New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Aurane]

Please...please don't bring this up. Keep it off the boards, if you really need me to tell you how I feel about what you just said I'll gladly do so via pm. But it's way off topic.

/restraint

Hey, it's cool bro. Ignore what they're smacking. But if you don't like talking about it, remember in the future not to bring it up. Cool?

I found this awesome Comic. Mewtwo is ashamed:

 

[Steam]

I didn't even really bring it up. I asked why the he'll they were being discussed in the first place. Then flaming occurred. I'm used to this sort of thing anyway.

I have no idea what can be input in this thread

 

[OmegaXXII]

Haha, Mewtwo should kill Deoxys once and for all!!!

 

[Aurane]

I didn't even really bring it up. I asked why the he'll they were being discussed in the first place. Then flaming occurred. I'm used to this sort of thing anyway.

I have no idea what can be input in this thread

I hear ya bro.

GET OFF STEAM'S BACK, PEOPLE!

@King Genesect will kill ALL of them ^^

 

[Metal Overlord]

I love how Deoxys went to Defense Forme on the last part haha

 

[ComradeCanada]

He does? But I still want Mewtwo regardless, better yet, a match-up between the two. :D

@Kantrip: Hot Linking is broken.

Repurposed pokemon made by the enemy team for the purpose of fighting. It's really powerful and it escapes.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Metal, that comic is epic, gonna save it.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Dude, Scratch and Grounder should be AT or in story mode!!

A variation of Scratch appears in Sonic The Hedgehog 2. Both would be great.

And Shadow is pretty arguable on where he falls in hero/villain/antagonist/protagonist route.

 

[Aurane]

Repurposed pokemon made by the enemy team for the purpose of fighting. It's really powerful and it escapes.

T_T You BETTER not be speaking of Genesect, bro. We alrdy stated that you DO NOT know about Genesect yet.

@King I posted that comic...

 

[Steam]

Scratch and grounder are the ****ing best.

Nostalgia ***** nooooooo

 

[OmegaXXII]

A variation of Scratch appears in Sonic The Hedgehog 2. Both would be great.

And Shadow is pretty arguable on where he falls in hero/villain/antagonist/protagonist route.

Yeah, I wish Shadow had a bigger role as well, like as an assist trophy who actually helps you out during Adventure Mode, of course he would be non-playable, just an assist is all, The Black Knight as well.

 

[Arcadenik]

Ahh, I guess the truth hurts.

That comic makes me want Genesect more than Mewtwo, Darkrai, and Deoxys.

 

[---]

Haha, Mewtwo should kill Deoxys once and for all!!!

Should I get the pic?

Also Scratch and Grounder? Awesome, I loved the original Sonic cartoon despite all those youtube poops. Sonic reminded me way to much of a Looney Toon character and I loved it.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Omega, asage posted that comic, not me

And Shadow is at foremost an anti-hero; he has a neutral alignment.

They also had a pink variation of Grounder in Sonic 2 in Aquatic Ruin Zone

We can't have Scratch and Grounder though without PINGAS Robotnik though lol.

 

[Aurane]

I guess everyone forgot about Big the Cat...

 

[Arcadenik]

Why can't people just be glad Deoxys is in Brawl to begin with? -.-

Because it is not the same!

It is just what I told Oasis earlier. Some people just don't want to "see" this character. They want to "play" as this character!

 

[OmegaXXII]

I guess everyone forgot about Big the Cat...

Man, **** that cat, I straight up don't like him, I rather see Omega or Rose.

 

[shinhed-echi]

I don't see how farfetched is giving Duck Hunt Dog a moveset. It's not forced at all. Here's mine, effortlessly (mostly special attacks which might be the main concern).

B: Toss Duck (He can release up to Two ducks, which attack opponents)
B>: Pounce (The little jump he does at the intro. Uses this to grab opponents, similar to Bowser's B> from Melee except with a jumping animation)
BV: Clay Shooter (Charges clay disc and tosses it depending on how much he charged it. Can shoot two per screen)
B^: Fly Away (grabs a hold of two ducks to reach back to the stage. If he gets hit once, he loses a duck, if he gets hit again he loses the other one and falls helplessly)

Final Smash: Duck Season. (A flock of ducks appear from every side of the screen. You point the wii remote to shoot them or your opponents in the meantime) ((<<< remember there's no Gamecube compatibility yet))



I have a couple of other moves in mind, related to the Zapper, dog moves including a FETCH recovery, or a tether recovery using his dog leash, etc.

 

[OmegaXXII]

^^I agree with that post!

 

[Aurane]

I don't see how farfetched is giving Duck Hunt Dog a moveset. It's not forced at all. Here's mine, effortlessly (mostly special attacks which might be the main concern).

