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OmegaXXII

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I feel that both Mach Rider and Duck Hunt Dog can definitely fit certain archetypes, and shouldn't be dismissed due to the apparent absence of them.







HOWEVER, Muddy Mole wouldn't need an archetype, as he is shown in combat. Just saying. People need to give the mole some credit...:cool:
Well I'll give him credit and thank you for ACTUALLY realizing their potential and not automatically dismissing them.

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I do think some characters have less moveset potential than others, which does hurt their chances. Does not make them impossible to do, however.

Although if you're going to suggest characters with a hard to make moveset, please provide one too!
 

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I feel that both Mach Rider and Duck Hunt Dog can definitely fit certain archetypes, and shouldn't be dismissed due to the apparent absence of them.

HOWEVER, Muddy Mole wouldn't need an archetype, as he is shown in combat. Just saying. People need to give the mole some credit...:cool:
Hey now, Mach Rider IS a riding walking archetype that COMBATS alien invaders... on a motorcycle!

...I don't really have anything bad to say about Muddy Mole, though his lack of popularity hurts him tremendously. And just the competition he faces.
 

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I do think some characters have less moveset potential than others, which does hurt their chances. Does not make them impossible to do, however.

Although if you're going to suggest characters with a hard to make moveset, please provide one too!
Not if Sakurai is creative, people need to think outside the box and use their imagination.

Also, Arcadenik created one, I'll have to ask him for it.

@Launch: Well, means I have to be like Frieza? Because Mewtwo is.
I took on Toise's Castlevania offer! :D

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This is SSB4, not Pokemon -_-
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Really? OK, when I get Wi-Fi, We'll battle. Simple as that ;)
Nope. Start posting as well as the "Gym leaders" or even "Significant Pokemon" and you can change. Omega is not Mewtwo. He's Charmander.

@Metal You're becoming a better poster! You evolved into Brock.

Hey now, Mach Rider IS a riding walking archetype that COMBATS alien invaders... on a motorcycle!

...I don't really have anything bad to say about Muddy Mole, though his lack of popularity hurts him tremendously. And just the competition he faces.
I like both Muddy and Mach. Although....I think the Exited Biker has a much cooler get up. Is it sad that I like him....more than Mach Rider? (Retro style of course)
 

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Not if Sakurai is creative, people need to think outside the box and use their imagination.

Also, Arcadenik created one, I'll have to ask him for it.

I took on Toise's Castlevania offer! :D

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It doesn't mean they have the best potential ever. I never said to not be creative. Some are indeed harder to work with. A blob is a tad bit harder to work with with a human when it comes to figuring out moves. That's what I mean.

Never said it couldn't be done, nor did I intend that. I'd just like to see some move lists for characters that aren't as easy to figure out.
 

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I smell fear in the air :laugh:
No, I think it's sheer ignorance. You clearly don't get what I was doing, and that's even more reason to keep you at a started Pokemon level. haha


Anyways, who wants to discuss the retro scale?
 

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Make asage the Snorlax.

Think I'm gonna have to doodle up something Mach Rider and Excited Biker related...
 

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Shortie actually thinks I'm a good poster? That's awesome. :grin:

Anyways, you mentioned something about a retro scale? Sounds pretty interesting, to say the least...
 

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Guys, wat up? Get back into the SSB4 topic, this is irrevolent. I'm gone for this one. I gtg work on moveset mixxing for Bomberman and Victini neways.
 

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Shortie actually thinks I'm a good poster? That's awesome. :grin:

Anyways, you mentioned something about a retro scale? Sounds pretty interesting, to say the least...
The retro scale. It's basically your personal view on "What os retro". I consider Two systems from the latest *twelve years, which is a lot in tech years* to be retro.

Right now: NES SNES N64 GC Wii WiiU

Notice that we have two systems between N64 and thee WiiU? So, basically, I consider N64 and behind to be retro worthy.

Make asage the Snorlax.

Think I'm gonna have to doodle up something Mach Rider and Excited Biker related...
No, he's the freaking Zubat of Mt. Moon. AND YES. I love them. Exited Biker is so lame, I love him. You're basically the reason I like him. *exciteeeeeed PUNCH~ Fwah!*

@Steam. Yes. All Lucarios are *****es of Mewtwo.
 

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The retro scale. It's basically your personal view on "What is retro". I consider Two systems from the latest *twelve years, which is a lot in tech years* to be retro.

Right now: NES SNES N64 GC Wii WiiU

Notice that we have two systems between N64 and thee WiiU? So, basically, I consider N64 and behind to be retro worthy.
Well, I consider the N64 retro now, too, because, well, it's three generations behind. You can't even buy a 64 game now without going to some local pawn shop or eBay or something. So with that said, are there any potential "retro" character from the 5th era that we could include in Smash?

