New Smash Bros for WiiU

[yani]

Has anyone seen this yet? Rumor for Zelda getting a dual title launch for 3DS

Two new Zelda 3DS games

This would be pretty cool. It's not like this hasn't been done before, so maybe this could be true.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Looks fake. We would've heard more about it if they came up with logos already and all.

Would be cool to have a double release though.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

It could be remakes of the Oracle games. Which would be sweet, as they could really use one.(especially if they make the rings slightly easier to get new ones.)

As for the extra Final Smashes, 2 of them would be good, really.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I really don't mind the block HyperFalcon has on me, how could this possibly looks like remakes of the Oracle games? Wouldn't people have figured that out already? Appearantly "they" have called it Legend of Fire and Legend of Ice or something similar to that. But it's fake anyway so it deserves no mention. Especially since development of a new Zelda on 3DS has just started, based on an article. And Nintendo takes their time with Zelda.....

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

I wonder if it's true, would be very great if it was two new original Zeldas, tho. (-lvl-)

 

[Big-Cat]

I think for "customizing" Final Smashes, I think it would be just easier to do this:

1. Choose the Final Smash of your choice when you select the character.
2. To do your Final Smash, do double down + B. This way, it's a completely separate input from the others.

@Poppy
I think it would be simpler to do EX Moves from what you're getting at. Just do the intended input with B+A at the cost of some meter.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Kuma: Down B doesn't sound as bad as B-button, but I like the B + A-input more. (-lvl-);

 

[nLiM8d]

LOL, NOW its starting to sound like Street Fighter

"Quarter Circle Back"
"What?"
"I said: Quarter Circle Back!"

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

N: Loolz, I wonder. Kirby then should get that Insta-Mega-Blast-something from Return To Dreamland to go with it. XDDD

/Hey N, I drew you up after asking the hairstyle thing, but not quite, I might say:

http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE...talking___1___by_indygonagaretton-d4meq14.jpg

/Doodling more now actually, I'd wanna know what's Metal's hairstyle like, :3. I was doing a doodle based on this one:

Diddy, you just grab every opportunity you can get to mention cutting Sheik for Impa in here, don't you

The new characters would be the revamped Ganondorf, Link, Zelda and Impa as a new comer. Toon Link is good to stay or get replaced though. And I don't think I grab many oppertunities, cause if I don't talk about Impa this place turns into a temple of worshipping Ghirahim within a minute...

/

EDIT:
N: Not quite, more of got super bored. XD

 

[nLiM8d]

I saw that actually XD

I was greatly impressed I daresay,.you've been taking notes from Iblis haven't you?

 

[Pichu Fan]

Item idea- The TM from pokemon.There are four types (red,blue,green,yellow) each does something else, but each wears off after a while.

Red turns neutral B to flamethrower.
Blue turns up B to waterfall.
Green turns forwards B to razor leaf
Yellow turns down B to thunder

 

[Metal Overlord]

@Horsetail- My hairstyle in real life? If so, just think of the typical black man cut

 

[Zzuxon]

Item idea- The TM from pokemon.There are four types (red,blue,green,yellow) each does something else, but each wears off after a while.

Red turns neutral B to flamethrower.
Blue turns up B to waterfall.
Green turns forwards B to razor leaf
Yellow turns down B to thunder

Zzuxon approves.
On the subject of Items, i think they should introduce the Fossil Medal from Fossil Fighters as a new assist item, and the Robo Cube from custom Robo if ray isn't playable.

 

[nLiM8d]

Yeah, typical

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

@Horsetail- My hairstyle in real life? If so, just think of the typical black man cut

Black-man cut... hmm? Can ya bit specify?

Not necessarily have to real life (like what N did, he just said that I could draw Kuroma's hair from Yu Yu Hakusho)

Pichu: Bit wierd to picture to me. (-l,l-);

 

[Metal Overlord]

Just give me a Sisqo haircut

Spoiler

 

[JavaCroc]

I've only got one thing to say for tonight...

Lemmy Koopa? Sure, why not.
Generic Space Pirate? Bring him in.
Nikki from Swapnote? Awesome.

I don't care who gets in this game. I love reading speculation on characters. I have never come across a character who I thought "NO WAY!". There is no character who could turn me away from the game. Hell, they could put David Suzuki in this game, and I wouldn't give a crap.

Go back to whatever you were talking about now.

I like your spirit, man, and I agree. I don't care what new characters get into SSB4: I'd welcome them all the same.

Are we talking about haircuts right now? I should really shave, but am too lazy. I'm developing sideburns and a mustache.

Items: I'd like containers - crates, barrels, etc. - to expand on the "themes" concept and match not only the style of the stage but the stage's respective franchise. For example, on a Mario Kart stage, I'd like to see Item Boxes spawn instead of normal crates, or see breakable pots and jugs on a Zelda stage

 

[SmashChu]

My post isn't any shape or form contradictory. Not being the most popular thing doesn't mean people hate it. It means that it could be done better.

