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It definitely was a circus. For all the fun I had with it, I don't want a repeat of it.

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Are you Quercus Alba?
 

nLiM8d

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(Smashchu) Well tell us oh condescending one, does speculation have specific talking points or is it only the "theme" of speculation important?
 

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Let's play Jenga

Based on what? What magic 8-ball told you that?
No, Ghirahim became quite the fad after Skyward Sword came out, but his support is already kind of dying now. Before even I thought he should make it, now I don't.

[The Ness thing is the only thing there that is true. As far as we know, Jigglypuff wasn't getting cut, and DK had no problems being in Smash. None of that has been confirmed.
Jigglypuff might not have been 100% priority to keep, but still yeah it's obvious she made it back. Nintendo and Rare where in a arguement over who was to take rights over Donkey Kong after Rare got fired. If Rare would've won the case, Donkey Kong wouldn't have been on Nintendo games anymore. Including Smash Bros. of coarse. Luckily that didn't happen, but am just saying.

Jigglypuff not being 100% priority, neither as Ness before Melee makes me think even the oldest of veterans could possibly be cut. Captain Falcon and Ness especially might be cut if there is no F-Zero or any form of continuation on the Mother series. EVENTUALLY. Not this game, but perhaps the next.

So who says Sheik should really stay? She has been in 2 games, not 3 like Falcon, Jigglypuff and Ness. And I easily could see those 3 (amongst many) be cutted of from the series, eventually.

[Where did he say that? Please show me.
Can't provide links, but it has been said before. If anyone could help me with this, I'd appriciate it. For those not knowing wtf I'm talking about, it's about Sakurai noting Mewtwo and Roy especially where very popular in Melee. Marth might've got mentioned in there as well.

[This is just silly. Ness has been in all three games and he hasn't come back. Heck, they brought Pit back. He was dead for 15 years or more. And Sheik is still in the game after being only in OoT. How does appearing even matter?
Well, obviously Sakurai kind of liked Pit? It's not like he's making his very new game either...

Besides that, Pit was a retro addition to Brawl. Retro's are the V.I.P.s of Smash. Sheik cannot be considered as retro in any kind of way.

[You make a lot of baseless claims for her. Kind of shows it.
Heck, look at your last post. Everything is one big assumption. There is no ground to stand on. This is why I think your argument is rediculous. Even in this post, I can find crazy things by going line by line. There is little to no substance. I can at least back my argument for Sheik by saying "Sheik has appeared in multiple Smash titles and is more recognizable as a result. She is also a part of Zelda and her character and is still in the games despite not being in Twilight Princess." if all your argument is is trying to knock down my arguments, than you have nothing to stand back on.
No that's subjective though. I do think my point has vallue especially considering how the Zelda franchise takes place in a whole different era of time any way. Explains why lots of the characters are one-off as well. Link thusfar has been based on from OoT and Twilight Princess, same with Zelda and Ganondorf. Zelda had little character development from OoT to Twilight Princess (at the end just a bit, hardly counts if she was practically dead half of the game) except from the Wind Waker.

Which is also kind of funny, cause Toon Zelda / Tetra might've made it to Brawl even, or was at least considered. If Tetra would've made it, I think she might've been Brawl's Sheik actually (6 Zelda characters would've been overkill). They probably scrapped the idea cause they had a Sheik design from the TP- developers.

And as I've proved before, there is no Skyward Sword Sheik design. Which would've been useless anyway with Impa around. I'm about 65% sure they'll base mosly of Skyward Sword, as the content is easier available for Sakurai with the game actually being out than Zelda Wii U & 3DS as they are just beginning with those projects if anything.

Point is, Zelda had much character development in Skyward Sword. Moreso than ever. Thus moreso than ever, her being a separate character would be the best thing. Sheik has no possibility fitting into Skyward Sword- Zelda anyway. Impa does basically all her fighting in the game.

AND as said before, Mewtwo >>>>>>>>>>>> Roy >> Sheik in terms of popularity. Mewtwo is also very, very much more known and far more re-appearing and more important to his series than Sheik is. Sheik got in cause of a spare design, Toon Zelda / Tetra (who's argueably even more popular with Zelda fans than Sheik, and more far more imporant) being cut and Zelda not having any character development (or even character or personality at all) in Twilight Princess. It's a bit lazy, but seeing what they did to Ganondorf it's not all too suprising at all.

I think I've explained most here though. Ask direct questions if you want anything else answered.
 
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No, he is referring to a certain Rowdy Mouse. You are not old enough to know the history of the KumaChu wars.
Don't you mean, I haven't been here long enough?

I wouldn't necessarily count age as a part of it, unless it happened say, over 7 years ago.
 

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I just come here from a forum that's already filled with drama to see you *****es arguing over petty ****?


Uh-uh, it ain't gonn' go down that, whatever's goin' on, y'all need to shut the hell up, get over it, nobody gives a ****
 

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ChronoBound's supple touch has everyone's nerves intertwined with his silken fingers.

That's my assessment.
 

