, Pacman has MORE than enough for a moveset from the Pacman World games.

If we're talking SFxT, he rides a robot.

i see its every interesting.

Btw:thx a bunch kuma

 

[SmashChu]

Somebody like Olimar, R.O.B, Mr. Game and Watch, Link, Captain Falcon. People that just bring something to the table that is unique and interesting. That is why I like characters like Ghirahim, Ridley, Bandana Dee, Mach Rider, Porky, Jimmy T, Slime, Megaman; even characters I do not like such as Bowser Jr and Krystal have the potential to be very fun. Those are what would fall under my category of "fun". With them I have a vision inside of my head on how they would function, what they would bring to the roster; balancing the scale between genius and absurdity. I just want creativity even if it is not necessarily with characters I would have chosen.

This is just the way my mind works.

I see. I would say in both areas that there are a lot of interesting and fun characters. But this may also be because I'm the type who is interested to see who's in, and with this game, I'm cool with just about anyone.

I don't expect Mach Rider, but God, would he be so cool.

 

[Starphoenix]

I'm too offended to talk about items.

Bu-But I had Ridley AND Mach Rider.

I see. I would say in both areas that there are a lot of interesting and fun characters. But this may also be because I'm the type who is interested to see who's in, and with this game, I'm cool with just about anyone.

I don't expect Mach Rider, but God, would he be so cool.

I'm the same way too, but I also really want to be surprised. For me as long as I can be dazzled than I am ok. There is a balance.

 

[Pachinkosam]

slow and steady wins the race.

btw: sf x tekken cant wait to play online.

 

[Big-Cat]

slow and steady wins the race.

btw: sf x tekken cant wait to play online.

Sweet baby Jesus, me too. Can't wait to play Xiaoyu!

Off topic, but Eventhubs has updated their SFxTK section and has done something very shocking: They've added a KOF XIII section.
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/jan/28/street-fighter-x-tekken-moves-king-fighter-13-guide-added/

 

[SmashChu]

If we're talking Smash, Pacman has MORE than enough for a moveset from the Pacman World games.

If we're talking SFxT, he rides a robot.

I do think Kuma made a great point. Here it is again.

I think even Capcom and Namco had a tough time as this was the best they could come up with it, it seems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIj2u_FHPwo

Basically, there isn't much to draw on for Pac-Man. The danger is staying with his character. Giving moves, like punching, might draw him out of character. Of course, him riding a mech that's a mix between Pac-Man and the wood robot thing works quite nicely.

BTW, you better take a screenshot. Don't see me agree with Kuma very often.

I'm the same way too, but I also really want to be surprised. For me as long as I can be dazzled than I am ok. There is a balance.

True. Yeah, I was the same way with Wolf (as Lucas I mean). Didn't like him till I saw him 9and played with him). Games gonna be great either way.

 

[Pachinkosam]

i love you kuma :D

 

[Oasis_S]

BTW, you better take a screenshot. Don't see me agree with Kuma very often.

You Mach me laugh.

 

[---]

SmashChu agreeing with Kuma?!

I honestly never thought I'd live to see this day.

 

[Starphoenix]

Well, as my parting gift I guess I will propose probably my number one item request for the next game.

It flaps in rhythm.

Cuckoo *cluck cluck* - These little feathery friends will walk around around stage while the battle rages on stage. You can pick one up and toss it at and opponent, use one to glide while airborne, or leave them be altogether. Attacking a Cuckoo will cause it to recoil a bit and cluck loudly. After a prolonged amount of abuse the Cuckoo will decide to have its revenge by calling upon army of Cuckoos that will fly in from all sides and attack any and all opponents. Occasionally a rare flying rooster will appear on stage, golden Cuckoo, and holding one will allow a character to fly around the stage.

If I could find a picture of a Fireburst Pod from Star Fox Assault I'd list that item too.

 

[SmashChu]

You Mach me laugh.

I thought you were making a clever pun. Then I realized I spelled mach instead of mech.

 

[Big-Cat]

Basically, there isn't much to draw on for Pac-Man. The danger is staying with his character. Giving moves, like punching, might draw him out of character. Of course, him riding a mach that's a mix between Pac-Man and the wood robot thing works quite nicely.

