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yani_

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What I'd flip a table for?

Sonic/Snake returning
Dixie Kong
King K.Rool
Mewtwo

What I'd flip a house for? :laugh:
Geno
Banjo Kazooie
 

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I think the past that everyone is saying that they disagreed with is the exclusion of Little Mac. The roster has only 11 newcomer (13, if Mewtwo and Roy are counted as newcomers), and no cuts from Brawl.
Oh, I thought you had 3 Kid Icarus representatives in your roster. Maybe I am remembering it wrong. I always tend to disagree with people there, although as of late (seeing as how epic Kid Icarus: Uprising looks) I am less inclined to disagree. I actually am neutral about the idea of 2 Kid Icarus representatives.

And yeah, what Kuma said. Smash needs improvement. Heck, everything needs improvement in everything! (generic statement is generic!) :laugh:

The ways, how, where, and why's that we want smash to improve is differs in each of our opinions. :smirk: :cool: :bee:

@ yani
I would flip off a group of gangsters a city for Banjo or Geno. Especially Geno. The city of preferences to flip for me is L.A... because I hate L.A. :awesome: :cool: :chuckle:
 

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Oh, I thought you had 3 Kid Icarus representatives in your roster. Maybe I am remembering it wrong. I always tend to disagree with people there, although as of late (seeing as how epic Kid Icarus: Uprising looks) I am less inclined to disagree. I actually am neutral about the idea of 2 Kid Icarus representatives.
I had three Kid Icarus characters, though now my position is to wait and see how Uprising is received.
 
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I think the past that everyone is saying that they disagreed with is the exclusion of Little Mac. The roster has only 11 newcomer (13, if Mewtwo and Roy are counted as newcomers), and no cuts from Brawl.
That's the smelly part of the roster; no Little Mac.
 

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John Knight: Okay,, thanks JK! Shiek could be in that roster (again...) but I don't know how it would be possible. In fact, I thought putting Impa from Skyward for replacing Shiek.

Kid Icarus-reps are gonna stay like this though. Palutena and Medusa must get to battle each other face to face sometime, anyway. Going on, Palutena's like Zelda for KI and Medusa is the villain.

Toon Link again, I didn't feel like adding (clone, gaaahhhhh!!!) But then now added him in wishes for him getting luigified. (-l_l-);

Lip... I know her chances seem quite slim, but I still keep rooting for her. She's this wildcard character of mine, someone who I'm rooting the MOST. I know her chances are slim, so I'm not waiting her though: Starfy goes on front of her, ya know.

But still, thanks for rating my roster.

Let's see then who'd I go crazy for:

Flip a Table inclusions:

Dixie
Palutena
Starfy
Saki
Megaman

Flip a house--- no, THE WHOLE COUNTRY!

- Lip
- Toad
- Banjo-Kazooie (Eff Yeas. I loved that game too man. Thanks so much big sister for borrowing from your friend when we were little. (-;w;-)
- Roll
- Protoman
 

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The only character at this point that is absolutely necessary for the next Smash Bros. for me is Ridley.
 

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Whoa don't take me too seriously, But Luigi Stays Unlockable just like that there's always a classic Mario Stage that's about the original Super Mario Bros or that Mario's a Starter.

But about Snake I mean that Old Snake was only on PS3/PSP. I'm just saying that they should use designs that aren't PS exclusive, that is if thats how you want Snake to be is what I mean.

Sorry for just Rambling on and on.
 

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Honestly all I really want in the game is a kid link incarnation and issac. Everyone else is extra.

If I find out bomberman is in it though, I'm flipping the world and murdering anyone that stands in between me and smash4. Fools better watch out.

:phone:
 

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I apologize if either of these pages have been posted, but these are some nice finds for all of us speculators.

"Info Leak" 1
"Info Leak" 2

Here's my two cents on these links, hidden so you don't have to read it if you don't want to.
The introduction of Ridley, King K. Rool, Professor Layton, Saki and Lil Mac are quite pleasing. I was rather disappointed when none of these characters were made playable in Brawl (though it kinda saved them from being made poorly or overpowered, depending on which character you look at introduced in Brawl). Megaman and Shulk are nice add-ons as well, and Krystal will please all of the furries out there.
On the other hand, characters I didn't expect such as Slime, King Hippo and the completely out of the blue Prince Sable make me wonder just what is being planned exactly for this game.
 

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I had three Kid Icarus characters, though now my position is to wait and see how Uprising is received.
Yeah, that was the part I disagree on (the 3 Kid Icarus characters part). I am also on hold. If Kid Icarus: Uprising is like Legend of Zelda quality/greatness, I would be a okay with 3 characters. If its' a great, but not a definitive classic game, I am okay with 2 characters (Pit and Paletuna, since I kinda dislike the idea of a mythical creature being playable in smash).

