New Smash Bros for WiiU

[refugee]

Eh, we just established that Banjo is now in a "what if" scenario, so I think the conversation is kinda done.

I guess you're right, back to the Toad/Bowser Jr. argument then.

 

[Chidosengan]

I guess you're right, back to the Toad/Bowser Jr. argument then.

Wish we didn't. We're going back 3 years with this conversation again. But if we have to, then here's my two cents (if they even worth a damn):

Both Bowser Jr and Toad have seem more limelight as of late. Toad has been playable in the last Mario game (two of them no less), and Bowser Jr has been used as a baddie constantly since Mario Sunshine. I can say that both of them have a really good chance. I don't know who will Sakurai will choose, if he even chooses any of the at all. It doesn't really matter how much fan following a characters has, that won't give them a slot. Look at Ridley in Brawl, he had an insane following, and all he got was 2 boss battles in SSE,

 

[refugee]

Wish we didn't. We're going back 3 years with this conversation again. But if we have to, then here's my two cents (if they even worth a damn):

Both Bowser Jr and Toad have seem more limelight as of late. Toad has been playable in the last Mario game (two of them no less), and Bowser Jr has been used as a baddie constantly since Mario Sunshine. I can say that both of them have a really good chance. I don't know who will Sakurai will choose, if he even chooses any of the at all. It doesn't really matter how much fan following a characters has, that won't give them a slot. Look at Ridley in Brawl, he had an insane following, and all he got was 2 boss battles in SSE,

Yeah I fine both have a equal chance to get in myself. Both are important characters and have a lot of popularity.

 

[Dynamo68]

He is a cool character but unfortunately he is also generic enemy character so the only hope for him would be to be a enemy in adventure mode.

You never know, he can make a good fighter, ya know?

 

[refugee]

You never know, he can make a good fighter, ya know?

Well until one of them gets a unique identity and has an important role in a future Yoshi Island game I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

 

[Glöwworm]

Glad to see my mention of B&K started a discussion XD

EDIT: Partnered with a bird that rivals Falco in trashtalking.

Haha, yes, I remember Kazooie being quite the trash talker.

 

[Dynamo68]

Well until one of them gets a unique identity and has an important role in a future Yoshi Island game I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

Well, technically, Bandit had an important role in Yoshi's Island (SNES). He's constantly trying to steal Baby Mario from Yoshi. That makes him a constant antagonist. And the moveset I made up for him seems possible.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Well, technically, Bandit had an important role in Yoshi's Island (SNES). He's constantly trying to steal Baby Mario from Yoshi. That makes him a constant antagonist. And the moveset I made up for him seems possible.

That doesn't matter. Bandits are generic enemies, so they're most likely going to be limited to being Adventure Mode enemies.

 

[refugee]

Well, technically, Bandit had an important role in Yoshi's Island (SNES). He's constantly trying to steal Baby Mario from Yoshi. That makes him a constant antagonist. And the moveset I made up for him seems possible.

Yeah the species but it wasn't any particular one. Also that is a minor role considering how all the other enemies were trying to kill Yoshi which would have the same effect so they didn't have an important role either besides what a minor enemy would do.

That doesn't matter. Bandits are generic enemies, so they're most likely going to be limited to being Adventure Mode enemies.

This right here. ^

 

[Chidosengan]

Well, technically, Bandit had an important role in Yoshi's Island (SNES). He's constantly trying to steal Baby Mario from Yoshi. That makes him a constant antagonist. And the moveset I made up for him seems possible.

Well technically every baddie in the game was. At least they were out for Yoshi's blood.

 

[Steam]

I just now realized how fanboyish someone seems when their avatar matches the character they support.

I should not have had a riolu avvy.

 

[Shorts]

Well, technically, Bandit had an important role in Yoshi's Island (SNES).

Even for my standards, that game did come out a long time ago, and relevance is a virtue here.