BTW, you better take a screenshot. Don't see me agree with Kuma very often.

That's my beef with Lucas' specials as they're very much out of canon and, more importantly, out of character.

You could use your statement as well to explain why a Megaman using strictly Robot Master abilities could be considered out of character.

And yes, I think we should remember this grand moment when we agree on something.

 

[SmashChu]

That's my beef with Lucas' specials as they're very much out of canon and, more importantly, out of character.

You could use your statement as well to explain why a Megaman using strictly Robot Master abilities could be considered out of character.

And yes, I think we should remember this grand moment when we agree on something.

Now we have to disagree again. Shame really.

The difference with Lucas than, say, SFxT Pac-Man is borrow vs pull out of nowhere. Lucas can use PK moves, so him borrowing offensive ones helps the game work out better and is there more for gameplay sake than canon (it's a game after all. Playability comes first). Megaman using Robot Master moves is similar in that he's borrowing moves. But that's still weak as the point of Megaman games was to get powers from the Robot Masters and use them, so they are really his. Be the same for complaining that Kirby can't use Cutter, Roc or Hammer as they are not his.

 

[yani]

It was nice while it lasted

 

[Oasis_S]

I thought you were making a clever pun. Then I realized I spelled mach instead of mech.

Wouldn't that just make it even cleverer. BD

 

[Big-Cat]

Well, with Lucas, he still has options. Sure, he has healing attacks that would never see the life of day in a fighting game outside of a super or item. He still has stat altering moves, which, while not as exciting as PK Fire and Thunder, are still very functional and also very unique.

Also, I'm not saying that Megaman with RM abilities is out of character. I'm just saying you can use that as that as the basis of an anti-Megaman argument. Personally, though, I'd design a Megaman where said use of abilities are limited so as to focus on Megaman himself.

BTW, have you played Starfox Adventures?

 

[Oasis_S]

BTW, have you played Starfox Adventures?

I guess YOU haven't since you never put that twirly attack in Krystal's moveset. >:I

 

[Big-Cat]

Wait a little bit, Oasis, I wanna get SmashChu's response first.

 

[---]

With Megaman's moveset, just once I would like to see him have a decent moveset that doesn't waste his potential.

By far he has the most weapons and abilities in VG history, and so far no one has been able to actually and accurately use them. I hate you Hyper Mega Man.

 

[Big-Cat]

I guess YOU haven't since you never put that twirly attack in Krystal's moveset. >:I

I've given 20 minutes for him to respond, so I'll answer this now.

For those of you that have played Starfox Adventures, do you guys remember some of the inputs to do particular staff attacks? When I was suggesting those Tekken type chains, I was envisioning something very similar, if not exactly like the staff combat in Starfox Adventures which shows potential to have depth in attack chains with only one button. In fact, Krystal is the ideal poster girl for this, especially with the TWIRLY ATTACK from Adventures.

 

[Pieman0920]

I've given 20 minutes for him to respond, so I'll answer this now.

For those of you that have played Starfox Adventures, do you guys remember some of the inputs to do particular staff attacks? When I was suggesting those Tekken type chains, I was envisioning something very similar, if not exactly like the staff combat in Starfox Adventures which shows potential to have depth in attack chains with only one button. In fact, Krystal is the ideal poster girl for this, especially with the TWIRLY ATTACK from Adventures.

Apparently there were about 6 combos which basically revolved around hitting the A button multiple times, but changed depending on how you started it, like down A A A A A A versus standard A A A A A A or Left A A A A A A. Also the dodge button could be used at times for X A A A A A A and Left X A

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Does anyone watch There Will Be Brawl? I heard that they was planning on making a prequel. It could be hypothetically based on Super Smash Bros. 4 if that's true.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Does anyone watch There Will Be Brawl? I heard that they was planning on making a prequel. It could be hypothetically based on Super Smash Bros. 4 if that's true.

What's "There will be Brawl"?

 

[Big-Cat]

Wouldn't it be based on Melee?

 

[AEMehr]

I'm not exactly sure if whether I should post this here or not, but since Golden posted it here. I'll do the same.

This is my Roster.

You might notice that the majority of the character images here are similar to the ones Golden posts here. This is because I'm his roster image supplier, nice to meet you all!

