New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Berserker.]

Oh yeah? Well, the Blue Falcon is much better.

Karts are for chums...

Ironically, I use karts. Lol.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Karts are for chums...

Ironically, I use karts. Lol.

I think bikes are for noobs.
Every person I go against that uses bikes does constant wheelies. Noobs.

 

[Berserker.]

I think bikes are for noobs.
Every person I go against that uses bikes does constant wheelies. Noobs.

Okay... Let's avoid going off topic.

NOW... Lets talk about Nook, DHD and Animal crosser.

 

[Oasis_S]

Awh man... I was thinking Toad could have an alt color where he uses the original Super Mushroom color scheme, but he'd obviously have his normal color, red, blue, yellow, green, and pink. CAN'T HAVE SEVEN.

And the Villager/Nook and the hunting dog aren't getting in. NEW TOPIC:

I just remembered that there was something saying FE13 won't be getting an international release? Is that confirmed? BECAUSE THAT WOULD CHANGE MY OPINION OF CHROME.

 

[shinhed-echi]

Meh, Mach Rider has to deal with invading aliens because Mike Jones wasn't there to stop them singlehandedly with his yoyo and bananas.



If I ever use Toad, I'd use the Blue one from SMB2. Come to think of it, Blue is pretty much my color scheme of choice for a lot of characters. (Sonic, ROB, P.T., Samus, Luigi, etc)

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I think bikes are for noobs.
Every person I go against that uses bikes does constant wheelies. Noobs.

Doubt you can beat my Dry Bowser on his Flame Runner

 

[Oasis_S]

Meh, Mach Rider has to deal with invading aliens because Mike Jones wasn't there to stop them singlehandedly with his yoyo and bananas.

What if Mike Jones was (one of?) the character(s?) that couldn't be included due to legal reasons DUE to that rapper. That would be balls.

Anyway, what kind of StarTropics STUFF would you settle for since Mike Jones is kind of on the hopeless side?

 

[Steam]

Also, my Wi-Fi is coming soon, and my skills with Lucario have doubled. I think I'm approching Trela and the other guy inch by inch (Altho I have to come to THEM T_T)

I can help teach stuff.

Also I was thinking about posting a roster... just to see what people say :L


okay

Steam predicts

Mario Series:

Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Wario
Toad

DK Series

Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
King K. Rool

Yoshi Series
Yoshi

Zelda Series
Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Toon Link

Metroid Series
Samus/ zero suit
Ridley

Kirby Series
Kirby
King Dedede
Metaknight

Earthbound series

Ness
Lucas

Pokemon Series

Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Pokemon Trainer (same as before)
Mewtwo
Lucario
Zoroark

Fire Emblem Series

Marth
Ike
Chrome

F-Zero series

Captain Falcon
Samurai Goroh

Star Fox Series

Fox
Falco
Wolf

Kid Icarus Series

Pit
Palutena

Pikmin Series
Captain Olimar

Retro Series

RoB
Mr. Game and Watch
Ice Cimbers
some 4th one we can't predict.

Other Series
Little Mac (punch out)
Issac (golden sun)
Ray Mk. something (Custom Robo)

3rd Parties

Solid Snake liquidgaseousplasma snake
Sonic
Tails

If I left something horrible out let me know... it's possible. And as much as I hate the sonic series, I predict another rep from them :/

 

[Big-Cat]

Okay... Let's avoid going off topic.

NOW... Lets talk about Nook, DHD and Animal crosser.

Aka the characters people will rage on because they don't actually fight.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Awh man... I was thinking Toad could have an alt color where he uses the original Super Mushroom color scheme, but he'd obviously have his normal color, red, blue, yellow, green, and pink. CAN'T HAVE SEVEN.

And the Villager/Nook and the hunting dog aren't getting in. NEW TOPIC:

I just remembered that there was something saying FE13 won't be getting an international release? Is that confirmed? BECAUSE THAT WOULD CHANGE MY OPINION OF CHROME.

Why can't you have seven colors? Wario has a ton more.

 

[Oasis_S]

Aka the characters people will rage on because they don't actually fight.