If it's not popular, it means people don't like it. They tend to go together.

You want flaws? I've tossed them out to you before, but ok.

• Shifts the focus of the game from fighting the opponent to getting the Smash Ball. Compare this to supers in other fighting games where the shift is seamless in comparison.
• The Smash Ball floats to the losing player instead of being unbiased.
• You have to break the Smash Ball to get the Final Smash which shifts the focus even more.
• The Final Smash leaves your B attack unusable. Surely, there could've been a way to make it not overlap inputs.

Going 1 by 1 (note the theme though)
1)Smash isn't other fighting games nor does it ever try to be. Also, I think Sakurai knows it becomes the focus when on screen. Lastly, why is the shift in focus bad.
2)The Smash Ball tends to favor the losing player, but it also tends to float around randomly or trying to avoid people in general. It's not a big deal.
3)Why is shifting focus to this REALLY POWERFUL ITEM a bad thing. Same thing happened when a Pokeball dropped.
4)I never thought to myself "Oh man, I really need by B now instead of the final smash. Once you have it, the focus is on using it. Not really other things.

PROTIP: Quit acting like you know the design intent on the game. Even if this game wasn't made for competitive play, there is no reason to NOT balance a game. And no, items do not count due to their random nature and that they wouldn't make a difference in the long run.

Sakurai has said numerous time that he made the game to be simpliler. From his Melee interview.
I had created Smash Bros. to be my response to how hardcore-exclusive the fighting game genre had become over the years," Sakurai said. "But why did I target it so squarely toward people well-versed in videogames, then? That's why I tried to aim for more of a happy medium with Brawl's play balance.
There are more quotes like these hanging around. The Iwata Ask has more I'm sure.

I act like I know it because Sakurai said it. This is called learning rather than assuming. What I've been talking about this whole time is understanding the purpose of it's design rather than question it (and I don't question it because it's proven successful, something we've argued). So when I say it's not made for competitive players, In say it because it came from the horse's mouth.

Second, Sakurai is balancing the game and you can tell from the changes in Brawl (look at Link). Balancing is good, but it's irrelevant if you aren't doing constant updates. Blizzard does this and Capcom is starting too, but not enough (they tend to go for fewer and bigger, which isn't better).

Lastly, assuming items are not part of the balance is ignorant. They are a part of the game. Maps are a part of balance in other games. Why wouldn't items be either. Final Smashes are also a balance technique. Give me a good reason why they are somehow out of the process.

 

[Aurane]

@Smashchu You intelect warps my mind

What's good? I found out why my Wi-Fi doesn't work. Soon enough I'll be up and running. Then you guys can feel the power of Wolf O'cario >:]

 

[nLiM8d]

Learning is not the same thing as knowing, nice try though.

So when I say it's not made for competitive players, In say it because it came from the horse's mouth.

Where was that quote again? Sounds to me like you're trying to manipulate the words so that they might have a chance at working in your favor. Its not fooling anyone though.

vvvvvv--Word--vvvvvv​

Sound's like we're hittin it MVC style

 

[Conviction]

Ohhh man I can't wait to get back home so I can tear into that horrible smashchu argument!

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

I like your spirit, man, and I agree. I don't care what new characters get into SSB4: I'd welcome them all the same.

Are we talking about haircuts right now? I should really shave, but am too lazy. I'm developing sideburns and a mustache.

Items: I'd like containers - crates, barrels, etc. - to expand on the "themes" concept and match not only the style of the stage but the stage's respective franchise. For example, on a Mario Kart stage, I'd like to see Item Boxes spawn instead of normal crates, or see breakable pots and jugs on a Zelda stage

Java, I might just draw you as Louis the Jazz-lovin' crocodile. It just goes with your username and earlier avatars. XDD

And I like that idea. It would feel so more Nintendo-like. (-lwl-)b

 

[Big-Cat]

Ohhh man I can't wait to get back home so I can tear into that horrible smashchu argument!

Please do. I got to head back to college in a bit so I can't tear into this one.

 

[Deleted member]

Question: has Zelda actually fought pre-Melee in the games at all or did anything?

 

[nLiM8d]

Depends on how you would define "doing something".

 

[Deleted member]

Depends on how you would define "doing something".

If she actually fought in the game.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I just read Java's item idea and I'm slapping myself in the face right now for not thinking of that before, lol.

 

[JavaCroc]

Java, I might just draw you as Louis the Jazz-lovin' crocodile. It just goes with your username and earlier avatars. XDD

And I like that idea. It would feel so more Nintendo-like. (-lwl-)b

I used to have Louis as an avatar actually. I'm in jazz band and I do like animated films, so Louis would be a great fit for me.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Java: Works for me! (-lwl-)b

SSBFan: Maybe not fighting, but her magical powers are something. Remember the final battle in OOT? That was quite of her own moment of awesome to me.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

If it's not popular, it means people don't like it. They tend to go together.