Speaking of which, can we consider Ocarina of Time a legit classic now? It's been almost 15 years since release and it's gotten a few re-releases and a critically and commercially lauded remake.

And also, when will Smash's 15th anniversary be? Is it 2014, or do we have to count the Japanese release in 1998 first? That would make it 2013.
 

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Check the backroom for PKMN updates. I no longer want to discuss them here.

*looks at Sunny and Steam*
 

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Is agumon to good a pokemon? Can I be blue eyes white dragon then?

lol "updates" HAHAHAHAHA! Its just gonna be the same ol same ol about victini zoroark mewtwo and lucario. Talk about pokeball ideas or something if you wanna have a serious discussion instead of the same old rehashed ****.
 

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Steam predicts

Mario Series:


Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Wario
Toad

DK Series

Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
King K. Rool

Yoshi Series
Yoshi

Zelda Series
Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Toon Link

Metroid Series

Samus/ zero suit
Ridley

Kirby Series
Kirby
King Dedede
Metaknight

Earthbound series


Ness
Lucas

Pokemon Series


Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Pokemon Trainer (same as before)
Mewtwo
Lucario
Zoroark

Fire Emblem Series


Marth
Ike
Chrome

F-Zero series

Captain Falcon
Samurai Goroh

Star Fox Series

Fox
Falco
Wolf

Kid Icarus Series

Pit
Palutena

Pikmin Series
Captain Olimar

Retro Series

RoB
Mr. Game and Watch
Ice Cimbers
some 4th one we can't predict.

Other Series

Little Mac (punch out)
Issac (golden sun)
Ray Mk. something (Custom Robo)

3rd Parties

Solid Snake liquidgaseousplasma snake
Sonic
Tails

If I left something horrible out let me know... it's possible. And as much as I hate the sonic series, I predict another rep from them :/
 

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Eh, Ike and Chrome isn't likely going to happen, did you even read what ChronoBound suggested? Roy ADD Roy!!!

Neither is Tails, possibly we might get either Professor Layton , Megaman and Slime are more probable.
 

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Well, I consider the N64 retro now, too, because, well, it's three generations behind. You can't even buy a 64 game now without going to some local pawn shop or eBay or something. So with that said, are there any potential "retro" character from the 5th era that we could include in Smash?
I really have no idea who from the N64 we could consider retro?....DKJr?... I think that was his last major appearence (Mario Tennis)

Speaking of which, can we consider Ocarina of Time a legit classic now? It's been almost 15 years since release and it's gotten a few re-releases and a critically and commercially lauded remake.
Yes, I consider it a classic. Anyways, if SS becomes the "New OoT"...what does that say character wise? I mean, do you think OoT having two characters in Melee was just a fluke?

STEAM, I'll give your list a complete runthrough, like I did for Oasis later tonight. Sound good?

Neither is Tails, possibly we might get either Professor Layton , Megaman and Slime are more probable.
How can you say that with a straight face? Literally, TAILS SHOWED UP IN BRAWL. Layton has so much less of a chance than him or Shadow.
 

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Oasis, you want an archetype for the Duck Hunt Dog? He can be based on cartoon dogs from the old cartoons of the 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s. It suits him very well.
 

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Steam predicts
[COLLAPSE="Steam's Epic Roster"]
Mario Series:


Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Wario
Toad

DK Series

Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
King K. Rool

Yoshi Series
Yoshi

Zelda Series
Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Toon Link

Metroid Series

Samus/ zero suit
Ridley

Kirby Series
Kirby
King Dedede
Metaknight

Earthbound series


Ness
Lucas

Pokemon Series


Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Pokemon Trainer (same as before)
Mewtwo
Lucario
Zoroark

Fire Emblem Series


Marth
Ike
Chrome

F-Zero series

Captain Falcon
Samurai Goroh

Star Fox Series

Fox
Falco
Wolf

Kid Icarus Series

Pit
Palutena

Pikmin Series
Captain Olimar

Retro Series

RoB
Mr. Game and Watch
Ice Cimbers
some 4th one we can't predict.

Other Series

Little Mac (punch out)
Issac (golden sun)
Ray Mk. something (Custom Robo)

3rd Parties

Solid Snake liquidgaseousplasma snake
Sonic
Tails[/COLLAPSE]

If I left something horrible out let me know... it's possible. And as much as I hate the sonic series, I predict another rep from them :/
I'm probably the biggest Sonic fantard around, and even I know that Sonic has practically very little chance of getting a second rep. So I definitely do not agree with you there. And I'd add a little Mega Man in there, too.

Other than those, though, I think your roster's pretty good.
 

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So can you guys talk about mechanics, new item ideas, stage ideas, instead of the same characters we've been talking about this entire thread? (And the past thread for that matter)

I can start if you want. =w=
 
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