An Animal Crossing character would be COOL, but we should know better than to expect one since Sakurai has actually told us how he feels about them. The duck hunting dog is just a silly choice since people only want it because it laughs at them which can be achieved by an Assist Trophy or stage. /ChronoBound generalizing

@Poppy: Most characters only have six colors at most (SO FAR). Wario is special since he gets six colors per costume. TOAD DON'T GOT THAT.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Awh man... I was thinking Toad could have an alt color where he uses the original Super Mushroom color scheme, but he'd obviously have his normal color, red, blue, yellow, green, and pink. CAN'T HAVE SEVEN.

And the Villager/Nook and the hunting dog aren't getting in. NEW TOPIC:

I just remembered that there was something saying FE13 won't be getting an international release? Is that confirmed? BECAUSE THAT WOULD CHANGE MY OPINION OF CHROME.

Well, that could work. Just make the pink one like a Toadette alt. costume.

 

[ChronoBound]

I can help teach stuff.

Also I was thinking about posting a roster... just to see what people say :L


okay

Steam predicts

Mario Series:

Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Wario
Toad

DK Series

Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
King K. Rool

Yoshi Series
Yoshi

Zelda Series
Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Toon Link

Metroid Series
Samus/ zero suit
Ridley

Kirby Series
Kirby
King Dedede
Metaknight

Earthbound series

Ness
Lucas

Pokemon Series

Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Pokemon Trainer (same as before)
Mewtwo
Lucario
Zoroark

Fire Emblem Series

Marth
Ike
Chrome

F-Zero series

Captain Falcon
Samurai Goroh

Star Fox Series

Fox
Falco
Wolf

Kid Icarus Series

Pit
Palutena

Pikmin Series
Captain Olimar

Retro Series

RoB
Mr. Game and Watch
Ice Cimbers
some 4th one we can't predict.

Other Series
Little Mac (punch out)
Issac (golden sun)
Ray Mk. something (Custom Robo)

3rd Parties

Solid Snake liquidgaseousplasma snake
Sonic
Tails

If I left something horrible out let me know... it's possible. And as much as I hate the sonic series, I predict another rep from them :/

The worst two parts of your roster were having "Mewtwo, Lucario, and Zoroark" and "Marth, Ike, and Chrome".

Having three anthropomorphic Pokemon and three blue-haired swordmans (two of which are muscle-heads wielding large swords) is very redundant. Swap them for Victini and Roy.

Also, Tails is probably the worst choice on your roster. No third-party series should have more than one playable character.

 

[Aurane]

I can help teach stuff.

Also I was thinking about posting a roster... just to see what people say :L


okay

Steam predicts

Mario Series:

Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Wario
Toad

DK Series

Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
King K. Rool

Yoshi Series
Yoshi

Zelda Series
Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Toon Link

Metroid Series
Samus/ zero suit
Ridley

Kirby Series
Kirby
King Dedede
Metaknight

Earthbound series

Ness
Lucas

Pokemon Series

Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Pokemon Trainer (same as before)
Mewtwo
Lucario
Zoroark

Fire Emblem Series

Marth
Ike
Chrome

F-Zero series

Captain Falcon
Samurai Goroh

Star Fox Series

Fox
Falco
Wolf

Kid Icarus Series

Pit
Palutena

Pikmin Series
Captain Olimar

Retro Series

RoB
Mr. Game and Watch
Ice Cimbers
some 4th one we can't predict.

Other Series
Little Mac (punch out)
Issac (golden sun)
Ray Mk. something (Custom Robo)

3rd Parties

Solid Snake liquidgaseousplasma snake
Sonic
Tails

If I left something horrible out let me know... it's possible. And as much as I hate the sonic series, I predict another rep from them :/

Third Parties needs work. Tails could be an option, but let's avoid 2nd reps for 3rd parties. I c no wrong with Lucario, Zoroark, and Mewtwo together, so long as Victini is in the equation Also one other thing. I respect ur generosity to teach me things, but I think I'll be okay

 

[OmegaXXII]

Man, after watching that Phoenix Wright trailer, now I see he either might be broken or useless, looks like high risk, high reward character to me, has an ackward, yet interesting moveset.

 

[Aurane]

Man, after watching that Phoenix Wright trailer, now I see he either might be broken or useless, looks like high risk, high reward character to me, has an ackward, yet interesting moveset.