I don't mind people leaving off Little Mac, because I see him hovering around 50/50 chances. That is despite my bro love for Little Mac, of course.

I think we can agree Little Mac will definitely be considered for Smash 4, though. That much I am fairly certain upon. :cool:
John Knight: Okay,, thanks JK! Shiek could be in that roster (again...) but I don't know how it would be possible. In fact, I thought putting Impa from Skyward for replacing Shiek.

Kid Icarus-reps are gonna stay like this though. Palutena and Medusa must get to battle each other face to face sometime, anyway. Going on, Palutena's like Zelda for KI and Medusa is the villain.

Toon Link again, I didn't feel like adding (clone, gaaahhhhh!!!) But then now added him in wishes for him getting luigified. (-l_l-);

Lip... I know her chances seem quite slim, but I still keep rooting for her. She's this wildcard character of mine, someone who I'm rooting the MOST. I know her chances are slim, so I'm not waiting her though: Starfy goes on front of her, ya know.
Impa doesn't seem like she has much of a chance, and really doesn't add anything Sheik already has.

I am okay with Pit and maybe one other Kid Icarus character, but two=??? I don't see it happening, unless Sakurai can easily transfer Paletuna and Medusa into Smash 4.

Toon/Young Link is going to be gradually de-cloned, and I don't see how he won't return.

Lip, again, I can't explain it, but I don't see her happening in smash (this time around). She definitely has a shot, but I just, for some reason, don't picture her in the game. That's not really an opinion of mine, but rather, a gut feeling. I did not hold my gut feeling towards Lip against your roster, though. I think she is actually a solid choice for your roster.
 

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Lip, again, I can't explain it, but I don't see her happening in smash (this time around). She definitely has a shot, but I just, for some reason, don't picture her in the game. That's not really an opinion of mine, but rather, a gut feeling. I did not hold my gut feeling towards Lip against your roster, though. I think she is actually a solid choice for your roster.
But you might be right bit there. But still, we might never know. Sakurai might suprise us. I remember that he actually said Panel De Pon was a masterpiece, which IMO is quite a plus. So far we've had also Lip's Stick, one song, and few stickers. I dunno what's next, but I think SSB-series will gradually get to have Lip as playable.

Thanks a lot tho!
 
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I could not find a spot for Little Mac in the way I organized the roster, I suppose I could have thrown him in the Zelda column and drop Mii.
You could always switch out Paper Mario for Little Mac if you wanted too.

I feel as Little Mac, Starfy, Takamaru and Lip will eventually become playable in a Smash game. I'm thinking that Little Mac and Takamaru will appear in SSB4 with Starfy being either now or SSB5 and Lip being in SSB5.
 

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Ridley has a relatively thin frame, I pictured him a little heavier than Marth.

:phone:
I agree with that. Unless Ridley is decently bigger than Charizard, he should certainly be lighter, being a gangly pterodactyl and all.
 

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Well, I finally decided to return to this out of sheer boredom :p I doubt anyone remembers me but whatever. Anyhow, it seems we're doing rosters, so I dug up my old one and made some slight adjustments. It's meant to be a blend of realism, although if I couldn't determine what character would realistically fill a slot I just picked a personal favorite. Enjoy!

*=comment below
Bold=newcomer

[collapse=Roster]Mario
-Mario
-Luigi
-Peach
-Bowser
-Bowser Jr.
-Paper Mario*

Donkey Kong
-Donkey Kong
-Diddy Kong
-King K. Rool

Yoshi
-Yoshi

Wario
-Wario

The Legend of Zelda
-Link
-Zelda\Sheik
-Ganondorf*
-Toon Link*
-Ghirahim*

Metroid
-Samus\ZSS
-Ridley

Pokemon
-Pikachu
-Jigglypuff
-Pokemon Trainer
-Gen 5\6 Pokemon*

Kid Icarus
-Pit
-Medusa

Kirby
-Kirby
-Meta Knight
-King Dedede

Star Fox
-Fox
-Falco
-Wolf

Fire Emblem
-Marth
-Ike
-Non-Lord FE rep*

EarthBound
-Ness
-Lucas

F-Zero
-Captain Falcon
-Black Shadow*

Other Nintendo Franchises
-Ice Climbers
-Mr. Game & Watch
-Olimar
-R.O.B.
-Little Mac
-Isaac
-Saki
-Starfy
-Lip
-Takamaru*

3rd Party
-Sonic
-Snake
-Megaman
-Slime*
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*Paper Mario- I have a slight preference for him against Toad. I wouldn't mind Toad though as long as he has a good moveset.

