New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Oasis_S]

If we get an Endless Ocean stage, does that mean I can hop on whales and punch sharks.

Pick up an octopus and you get ink all over the screen.

 

[Starphoenix]

Tough call Star.

But after some thought, and remembering what Sakurai stated about Miis, I'll have to go with Wii Sports Resort.

EDIT: Are you going to do a DS one?

More then likely, but I want to get some decent results. If I had a better name I could probably draw more attention, but hey it is what it is.

 

[augustoflores]

my reasoning for wario land shake it is so i can have my pancakes... i haven't had any pancakes in quite some time, and iHOP is just a few steps away from me. (translation: i want captain syrup to have a stage. yes, i want captain syrup playable...)

 

[JavaCroc]

I've posted this on Nsider and Gamefaqs, so I will post it here and start gauging everyone's selections.

This poll is to see what post-Brawl Wii game you want to see a stage taken from for the next Super Smash Bros title. My recommendation is to look through the choices listed above so you can have a good feel for the choice you wish to make, but it is up to you. Feel free to comment and discuss your reasoning for your selection, or simply state your selection. If there is a Nintendo game, and yes it must be from Nintendo, not listed that you want to vote for let me know and I will discuss including it. As of now I believe I have most all of the big names listed, but I could always be mistaken. Have fun and hopefully this will garner a good turnout.

New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Super Mario Galaxy
Kirby's Epic Yarn
Kirby's Return To Dreamland
Metroid Prime Trilogy
Metroid: Other M
Donkey Kong Country Returns
Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
Poképark Wii
Wario Land: Shake It
Wii Sports Resort
Punch Out!!
Sin and Punishment: Star Successor
Rythym Heaven Wii
Endless Ocean
Excitebots
FlingSmash
Xenoblade
The Last Story
Pandora's Tower

Copy and paste because I am too lazy.

One choice??? Now this is hard. I really want a Wario Land stage or Gaur Plains, but I'm putting my vote down for a Super Mario Galaxy stage. With two games to draw upon, there's so much potential.

All Endless Ocean songs would be by OceanLab. They make me want to fall into the Ocean and drift away~ Just like that game makes me want to do.

Gotta love the sound of trance music. Makes you want to sleep the day away.

EDIT: Got back from listening to this Skyrim trailer's music. I don't think I can listen to another song for the rest of the night. See ya guys.

my reasoning for wario land shake it is so i can have my pancakes... i haven't had any pancakes in quite some time, and iHOP is just a few steps away from me. (translation: i want captain syrup to have a stage. yes, i want captain syrup playable...)

*high-fives for wanting Syrup too*

 

[Deleted member]

I want a Super Mario Galaxy stage the most.

 

[Kantrip]

My top three for stages:

1. Donkey Kong Country Returns
2. Kirby's Epic Yarn
3. Mario Galaxy

These three games could provide something very unique for a stage, with a lot of character.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Bowser's Castle, anything Fire Emblem-based, a new F-Zero track, a less campy/stalling Mother stage, Peach's Castle back(well, Rainbow Cruise wasn't bad, mind you), Mute City back, Super Mario Galaxy stage, Skyward Sword stage(and Spirit Tracks). Let's see... perhaps one of the Sonic stages based around technology.

 

[Shorts]

If I was Sakurai: Shortiecanbrawl

If I was Sakurai, this is how SSB4 would go.

Roster stuff

Roster descisions would between ME, fan demand (Poll results), my staff, and other Nintendo big wigs. Ultimately, what I say would go, expect in the case of Nintendo big wigs, if they want some Chrome seperate from Liz, then they get that. ERG.

My cuts would be MINIMAL. After seeing how Pokemon Trainer played, I would cut Squirtle, and Ivysaur, and keep Charizard around. Snake and Sonic would also be cut. Toon Link, Lucas, Falco, Wolf, and Ganondorf would be more decloned. By this I mean, SOME/MOST/ALL B specials would be either different spins on Fox's (Like Falco's kicky thing) OR BRANNNNND NEW.