??? Is it for MvsC3???

 

[OmegaXXII]

And the Villager/Nook and the hunting dog aren't getting in.

Wrong!! You aren't Sakurai to be saying such things, you can't say they "aren't getting in", how many times do I have to say this, don't assume a character isn't getting in, especially any obscure ones.

 

[Aurane]

Wrong!! You aren't Sakurai to be saying such things, you can't say they "aren't getting in", how many times do I have to say this, don't assume a vharacter isn't getting in, especially any obscure ones.

I personally think they won't, either. And I'm not Sakurai T_T Just throwing it out there also, they aren't likely. But then again, who really is at present moment? Obviously Mario, Pikachu, Link, and Kirby.

 

[Oasis_S]

Wrong!! You aren't Sakurai to be saying such things, you can't say they "aren't getting in", how many times do I have to say this, don't assume a character isn't getting in, especially any obscure ones.

The duck hunting dog will not be a playable character.

Oasis_Sakurai has Spoken.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

While I doubt the inclusion of an AC character, and the Duck Hunt Dog outside of an Assist Trophy, both are possible.

 

[Aurane]

The duck hunting dog will not be a playable character.

Oasis_Sakurai has Spoken.

Obviously
Another
Sissy
Into
Sakurai

O_O He might be on to something...
(Jking, no flaming)

 

[OmegaXXII]

I personally think they won't, either. And I'm not Sakurai T_T

Well you don't know that, for all we know they could be the new "WTF" character like G&W, Ice Climbers and ROB were before them, people were pretty confident that they weren't getting in, yet look what happen, if people happen to be against a character that's fine but DON'T say they aren't getting in, just less likely because the fact is; ANY character that meets Sakurai's criteria has a shot at being considered, no matter how obscure that character may be, people are blinded by that.

 

[Aurane]

Well you don't know that, for all we k ow the could be the new "WTF" character like G&W, Ice Climbers and ROB were before them, people were pretty confident that they weren't getting in, yet look what happen, if people happen to be against a character that's fine but DON'T say they aren't getting in, just less likely because the fact is; ANY character that meets Sakurai's criteria has a shot at being considered, no matter how obscure that character may be, people are blinded by that.

I said I personally wouldn't see Dog and the other in this. Logically, maybe Dog as a assist. Ice Climbers fought (sort of) on there game. ROB was nvr explained into what he did, and G&W is outrageous in the gaming series, having done so many wierd things. The dog has only come out to laugh at you. If any WTF characters VS Nook and Dog, it's Tingle, and I hate him.

 

[Oasis_S]

The Nintendog would obviously get in before the duck hunting dog since it is more relevant.

 

[OmegaXXII]

The duck hunting dog will not be a playable character.

Oasis_Sakurai has Spoken.

Okay, now you are just trolling or not being realistic, I'm actually trying to have a good discussion y'know.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Yeah... The dog has a very low chance. It appeared in one game. The dog is generally unliked as far as I know. And even in his one game, he wasn't all that important.

 

[Aurane]

Okay, now you are just trolling or not being realistic, I'm actually trying to have a good discussion y'know.

Really? LOL I thought this was the daily Troll Session

 

[Oasis_S]

Okay, now you are just trolling or not being realistic, I'm actually trying to have a good discussion y'know.

Nothing good can come out of discussing the duck hunting dog.

Yeah... The dog has a very low chance. It appeared in one game. The dog is generally unliked as far as I know. And even in his one game, he wasn't all that important.

Be reasonable. The fact that it appeared in one game does not effect it. It is also loved BECAUSE it is hated. Kind of weird, but whatever. It's iconic either way. The dog itself is just a poor choice for a playable character.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Really? LOL I thought this was the daily Troll Session

Meh, I give up, I guess I'll "play along" and troll at Mach Rider I guess.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Nothing good can come out of discussing the duck hunting dog.



Be reasonable. The fact that it appeared in one game does not effect it. It is also loved BECAUSE it is hated. Kind of weird, but whatever. It's iconic either way. The dog itself is just a poor choice for a playable character.

Wait wut? It's loved because it's hated? That doesn't make sense.

 

[---]

Nothing good can come out of discussing the duck hunting dog.