I don't agree with kuma but this particular attack wasn't necessary because unpopular =\= hatred. Cheese pizza isn't popular but that doesn't mean it's hated, it just means people prefer pepperoni. Among adults sesame street isn't popular but that doesn't mean they hate it, they just prefer NCIS. Flip phones are no longer popular but they aren't hated, people just prefer touch screens. See what I mean? Annnd in rare cases like in high school comedies, the popular people are the most hated =P

VVV You've said that........... like 20 times now.

 

[Pichu Fan]

I want Miyamoto, sakurai, iwata, etc. Bobble head items in smash 4, so that when it comes out delayed (it will, like every game) I can beat the crap out of them when I get it.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Trophies are better than bobbleheads though.

 

[Metal Overlord]

What heartless soul could hate Sesame Street, anyway

 

[yani]

Question: has Zelda actually fought pre-Melee in the games at all or did anything?

I don't believe so. But after the first dorf fight in OoT , she opens the doors to escape with magic, which shows that she does have some magic abilities

 

[Pachinkosam]

indeed. the same move can get repetitive sometimes.

and some characters need something different. peaches move can be easily avoided by grabing the edge and luigis circle can be easily avoided as well.

i see youre point

 

[JavaCroc]

What heartless soul could hate Sesame Street, anyway

Thanks to Johnknight, anytime I think of Sesame Street, this video comes to mind. XD

 

[SmashChu]

@Smashchu You intelect warps my mind ]

I'm not smart. I don't consider myself smart. No one in hear is smart, and if you think you are, than your the most foolish person in the thread.

Fact is, I don't have my own argument. I never have. All I do is I steal other people's arguments. When I talk about Starcraft to my friends, I start throwing out stuff Day9 has said. Day9 is way smarter than me about Starcraft. So I'll use him. I'm leaning about money and have been reading Robert Kiyosaki's books, like Rich Dad Poor Dad. So, when I talk about money, I don't say what Smashchu says. I say what Robert Kiyosaki says. He's smart than me about money. So why not use him. When I talked about sales, I used Sean Malstrom because he knew what he was taking about (he has been right about gaming far more than any analyst in the industry). So my arguements came from him.

The reason my arguments stand up while Kuma's don't is because I follow the facts. Kuma makes a solution and either tries to find facts that fit it or ignore them altogether. Here is my process.

1)I look at what the designer said. I under stand his viewpoint. If I do not understand his viewpoint, I can never understand anything else related to that game or what have you. You are wasting your time if you try to argue without this information. You'll just be ignorant. Once you get an understanding of something
2)You evaluate it. From here, you say "OK, is what Mr. X doing right?" This is where you look at the facts (which is what Kuma ignores). So, I say "Sakurai seems to focus on simplicity and making the game easy to play. Is this correct." I look at sales numbers (because a sale is a person) and play data (to see if it was more than hype). I find that Smash Bros is the best selling fighting series where other fighting series are outsold by WWE and Naruto games. This means that more people chose Smash Bros over those other games. And data from the Nintendo channel says that Smash is the second most played game. So people are still playing it. So is Sakurai right. Probably. The data shows us that more people prefer his game to other fighting games and even other games.

Notice that I came to the conclusion though looking at information. I did not make anything up. I did not make my own theory. I looked at the data and it pointed me to a conclusion.

@xIblisx: You have a lot of potential, but your falling into the same trap. I suggested you for the backroom because you were smart. But you may make the mistake of getting into this silly mob and ignoring truth. Learn. Dont try to make your own reality. Seeing as how you both have to "tear this argument down" shows you don't want to have a discussion, but you wont allow people to disagree with your ideas.

Sorry to put so much in your quote asage94.

Where was that quote again? Sounds to me like you're trying to manipulate the words so that they might have a chance at working in your favor. Its not fooling anyone though.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=293080
If I get around to it, I'll look for more.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Thanks to Johnknight, anytime I think of Sesame Street, this video comes to mind. XD

"I could sit and **** all day"

@Pichu- Scratch that, let's have Sakurai and Iwata as hidden, unlockable playable characters

 

[Baskerville]

A new mode I came up with...

Survival Mode (Single Player):
This mode is pretty much in other fighting games but its a little bit different. You pick a team of 4 characters and you go through fighting other characters in 1v1, 2v2, 2v1 or 3v1 battles as well as fighting bosses and obtaining new trophies, stickers and even a few hidden stages, if your 1st character gets KO'd then your 2nd character takes their place, if all your characters get KO'd then its Game Over. Every time you complete a fight you go to the same room in All-Star Mode with 3 hearts that restore your percentage.

 

[nLiM8d]

Listen to this memphisto, trying to preach when he should be practicing.

You don't seem to comprehend that it is your interpretation that has veiled you from seeing the man's words for what they are. It seems you're attempting to assimilate these points to how you view the argument.

Its no more complex than that, yet you continue to make it out to be.