B: Toss Duck (He can release up to Two ducks, which attack opponents)
B>: Pounce (The little jump he does at the intro. Uses this to grab opponents, similar to Bowser's B> from Melee except with a jumping animation)
BV: Clay Shooter (Charges clay disc and tosses it depending on how much he charged it. Can shoot two per screen)
B^: Fly Away (grabs a hold of two ducks to reach back to the stage. If he gets hit once, he loses a duck, if he gets hit again he loses the other one and falls helplessly)

Final Smash: Duck Season. (A flock of ducks appear from every side of the screen. You point the wii remote to shoot them or your opponents in the meantime) ((<<< remember there's no Gamecube compatibility yet))



I have a couple of other moves in mind, related to the Zapper, dog moves including a FETCH recovery, etc.

...No. Don't start this again.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Yes, I like shinechi now, props to him.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Hey, it's cool bro. Ignore what they're smacking. But if you don't like talking about it, remember in the future not to bring it up. Cool?

I found this awesome Comic. Mewtwo is ashamed:

Amen to that bro!
I gotta admit… That comic made me chuckle a bit.

 

[Aurane]

Amen to that bro!
I gotta admit… That comic made me chuckle a bit.

Towards neone, the joke is that one of the weaknesses of Psychic and Dark is Bug ^^

But Fire-Type moves are dangerous to it. But if he gets his chance, it won't matter.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Genesect looks like a nice addition, though we'll have to wait and see what happens with Victinii and Zoroark.

 

[Aurane]

Just remember: Genesect's weakness is Fire!

 

[Metal Overlord]

Chaos 0 fer Sm4sh.

That Generations trailer made me want him so badly now.

@asage- Dark-types beat Psychic-types, though (and you know who that is...).

 

[Aurane]

@asage- Dark-types beat Psychic-types, though (and you know who that is...).

Psychic > Dark > Bug > Fire
Mewtwo Darkrai Genesect Victini

Note that Mewtwo will thrash Darkrai up and down. His stats are VERY superior to Darkrai's.

Alright, folks, I'm off to bed. G'Night.

 

[Arcadenik]

@ Victini

Keldeo says hi.

Oh, and Genesect beats Zoroark.

 

[Steam]

Mewtwo will just **** victini with his vastly superior stats. And darkrai too with aura sphere

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

@Asage: ...Many WANT to forget about Big the Cat.

@King: Well, I can forgive having less Sonic stuff in Brawl due to the late inclusion. But not for the lack of Black Knight. It's not like they didn't have TIME to do it. It'd beat a generic boss who wasn't needed.

 

[Aurane]

Mewtwo will just **** victini with his vastly superior stats. And darkrai too with aura sphere

Why can't we be friends?

I'm tired. Good night all.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Mewtwo will always be my favorite Pokemon, no doubt.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Mewtwo will always be my favorite Pokemon, no doubt.

Of course, but don't forget Charizard and Blastoise (the latter of which I still want in Smash)...

But seriously though, I can't believe they put the Final Rush Sonic vs Shadow SA2 boss race in Sonic Generations, I hope at least the music gets in this time around (along with the Metal Harbor, City Escape, Crazy Gadget and Pyramid Cave tracks).

 

[Steam]

I used to think that too.

Then blaziken happened.

Then lucario happened

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

They need to bring Onix back as a Poke Ball Pokemon.

 

[SmashKing201]

I wish they can bring Hitmonlee back as a Pokeball.

 

[Starphoenix]

I'm going to say, Raiden should replace Gray Fox as the Assist Trophy for the Metal Gear series if it returns in Super Smash Bros. Why? Because after watching countless videos for Metal Gear Solid 2's story I feel freaking bad for the guy. Then I fast forward to MGS4 and the guy is being impaled left and right. Give him something!

 

[Deleted member]

@asage94 (#49763): Roy and Mewtwo are some of the most wanted characters for SSB4 in Japan. Roy is at least mildly wanted here and Mewtwo is highly requested to return woldwide. Shortiecanbrawl's poll also have them up pretty high.

@Omega (#49771): You're thinking of Medusa, not Palutena.

@Shortiecanbrawl (#49796): Love the concept. Looking forward to it.

@Arcadenik (#49828): Keldeo should never be in. But I'll give extra points for preferring Genesect over Zoroark.

 

[Shorts]

Steam’s turn to get a the Shorts breakdown.

Mario Franchise: Mario, Luigi, Peach Bowser, Toad, Yoshi, Wario
- Okay, you added a single character. This is fine with me. You picked the best choice, in terms of recognize ability, and popularity. Personally, I think Sakurai is going to keep this slate clean, but adding Toad isn’t a bad idea by any means. He’s a decent choice. 5/5 on the choices made.
- You kept Wario and Yoshi the same, that’s a decent choice as well. Even though I think adding a Wario girl is a good idea, Toad instead is fine.