As for the Toad/Bowser Jr. debate. Toads chances were best during 64, Melee, and to a lesser extent, Brawl. Now that Bowser Jr. is consistantly making an appearance as an actually important character, he deserves the spot more than Toad. IMO. Back when Bowser Jr. was only in Sunshine/Double Dash Toad lovers actually had an arguement. We all know that Miyomoto picked two Toads for NSMBWii because he was lazy. He even said making Wario/Peach would require him to make someone that isn't similar to Mario's shape. Bowser Jr. is pretty much in your face the whole time in that game. He's also made appearances in both Galaxy games, and had a major role in SMS of course. I'm sure we will see him in Super Mario Mii (if it moves past the Beta stage). You can't argue Toad is more important. More popular, I suppose, but not more important.

I wonder if Bowser Jr. will make an appearance in super Mario 3D? It reminds me heavily of SM64, who had pretty much no Semi-Boss elements.

I just now realized how fanboyish someone seems when their avatar matches the character they support.

I support a Britney Spears, Ke$ha, Nicki Minaj team who will work like the Ice climbers. They will be Femme Fatale Tier.

 

[Fatmanonice]

The Mario franchise really doesn't need any more characters. You already have all the main characters and, if anything, I'd prefer smaller franchises to get more reps especially with how Sakurai's goal is not to surpass 50 characters. If nobody is cut that leaves 11 spots left and I can make a list of realistic franchises that are not yet represented in Smash that would fill at least half those spots, nevermind the franchises already represented that have strong contenders that have been waiting for their chance since Melee.

 

[Barbasol]

I've been thinking about the Paper Mario discussion lately. And I thought to myself: Why have Paper Mario himself? The series is quite popular, and probably deserves a rep... But does it have to be Mario?

Why not have another character be added that's in paper form that isn't already represented. Like....:
Rawk Hawk
Dooplis
Koops
Goombella
Vivian
Bobbery
etc.

That makes a lot of sense to me. Thoughts?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Well technically every baddie in the game was. At least they were out for Yoshi's blood.

I wouldn't really go there. There aren't a lot of enemies in Yoshi's Island who will eat Yoshis.

 

[Chidosengan]

I wouldn't really go there. There aren't a lot of enemies in Yoshi's Island who will eat Yoshis.

It's just a figure of speech.

And now for something completely different:

Why is thread more popular than it's 3DS counterpart?

 

[refugee]

I wouldn't really go there. There aren't a lot of enemies in Yoshi's Island who will eat Yoshis.

Yeah but they are other enemies who do try to steal baby Mario like those monkeys.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

It's just a figure of speech.

And now for something completely different:

Why is thread more popular than it's 3DS counterpart?

Multiplayer obviously. The 3DS doesn't exactly give you that offer, unless you're paired up with other 3DS users.

 

[Dynamo68]

I've been thinking about the Paper Mario discussion lately. And I thought to myself: Why have Paper Mario himself? The series is quite popular, and probably deserves a rep... But does it have to be Mario?

Why not have another character be added that's in paper form that isn't already represented. Like....:
Rawk Hawk
Dooplis
Koops
Goombella
Vivian
Bobbery
etc.

That makes a lot of sense to me. Thoughts?

Bandy Andy, Swindell or Eddie the Mask

 

[Shorts]

The Mario franchise really doesn't need any more characters.

True.

if anything, I'd prefer smaller franchises to get more reps especially with how Sakurai's goal is not to surpass 50 characters.

Can you provide a source?

If nobody is cut that leaves 11 spots

I think that's a pretty big if.

I can make a list of realistic franchises that are not yet represented in Smash that would fill at least half those spots, nevermind the franchises already represented that have strong contenders that have been waiting for their chance since Melee.

Do show.

 

[refugee]

It's just a figure of speech.

And now for something completely different:

Why is thread more popular than it's 3DS counterpart?

Because all the other Smash games have been on consoles so it's a bit easier to know what to expect. That and I think if people had to choose whether Smash appeared only on a handheld or a console they would choose the console.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Yeah but they are other enemies who do try to steal baby Mario like those monkeys.

That's pretty much it. Most enemies only want Baby Mario, and could care less about Yoshi. The Lunge Fish is one of the very few enemies who will eat a Yoshi; this would result in a life loss instantly.