As far as newcomers go:

1-2 Donkey Kong slots (K. Rool would be for sure in, and if time permits we would have Dixie be the second character. Although she is 100% up for cuts)
2 Pokemon slots (The fifth Gen slot would be up for talk with Me, my staff, and anything Ninty has to say. I would also throw out who was most wanted via fan demand. I would be looking for a Pokemon that can bring something new, which they all can. Victini honestly would be my last pick. Zoroark next. My vote would be for Meloetta and Genesect. With Genesect in the lead. HOWEVER, ultimately, we would probably choose Victini. The second Pokemon would be between Mewtwo, Meowth, and Deoxys, but Mewtwo would probably be chosen to return. No brainer really.)
1 Kid Icarus slot (Completely up to my staff. If Medusa seems like she could play cool, we pick her. If Palutena could, then her. I want them to get "creative" and show me what they could do)
1 Fire Emblem slot (Would prbably be Roy, unless Chrome&Liz's game is taken well, than we would scrap Roy and begin on them ASAP OVERDRIVE!!)
1 F-Zero slot (Samurai Goroh. No questions asked)
1 Metroid slot (Ridley. No questions asked)
1 StarFox character (Krystal IF time permits it. She would be, like Dixie, up for scrapping if we had to GO INTO MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE)
1 Mario/Wario slot (Between Ashley/Syrup/Junior/Toad. I would decide with my staff who would be picked. (Probably not Toad) and IF TIME PERMITS IT, they would be added.
1 LoZ slot (Tingle. Done. IF TIME PERMITS)
4 Smaller franchises (Tom Nook of Animal Crossing, Isaac of Golden Sun, and either Kanan of The Last Story, OR Shulk of Xenoblade. Depending on if Xeno gets worldwide release. If not, I'm going with Kanan. If it does, then I would probably go with Shulk. A most popular fan choice)
1 Retro slot (Would be between DKJR, my staff's choice, and the fan's most popular choice)
Most Popular fan choice (if it's Little Mac, or Megaman. I would add them)

SO ULTIMATE BEST CASE SCENARIO we would have 54. Regular best case scenario 52, wost case we would have 48. (Counting Sheik and ZSS)

*****Possible cut characters: This is the order of importance they go in, and by importance I mean, if we only had to cut TWO, we would cut the bottom two on this list.
Dixie Kong
Krystal
Ashley/Syrup/Junior
Tingle

*If we had like, MEGA amounts of time left over, we would pick up the scrapped Roy, and the scrapped Palutena/Medusa and finish it.

So, comments? I plan on doing other parts of this, like stages/modes later.

 

[---]

Hmm, that reminds me I'll have to resend you my roster. Although I'm wondering if it'd be better if you started your own topic in the backroom for that.

As for a KI moveset, I'm currently working on it despite my inner fanboyism telling me to wait until Uprising comes out. So far it has some Vergil and Strider (UMvC3) in it.

 

[Big-Cat]

I'm still waiting to see a full version of the moveset. I just remembered though. Couldn't Ghirahim use something like Vergil's hyper?

 

[---]

Well it's nice to see I have a fan. So I'll be sure to start working on a full moveset.

Which hyper? The swords or the devil armor thing?

 

[Shorts]

I still want to see a heavy small character. Jill Dozzzzzzzerrrr. I really like her right now, for some reason. Same with Chrome&Liz team. I could see them working in a way similar to Popo and Nana, but Liz would be a more Magic/Heal based, less physical/jump aid type character. I think they could pay off well, like the IC's and Olimar, unlike PT.

 

[Big-Cat]

Well it's nice to see I have a fan. So I'll be sure to start working on a full moveset.

Which hyper? The swords or the devil armor thing?

Swords. Swear I saw a trailer with him using something like that against Link.

 

[---]

O.k.

It's funny, I'm using a similar move in my new moveset...

EDIT: So far it seems I'm making more of a glass cannon character. If that's possible in Smash.

 

[Sunnysunny]

Glass canons are hard to do in brawl without making them to weak or too strong.

They have to have damage racking abilties, kill power, and enough speed to actually get in and use there moves, and keep on the pressure.

If we don't have speed, we end up with ganon.
If we don't have kill power, we get a peach. Peach is the closest thing to a class ganon right now when it comes to actually playing aggressive. if ya don't count metaknight. He was far from glass though thanks to his superior DI and that recovery...

 

[---]

I'm not quite sure how to discribe the moveset as of now, but at best guess I think it'll give off a similar feel to Phoenix from MvC3. Which it probably should anyway since I'm doing a goddess.

So far she has decent speed and K.O. abilities, amazing aerial moves and probably the best damage rack up and approach options that could ever happen in Smash. Of course, being very light, floaty, and having a large hitbox doesn't help much.

Anyway I'm just about finished except for damage %, finalizing the moves for balance and feel, along with spell check. If I have time later today I'll post it. But for now it's almost 4 where I live so later.