Some Notes Here
>Dr. Mario and Overall Wario are alternate costumes.
>Zero Suit Samus still functions the way she did in Brawl, her image placement just allows people to know she's still there.
>Mach Rider will not be on his bike, but will have a chain and use it similarly like Ghost Rider does in UMvC3
>The person under Lucas is Shulk, from Xenoblade
>The person above Game and Watch is The Sheriff
>The Slime is Rocket from Dragon Quest Heroes
>There are 4 Miis because those Miis are "Save Spots" You make your Mii in the 3DS version of Sm4sh, then you can save them onto your Wii U version so you can make more Miis.


If anyone has any questions and comments please, post them!

 

[Deleted member]

Is Dr. Mario JUST a costume, or does he have his differences?

Also, you might want to explain the Diddy/Dixe duo, as people here are used to the idea of Diddy and Dixie being seperate.

 

[AEMehr]

Is Dr. Mario JUST a costume, or does he have his differences?

Also, you might want to explain the Diddy/Dixe duo, as people here are used to the idea of Diddy and Dixie being seperate.

Ah yes,
Dr. Mario would be a costume.

As for Diddy and Dixie, I always thought they would work as a Ice Climbers/Zelda&Sheik thing. Where they would travel together but then Switch through the down special. If one were to be killed you lose access to your down special until the Kong you were using dies.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Does anyone watch There Will Be Brawl? I heard that they was planning on making a prequel. It could be hypothetically based on Super Smash Bros. 4 if that's true.

That'd be pretty damn cool. Although I honestly doubt it would be based upon SSB4. Likewise... why don't people ever make parodies of the original game.

@PI: It's a fan parody of the series using live-action style with a few bits of computer stuff thrown in for stuff like Mr. Game & Watch's final smash.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Wouldn't it be based on Melee?

Kind of think of it, probably since Pichu, Mewtwo, and Roy would be alive at that time. I think newer characters that would be in Super Smash Bros. 4, like K. Rool and Ridley, might be seen since it would be out around 2015-2016 (SBB4's varied release). Not much is known at the moment, so we will have to wait on some newer details.

 

[Kolorado]

@Ariand/AEM

I must say that you made a pretty solid roster there. It is definitely one I would be happy with. A few notes, though:

I don't recognize the character under The Iceclimbers. Who is that?

If Square Enix gives a character, I would rather it be someone non-generic like Cecil from FFIV or Terra from FFVI.

I have to believe that with the release of Kid Icarus: Uprising the Kid Icarus series will get some more characters. Magnus needs to be in there!

I still think the Smash series could use more villains and women.

 

[AEMehr]

@Ariand/AEM

I must say that you made a pretty solid roster there. It is definitely one I would be happy with. A few notes, though:

I don't recognize the character under The Iceclimbers. Who is that?

If Square Enix gives a character, I would rather it be someone non-generic like Cecil from FFIV or Terra from FFVI.

I have to believe that with the release of Kid Icarus: Uprising the Kid Icarus series will get some more characters. Magnus needs to be in there!

I still think the Smash series could use more villains and women.

Alright then, let's begin.

The character underneath the Ice Climbers is Takamaru, from Nazo no Murasame-jō a japanese only game. Sakurai has been taking an interest into him for sometime, and said that he would add him into SSB4 if he recieved another appearence. Recently he made a Cameo playable appearence in Samurai Warriors 3 in a Special level devoted to his game.

I don't think so. I think Final Fantasy games, as important as they are, aren't really coming to Nintendo consoles anymore. Dragon Quest though as recently been pulling the weight from the company. They have several games in development specifically for Nintendo's Consoles. If anyone is going to appear from that franchise it's certainly a Slime; but why not have the Slime with a name and go with Rocket? He has special abilities and can use attacks other Slimes can too. It's a win win situation in my book.

I had Magnus in my roster for some time, but I then realized that even though Sakurai's making the game. It took him until brawl to actually add more of his own characters other than Kirby. So I figured it would make more sense to not add one. But if I had to, I would most likely put in Medusa.

I mean Smash needs more villains and women right?

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

I mean Smash needs more villains and women right?

Doesn't NEED them per se, but there's no reason not to have more.



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