 

[Shorts]

Because all the other Smash games have been on consoles so it's a bit easier to know what to expect. That and I think if people had to choose whether Smash appeared only on a handheld or a console they would choose the console.

That, and everybody is scared poopless at the thought of a customizable SSB game. I know I am.... *shivers* >.>

The Lunge Fish is one of the very few enemies who will eat a Yoshi; this would result in a life loss instantly.

No enemy scares me more than them. Lunge Fish > Bowser, Ganon, Ridley combined

 

[refugee]

That, and everybody is scared poopless at the thought of a customizable SSB game. I know I am.... *shivers* >.>

Yeah I'm worried how that's going to turn out which makes me worried about the Wii U version too.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

It's just a figure of speech.

And now for something completely different:

Why is thread more popular than it's 3DS counterpart?

I know. I think it's really funny how that thread is only on page 3 and this thread is in the hundreds.

@Barbasol

I think paper Mario would be better because he can utilize multiple people you mentioned

 

[Glöwworm]

If this guy gets in, he'll be top tier for sure

 

[refugee]

I know. I think it's really funny how that thread is only on page 3 and this thread is in the hundreds.

@Barbasol

I think paper Mario would be better because he can utilize multiple people you mentioned

Actually it's on like page 8.

EDIT Who is that?

 

[Dynamo68]

Since the Wii U is gonna be so powerful, chances are, the next Smash Bros will have DLC, as in more characters, stages, etc. Then I'll get all the characters I want the day they'd come out (I'm looking at you Bandit).

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I know. I think it's really funny how that thread is only on page 3 and this thread is in the hundreds.

@Barbasol

I think paper Mario would be better because he can utilize multiple people you mentioned

Personally, I just don't see Paper Mario happening, since Mario is already in the roster.

If this guy gets in, he'll be top tier for sure

That's the Deku Tree Sprout, from OoT. He appears in front of the Great Deku Tree after you've cleared the Forest Temple.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

With 40 post per page its on 3

Since we have multiple incarnations of link and supposedly almost had multiple zeldas I don't see why mot

 

[Shorts]

Yeah I'm worried how that's going to turn out which makes me worried about the Wii U version too.

I recall looking back on a very old Pre-Brawl release thread when they first heard about speed changes in the game. I have this quote that best sums up how I feel, only my worries involve the customization.

The speed 'moderately' adjusted? Does this mean wavedashing, teching and L-canceling will be adjusted ?

Yes, yes it does.

 

[refugee]

Since the Wii U is gonna be so powerful, chances are, the next Smash Bros will have DLC, as in more characters, stages, etc. Then I'll get all the characters I want the day they'd come out (I'm looking at you Bandit).

Still not likely since there is often a limited amount of DLC and a minor enemy is not high on the demand list. That and it wouldn't be surprising if Nintendo decides not to do DLC for SSB4.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Still not likely since there is often a limited amount of DLC and a minor enemy is not high on the demand list.

DLC is not free either, so if you lack the money, forget about it.

 

[Steam]

they won't do DLC... they could have with the wii but instead they had all the wiishop channel crap

 

[refugee]

DLC is not free either, so if you lack the money, forget about it.

Sometimes it actually is. : O I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be that expensive though or at least for someone who was already able to afford the system and the game.

 

[Glöwworm]

To be honest, I can't imagine Smash with DLC. If it happens, awesome*. If it doesn't, meh.


*Assuming Nintendo's DLC would be free but if it's not, I DON'T LIKE IT.

 

[Shorts]

they won't do DLC... they could have with the wii but instead they had all the wiishop channel crap

Crap?. . . . . . .

 

[Dynamo68]

Still not likely since there is often a limited amount of DLC and a minor enemy is not high on the demand list. That and it wouldn't be surprising if Nintendo decides not to do DLC for SSB4.

Dude, the Wii U will definitely have DLC. I also think SSB4 will have DLC after the whole backlash that there wasn't any in Brawl.

 

[Glöwworm]

Dude, the Wii U will definitely have DLC. I also think SSB4 will have DLC after the whole backlash that there wasn't any in Brawl.

It better be free then

 

[Dynamo68]

It better be free then

I just hope you're not taking anger on me....