 

[Shorts]

So a glass cannon is a powerful aggressive character, that IS KILLABLE? Like a glass cannon would be IRL?

That's a cool name. Someone go more in depth with this glass cannon thing. Is that the same as a rushdown? Who would be the closest thing to a rushdown in Smash?

Is campy someone who just sits in one spot and waits for the other person to make a move?...isn't that mostly what Brawl is? I mean I feel like I have the upperhand when I'm not offensive... I've always noticed that, but I did even more tonight. Asage was not used to lag the first round, so I was offensive, and wrecked him. But as soon as he got his footing, it felt like a game of chicken. Waiting for one person to attack, and the other counter/dodge and try to attack. I dunno, it just felt... basic. And a lot of the time, attacking was a bad idea.

I'm REALLY into playstyles. I feel like when characters get unique/specific playstyles that we're actually adding something. One of the (many) reason I LOVE BLAZBLUE.

 

[Berserker.]

Hey shorts. So you wanna know more about Zelda?

Just refer to this guide: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=312594

Glass cannons are not necessarily rush downs but there are also those that are defensive such as Zelda

Also, there are different types of zoning. The first one is the one that uses projectiles and traps to keep away opponents. The second one is the one that punishes opponent's mistakes. The third type is the one that uses his or her range to her advantage to keep away.

^^ All I know about zoning so far

 

[Starphoenix]

So what do you guys think of this?

www.tssznews.com/2011/10/29/rumor-details-emerge-on-wii-u-sonic/

TSSZ has learned Sonic Dimensions, a working title for the next Sonic, will take place directly after Generations and be a spiritual successor to Sonic Colors. We don’t know if this game will necessarily be exclusive to the Wii U, but we’re told it will have visual quality in line with Generations and it will take advantage of many Wii U specific capabilities. That includes the use of the Wii U mini-tablets for up to a 4 person multiplayer, and use of the revised Wii U remote and its touchscreen to destroy enemies and activate powers.

So what’s the gimmick this time? TSSZ has learned Dimensions’s storyline will center around another time-space continuum shift at the hands of Eggman that not only alters Sonic’s world, but himself. Sonic will allegedly split into multiple personalities denoted by color–each of which having their own unique abilities. That’s right, if this holds, recolored Sonics are now a reality.

In addition to the main Sonic, which will remain blue and act as a core uniting “ghost” of sorts in-game, we’re told there will be five other colors: Red, Orange, Purple, Green, and Yellow. We were told very specific things about each Sonic. Red Sonic, for example, can cause explosions to presumably open up new areas, but has a slow speed and a short jump. Purple Sonic, allegedly parodying Shadow and Silver, will be able to move platforms and float, with the dark nonsensical attitude to boot. And perhaps the most interesting tidbit: our sources compared the Orange personality to Big the Cat, a lumbering hedgehog even slower than his red counterpart…until he’s powered up. There is also a yellow Sonic–not a Super Sonic–that will be the fastest of them all, but take damage easily. The source alleges only two of the personalities can be used in-stage, but all may be able to combine and act as an equivalent Super Guide. The White Sonic allegedly pops up as an option after dying in a stage a certain number of times. Using it guarantees the lowest rank at the end.

If that sounds a lot like a Nintendo idea, that’s because it is, and no wonder; we’ve learned Sega is allegedly working directly with some Nintendo developers on this game. That’s in addition to most of, if not the entire staff for Sonic Colors being back on board for Dimensions. The Nintendo developers are allegedly assisting Sega design the levels, which we’re told will be more surreal, on similar thinking as Colors. Music Plant from Sonic Advance 2 was cited as a stage that may see its ideas and concepts revived for Dimensions.

The final item of note from our source is yet another assurance that we will see some 2D gameplay within, and those mechanics will be “directly ripped” from the classic Sonic physics, though we’ve heard that line for a while.

Well, if this is true that Nintendo is assisting Sega in developing the next Sonic title than I could see Sonic making an encore appearance in the next Super Smash Bros. Not that games really affect much, but it shows that Nintendo has a vested interest in the Blue Hedgehog.

 

[Berserker.]

This Sonic game is sounding cool so far.

It may affect Sonic's "chances" positively.

@Zelda topic: So in short, Zelda is outweighed by her cons. Most notably, her abysmal approach options. She relies on her defensive and safe options. Lastly, she only has a few useful moves. Not even din's fire is that useful but I enjoy using her anyway. She's my 2nd main along with Diddy (Not Falco anymore).