*Ganondorf- Needs to have his moveset totally redone so he's actually a Zelda character rather than a ripoff of Captain Falcon.

*Toon Link- Needs a lot of de-cloning done, although he should still be a semi-clone of Link.

*Ghirahim- I used to be opposed to him, but Nintendo has done a much better job with him than with Zant so I could see the fabulous lord of evil in SSB4.

*Gen 5\6 Pokemon- There are so many potential Pokemon that could be in this slot and it's impossible to choose, especially since a new Pokemon game could come out between now and SSB4's release date, adding in many new reps.

*Non-Lord FE Rep- I don't know enough about FE to pick one in particular, although I know Micaiah and Caeda are top candidates. I'm just sick of seeing only Lords representing FE.

*Black Shadow- Inherits a slightly buffed version of Ganondorf's old moveset. If Ganondorf's moveset gets redone, there's going to be a Mewtwo-esque explosion of people complaining about the absence.

*Takamaru- I switched Shulk out for him because he's a lot safer of a bet.

*Slime- I prefer Black Mage but Slime seems a lot more popular.

*Dr. Mario and Young Link- can exist as alternate costumes for existing characters. No need to take up roster space with them.

*Roy- I really don't see the appeal for him and he was only put into Melee for promotional purposes. I don't see him returning.

*Mewtwo and Lucario- I like both of these characters but I don't see them being on-disc. However, I personally believe SSB4 will have DLC, so that's where I see these two coming in.
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No Ridley should be slightly heavier than Charizard because they are pretty similar in some ways to me, or around Bowser Weight Class.

Now that I think of it I wanna see Bowser and Ridley Wrestle.:)
Ridley is skinnier than Bowser and Charizard though. It's not that unheard of for tall characters to be in the lighter weight categories; Waluigi is an example of this.
 

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I feel as Little Mac, Starfy, Takamaru and Lip will eventually become playable in a Smash game. I'm thinking that Little Mac and Takamaru will appear in SSB4 with Starfy being either now or SSB5 and Lip being in SSB5.
Could be. But I really wish for Starfy to strive it SSB4. Lip again, if not here, then definitely in SSB5.
 

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The funny thing is that if it were not for the hoaxer having King Hippo and showing off his dismal Japanese writing, the hoax would have been a lot more believable.
 

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I still think Bowser should be the biggest, heaviest character. Nothing stopping them from making Bowser even larger than he was in Brawl. He was bigger in Brawl than he was in Melee, after all.

Ridley can be second largest. BD

Then K. Rool I guess.
 
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@Pseudomaniac: I remember you. Alright, I'll give a shot at your roster.
Pseudomaniac said:
Pokemon
-Pikachu
-Jigglypuff
-Pokemon Trainer
-Gen 5\6 Pokemon*
The Pokemon franchise will almost certainly get five slots. Mewtwo has plenty of reasons to come back. Possibly the most wanted character for SSB4, recently regained relevancy due to Nobunga x Pokemon, and remains one of the most important Pokemon to this date. Sakurai has also stated he loves all of his characters, so Lucario has a decent chance of returning as well since I assure you that Sakurai will try to bring back all Nintendo vets into the game. Pick between Mewtwo or Lucario to put in.
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Kid Icarus
-Pit
-Medusa
Medusa is a good choice, but I think Palutena will get the second slot since she is more important to the series. Have Palutena take the second slot and decide whenever or not Kid Icarus warrants a second slot.
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Fire Emblem
-Marth
-Ike
-Non-Lord FE rep*
The choices for a third FE rep is either Roy or Krom (if you haven't heard, he's the lord of FE13).
Pseudomaniac said:
Other Nintendo Franchises
-Ice Climbers
-Mr. Game & Watch
-Olimar
-R.O.B.
-Little Mac
-Isaac
-Saki
-Starfy
-Lip
-Shulk*
Not seeing Shulk in this game. I doubt Sakurai is going to add a newcomer from a series with only one game. Drop him.
 

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Well, I finally decided to return to this out of sheer boredom :p I doubt anyone remembers me but whatever. Anyhow, it seems we're doing rosters, so I dug up my old one and made some slight adjustments. It's meant to be a blend of realism, although if I couldn't determine what character would realistically fill a slot I just picked a personal favorite. Enjoy!