Donkey Kong Franchise: Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, King K. Rool
- Dixie is nowhere to be found. But just like Mona and Syrup, only adding one DK character is a good choice, although I think you could have been risky and added two. The choice to keep it K. Rool strictly is a good one. I can’t fault you for a thing…. Yet 5/5

LoZ Franchise: Link, Zelda/Sheik, Toon Link, Ganondorf
- You kept the series pretty minimal, and decided to keep Toon Link. It’s a solid choice. Tingle, Ghirahim and Tetra are pretty hit and miss in terms of additions. Essentially, you’ve already added more than enough for what LoZ needs. You have the triforce three, and that’s all they NEED. Could you have given them a bit more lovin’ yes. Did you need to? No. Where you faultered for ME though, is the lack of specifics. I’m assuming Ganon/TLink are playing the same as usual, which leaves the series COMPLETELY unchanged, they’re stale. Not only that, but they’re two characters that get a lot of “clone complaints”. 4/5 for not being detailed.

Kirby Series: Kirby, King Dedede, Metaknight
- I I like it like it. 5/5

Fire Emblem Franchise: Marth, Ike Chrome
- This is where we see a slip up. How many people like Chrome? How many people are Chrome fans? Do we know how he plays? These questions all have unsatisfactory answers, something Roy wouldn’t. While yes, Roy may be similar to Marth, at least we know he has a strong fanbase. You also picked the Blue boys, which…. May not seem like a big deal, but they ll look pretty similar. Chrome is a bad choice AS OF RIGHT NOW. This could change, WHEN we know about how he is received. 3/5

Pokemon Franchise: Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Charizard, Ivysaur, Squirtle, Mewtwo, Lucario, Zoroark
- None of your choices are bad. None. They’re all very good picks. NOW, all of them together.. all NINE of them… maybe not the best decision. I’m all for six slots for Pokemon, I really am. It’s when we get Pokemon Trainers involved where I decide to pull away from six slots, and move to five. The number of Pokemon is a turn off for me. I CAN be done, honestly. It can be done, and still have the general public not bat an eyelash…but should it be done? No. Not In my opinion anyways. You get a 3/5 for doing something that CAN be done, but shouldn’t be.

Mother & Metroid: Samus, ZSS, Ridley, Ness, Lucas
- You picked well. Nothing to complain about. 10/10

F-Zero & Starfox: Captain Falcon, Samurai Goroh, Fox, Falco, Wolf
- You did the right thing. As much as I WANT Krystal, you did the right thing. 10/10

Smaller Franchises: IC’s, Game & Watch, R.O.B, Olimar, Pit, Palutena, Blank retro, Little Mac, Issac, Ray MK
- Generally speaking, you picked well. No overlapping of character types, or anything like that. The one thing I will nick you for is the lack of specifics on the 4th retro, I wanna hear your pick, not just that you have picked. Ray and Palutena are decent choices, and of course Mac and Isaac are good ideas. No problems otherwise. 9/10 for the minor mistake.

Third Party characters: Sonic, Snake, Tails
- OKAY SIR, I honestly think Tails is a legitimate concern, but for you to outwardly put him on the roster…it doesn’t fly with me. BUT, I know where you are coming from. It would be much easier to add Tails, then Megaman, and we would still have fanboys jazzing their pants. So, for that I will leave you with a 3.5/5

OVERALL APPEAL: Good roster. No serious mistakes, outside of Chrome’s unknown fanbase, the lack of detail with TLink/Ganondorf, and Tails. I understand where you came from on all your choices, and I can only say, the one that really snags me up is the Chrome thing. But other then that and the eight Pokemon you kept the roster pretty well balanced. Pokemon needed to lose a character, but besides that you did good.

Steam is a good furry. Add up all the scores and divide to get your Shorts percentage ;D

 

[Johnknight1]

I'm going to say, Raiden should replace Gray Fox as the Assist Trophy for the Metal Gear series if it returns in Super Smash Bros. Why? Because after watching countless videos for Metal Gear Solid 2's story I feel freaking bad for the guy. Then I fast forward to MGS4 and the guy is being impaled left and right. Give him something!

Why not have both=???

Also, did somebody really mention Big the Cat=???

I'm all for free speech, but if you mention Big the Cat here you ougtha be banned. That and Cream. I hate Cream! Heck, I hate all those filler one-dimensional Sonic background characters. I wish they would remain in the background, shut up, and get killed off so Knuckles could be awesome more often.

Edit: That Genesect comic made me want him more. Seriously, any of the current 3 5th Generation of Pokémon frontrunners (Victini, Zoroark, and Genesect) would be solid choices, and could really add a lot to smash bros.

Mewtwo still needs to return! Mewtwo's REVENGE shall be Smash Bros. 4!!!! *enter evil laugh here*