 

[Oasis_S]

"Purple Sonic, allegedly parodying Shadow and Silver, will be able to move platforms and float, with the dark nonsensical attitude to boot."

That's the best part.

 

[Berserker.]

@Brosis: COMBINATION OF SILVER AND SHADOW!?

**** this ****

*Leaves*

..........

*Comes back*

What now? Oh--- Just in time Iookie.

 

[Conviction]

Why would they ever mix Shadow with that Thing that came from Sonic '0glitch

 

[Berserker.]

Why would they ever mix Shadow with that Thing that came from Sonic '0glitch

Why would they ever mix Silver with that Thing that came from that wannabe shadow the failure game

 

[Starphoenix]

I have no idea. From what I hear this website is pretty dead on and consistent with their Sonic game leaks, but it only takes one time to be wrong. While it could be accurate take it with a grain of salt for now.

 

[Berserker.]

At least it's just grain of salt.

That means the whole purple Sonic bull**** could be a lie.

 

[SmashChu]

So what do you guys think of this?
..........................................
Well, if this is true that Nintendo is assisting Sega in developing the next Sonic title than I could see Sonic making an encore appearance in the next Super Smash Bros. Not that games really affect much, but it shows that Nintendo has a vested interest in the Blue Hedgehog.

I don't think it will effect his inclusion.

I will say that it kind of shows Nintendo is getting weaker and weaker at making fun games. When I read through it, the idea seemed really dumb and like another bad Sonic idea. Than I heard that Nintendo was helping and giving them ideas. I really want Nintendo to return to the days of Yamauchi.

..........of course, this is all rumors.

 

[Conviction]

I don't think it will effect his inclusion.

I will say that it kind of shows Nintendo is getting weaker and weaker at making fun games. When I read through it, the idea seemed really dumb and like another bad Sonic idea. Than I heard that Nintendo was helping and giving them ideas. I really want Nintendo to return to the days of Yamauchi.

..........of course, this is all rumors.

I.....agree....with you. This sounds like another Sonic Unleashed (oh lord) I rather them scrap the idea and still try to flesh out the Adventures playstyle or possibly make some new playstyle since Generations has perfect the Unleashed forumla.

Why would they ever mix Silver with that Thing that came from that wannabe shadow the failure game

Shadow the Hedgehog (SA2)>Silver the Hedgehog (in any game he appeared in)

 

[yani_]

On the topic of Dixie v King K.Rool

I think Dixie has a better chance of getting in over K.Rool. Considering they're starting with Brawl as a base. She's sorta in there, meaning he was definitely interested in her.

edit:Keeping in mind I do both want them both in

 

[Deleted member]

@Starphoenix: If true, that would be awesome. I for one would like to see Sonic return. Perhaps he could bring Ta...

*gets gun pointed at him*

Never mind.

 

[Berserker.]

Shadow the Hedgehog (SA2)>Silver the Hedgehog (in any game he appeared in)

Shadow the Hedgehog himself < Silver the Hedgehog himself

And....

Shadow the Hedgehog (in any game he appeared in

Spoiler

other than SA 2 since I loved that game

) < Silver the hedgehog (Sonic 06)

 

[yani_]

He better return.

 

[Conviction]

@Starphoenix: If true, that would be awesome. I for one would like to see Sonic return. Perhaps he could bring Ta...

*gets gun pointed at him*

Never mind.

Don't even.

Shadow the Hedgehog himself > Silver the Hedgehog himself

And....

Shadow the Hedgehog (in any game he appeared in) > Silver the hedgehog (Sonic 06)

Fixed the signs for you.

 

[Conviction]

Big The Cat>Silver

 

[Berserker.]

Fixed the signs for you.

Big The Cat<<Silver

 

[Conviction]

My reward on opposite day?

 

[Berserker.]

*Looks at the date where the opposite day episode was made*

Wrong. Opposite day is on September 11

 

[Diddy Kong]

Diddy and Pikachu are kind of glass canon characters actually. That's why they are my favorites

 

[Starphoenix]

Guess what I just found out? One of the other artists from SUPERSWEEP, Yasuhisa Watanabe, helped create one of my favorite soundtracks from the Dreamcast era (Psychic Force 2012). I swear, if the SUPERSWEEP team does not come together and do another soundtrack for Nintendo I WILL cry.

 

[Berserker.]

Don't know the sound track you're talking about but I'll try listening to it in Youtube.

*SIGH* You edit too fast :I

Edit: I do not know the game but I must say, the music is awesome. Kinda reminded me of F-Zero for some reason especially with the burning attack in the picture.