*=comment below
Bold=newcomer

[collapse=Roster]Mario
-Mario
-Luigi
-Peach
-Bowser
-Bowser Jr.
-Paper Mario* [I'd rather Toad or to save the spot for a WarioWare/Land character.]

Donkey Kong
-Donkey Kong
-Diddy Kong
-King K. Rool

Yoshi
-Yoshi

Wario
-Wario

The Legend of Zelda
-Link
-Zelda\Sheik
-Ganondorf*
-Toon Link*
-Ghirahim* [He might not even be notable before Smash 4 comes out. He's a great character and all, but one-offs are very hard to choose.]

Metroid
-Samus\ZSS
-Ridley

Pokemon
-Pikachu
-Jigglypuff
-Pokemon Trainer [No. Unless it's 3rd Gen, we can replace him with either a 1st Gen or a 3rd Gen character. Or you can return everyone from Brawl and add two new characters. Too many 1st Gen as is, and it doesn't help that you're bringing back a character who's exactly the same as earlier. We should have atleast two new Pokemon.]
-Gen 5\6 Pokemon*

Kid Icarus
-Pit
-Medusa

Kirby
-Kirby
-Meta Knight
-King Dedede

Star Fox
-Fox
-Falco
-Wolf

Fire Emblem
-Marth
-Ike
-Non-Lord FE rep*

EarthBound
-Ness
-Lucas

F-Zero
-Captain Falcon
-Black Shadow*

Other Nintendo Franchises
-Ice Climbers
-Mr. Game & Watch
-Olimar
-R.O.B.
-Little Mac
-Isaac
-Saki
-Starfy [Unneeded. Nor is it realistic. There's too many retros and randoms. There's a lot other choices. Like Krystal.]
-Lip
-Shulk*

3rd Party
-Sonic
-Snake
-Megaman
-Slime* [Choose somebody who has limps, please. Not interested in him at all.]
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*Paper Mario- I have a slight preference for him against Toad. I wouldn't mind Toad though as long as he has a good moveset.

*Ganondorf- Needs to have his moveset totally redone so he's actually a Zelda character rather than a ripoff of Captain Falcon.

*Toon Link- Needs a lot of de-cloning done, although he should still be a semi-clone of Link.

*Ghirahim- I used to be opposed to him, but Nintendo has done a much better job with him than with Zant so I could see the fabulous lord of evil in SSB4.

*Gen 5\6 Pokemon- There are so many potential Pokemon that could be in this slot and it's impossible to choose, especially since a new Pokemon game could come out between now and SSB4's release date, adding in many new reps.

*Non-Lord FE Rep- I don't know enough about FE to pick one in particular, although I know Micaiah and Caeda are top candidates. I'm just sick of seeing only Lords representing FE.

*Black Shadow- Inherits a slightly buffed version of Ganondorf's old moveset. If Ganondorf's moveset gets redone, there's going to be a Mewtwo-esque explosion of people complaining about the absence.

*Shulk- I don't know a whole lot about him but I know he's recently became fairly popular and his game has won awards.

*Slime- I prefer Black Mage but Slime seems a lot more popular.

*Dr. Mario and Young Link- can exist as alternate costumes for existing characters. No need to take up roster space with them.

*Roy- I really don't see the appeal for him and he was only put into Melee for promotional purposes. I don't see him returning.

*Mewtwo and Lucario- I like both of these characters but I don't see them being on-disc. However, I personally believe SSB4 will have DLC, so that's where I see these two coming in.
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Not bad, a bit better. Too many randoms, there's better Square-Enix choices than a blob as is. Go for Slime Knight, Chocobo, Terra, tons of choices.
 

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Look at Bowser in Sunshine or Galaxy 2. HE'S HUGE! I mean Bigger than Mega Mario.
Seriously.



Very few Nintendo characters have been larger than Bowser has been. To be the biggest character just FITS him more than anyone else. I mean, Ridley's only been like 20 feet tall at his largest.
 

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Not bad, a bit better. Too many randoms, there's better Square-Enix choices than a blob as is. Go for Slime Knight, Chocobo, Terra, tons of choices.
I think any character is a better choice then Chocobo ._.

The only reason why I'd agree with Slime is because of Fortune Street. Damn you, Mario! Always kickin' with the crossovers Lol

@Oasis Actually, if I recall, he made himself bigger in Super Mario Galaxy 2.
 

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@Oasis Actually, if I recall, he made himself bigger in Super Mario Galaxy 2.
Mario Never changed size in Galaxy 1 or 2 only in NSMB DS He had a Mega Shroom but thats it not counting the normal shroom that make him normally bigger.

Edit:you talkin bout bowser? still in Sunshine He was Huge from the start
 
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