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So, besides trading personal insults what is the topic at hand? More reminiscing over the pre-Brawl days? Because I remember those times quite clearly, ignorance and all. Between Nsider and Gamefaqs it was certainly quite a circus.
Yeah, Pre-Brawl was nuts. Only real reason I started posting here. I do remember Sora from Kingdom Hearts being a big pick. Also, Nsider was still around then.
 

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I just come here from a forum that's already filled with drama to see you *****es arguing over petty ****?


Uh-uh, it ain't gonn' go down that, whatever's goin' on, y'all need to shut the hell up, get over it, nobody gives a ****
Nah dog, this is exposure 101.

Come at me bro. :troll:
Still haven't answered a thing. Tell me, are you a ballerina?

ChronoBound's supple touch has everyone's nerves intertwined with his silken fingers.

That's my assessment.
And that's what's happening.
 

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I never really saw chrono throw insults. The comment iblis quoted was more sarcasm than anything and he stereotyped kuma.
Iunno I think all y'all are over reacting

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Any more flaming and this thread becomes Magman. You all need to chill like Goriath. :awesome:

Ah, me and my Kirby references.

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Thanks I'll take a nice long look.

Sorry he hasn't yet, but I'll be sure to PM you as soon as he does. Last time I checked, I believe he was hinting that it would be the next one he'd do.
Alright, I'll be looking forward to that.

@ChronoBound: Your analysis was worth looking at. I think you should try another one after the trailer starts.
 

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I don't think so.

No one's overreacting here, this ignorant mentality needs to stop.

I was pretty offended when Chrono was getting at Kuma simply because he preferred Krystal's design. No grounds to call someone a furry.
 

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(Smashchu) Well tell us oh condescending one, does speculation have specific talking points or is it only the "theme" of speculation important?
Is it about when I said Kuma was speculating. I was more pointing out that while he says Chrono speculates to much, so does he, just on a different topic.

That's what this whole thread is about. Basically, for what you said, it's all the same and all we do is speculate.
 

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It was a joke Golden. I am not as good at this as Oasis.

This thread is becoming pathetic. Can people please shut up with your Days of Our Lives drama and just TRY to talk about something that even remotely pertains to this thread? Here is a hint, none of you are ever going to run into each other so why the heck internalize a negative comment? Just stop, everyone. Nevermind, Gatlins got this.

Yeah, Pre-Brawl was nuts. Only real reason I started posting here. I do remember Sora from Kingdom Hearts being a big pick. Also, Nsider was still around then.
That is about the same reason I came here was because Nsider was on its way out and I was referred here by other web. After that I just floated around in several group support threads and ultimately left the site for awhile. When I came back I began posting in the old SSB4 thread infrequently. Being one of the newbies I felt constantly ignored. Cannot even say who was the first person to ever actually respond to me, but I do know it was quite awhile.
 

nLiM8d

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C'mon Gatlin, you need to take the time to express how putting people on the ignore promotes more animosity than its intent.

You must take the time to express proper thread etiquette instead helping folks go about it the passive way. The problems are still here if you haven't noticed.

They resurface at times like these.
 

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I think Gatlin uses that sneaky font color on purpose. When things get heated, it's easy to overlook.
 

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Know what? I'm gunna come back another time ._. After reading what just happened...I just wanna play Halo. I'll be back... Some other time. But I'll have some inquires about hit boxes.
 

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Yes, I agree, that's quite enough.
I think this topic should be closed for a small time. It always seems to devolve into a social club, and everyone seems to be up against each other on certain positions, before it eventually devolves into personally being against those who hold those positions.

Its pathetic.
 

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Gatlin, on some completely honest speak from the belly of the thread. This needs to happen. The ignore "dance" around the problem isn't solving any issues. It's only building up tension.

Want an example? Look at Case A; Diddy vs. Golden. These two still throw insults towards either each other even though they went with the ignore "solution" you have provided.

Need another one? Case B; Asage vs. Shortie. Same outcome as Case B.

You know, once in while you need things to fizz out to actually solve the problem. Doing it the sugarcoat way. So let's this run for a little.

And no, don't put me behind closed doors for this me vs. Mod discussion either. Let the people see how the modding system here works for once.

@Chrono: You started this whole thing. Is the thread pathetic or the source of the problem.
 

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Besides some Apex support, and some flaming here and there I don't see much wrong besides enourmous, almost unhealthy activity in this thread. But ey, keeps things a bit lively I guess?

I'm not really insulting Golden as much actually. And I haven't put him on ignore either.
 

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I think this topic should be closed for a small time. It always seems to devolve into a social club, and everyone seems to be up against each other on certain positions, before it eventually devolves into personally being against those who hold those positions.

Its pathetic.
Honestly, IMO, that doesn't seem fair to the ones that at least TRY to stay on topic(e.g. me, Metal, disfunk). Dunno though, that's just my two cents.

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I say ONE thing as a response and all of a sudden it's referred to as a common occurance.
I can pretty much guarantee that Diddy's been throwing insults left and right while I don't see it.

You know what this topic needs?

 
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Am I the only one who actually likes this thread, despite all the stupidity that goes on in it?

Onto another subject, I have a pretty left field origin when it comes to me and the Internet and how I got into Smash 4 speculation if anyone is curious.
 
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