Be reasonable. The fact that it appeared in one game does not effect it. It is also loved BECAUSE it is hated. Kind of weird, but whatever. It's iconic either way. The dog itself is just a poor choice for a playable character.

I'm back from the local game store. I only wanted to get two games, but the Toise in my head said to go for three with Castlevaina 4.

On Topic: I would have to agree with all of this. And this video, which I think gives a good explaination on the DHD and how people see him.

 

[OmegaXXII]

I said I personally wouldn't see Dog and the other in this. Logically, maybe Dog as a assist. Ice Climbers fought (sort of) on there game. ROB was nvr explained into what he did, and G&W is outrageous in the gaming series, having done so many wierd things. The dog has only come out to laugh at you. If any WTF characters VS Nook and Dog, it's Tingle, and I hate him.

Let's get straight, Tingle IS NOT a obscure or "WTF" by any means whatsoever, he is just a lesser known character to be probable in the Zelda series like ChronoBound pointed out.

As for DHD, he could be given ANY moveset regardless what be did in his game, you can't say he can't do anything just because he didn't do anything in his canon game, get that straight, ROB and Falcon should give you an indication of this, Peach to a certain extent.

 

[Deleted member]

@Oasis_S: Source as to where Chrome game is Japan-only?

 

[Aurane]

Let's get straight, Tingle IS NOT a obscure or "WTF" by any means whatsoever, he is just a lesser known character to be probable in the Zelda series like ChronoBound pointed out.

As for DHD, he could be given ANY moveset regardless what be did in his game, you can't say he can't do anything just because he didn't do anything in his canon game, get that straight, ROB and Falcon should give you an indication of this, Peach to a certain extent.

I lol'd the bold.

Don't take it so personal, man. U alrdy know I hate Tingle. But in full honesty: Would you, not anyone, but you, expect to see DHD? If so, please do tell.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Nothing good can come out of discussing the duck hunting dog.



Be reasonable. The fact that it appeared in one game does not effect it. It is also loved BECAUSE it is hated. Kind of weird, but whatever. It's iconic either way. The dog itself is just a poor choice for a playable character.

Not really, you aren't arguing as to why he may not happen, you are only stating "he's a poor choice" which is clear bias, opinionated and subjective on you part, for all I know I could say Mach Rider or Takamaru is a "poor choice" yet I know they have a chance to be in, I don't ever put opinions towards determining a characters possible inclusion, get this straight people.

Arcadenik would agree.

 

[Oasis_S]

@SSBF: I really don't know, I just remember someone mentioning it on here. Rumor probably.

@Omega: Do you imagine Sakurai looks at characters with the mentality "anyone could have a moveset!" Seriously, now. We KNOW he discounts characters just because he doesn't think they're viable. For any fighting game developer, you want to add characters that offer something new and different. It's not like ONO or whoever thought "I THINK I'LL ADD A MEXICAN TO STREET FIGHTER IV, and he can punch and kick I guess." SO THEN, when he looks back at old characters to find something interesting, is he going to pick a simple dog that laughs OR a samurai that uses loads of weapons and has plenty of archetypes to attribute to?

Spoiler

Or maybe a Mad Max knock-off with the ability to explode and reform himself.

He turned Captain Falcon into a Power Ranger, R.O.B. had plenty of robot archetypes to work with (not to mention we didn't have a robot in Smash previously. something new!), and the Ice Climbers obviously provided something unique as they are two characters in one that fight together at the same time.

THESE KIND OF SUBJECTIVE THINGS ARE, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, AN IMPORTANT PART OF DECISION MAKING that only silly people would discount.

 

[OmegaXXII]

@Oasis_S: Source as to where Chrome game is Japan-only?

I don't think he'll be Japan only, I would believe it if Shadow Dragon or FE9 & FE10 would have stayed in Japan, I don't think there's any word of it being "Japan-only" just yet.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

@SSBF: I really don't know, I just remember someone mentioning it on here. Rumor probably.

@Omega: Do you imagine Sakurai looks at characters with the mentality "anyone could have a moveset!" Seriously, now. We KNOW he discounts characters just because he doesn't think they're viable. For any fighting game developer, you want to add characters that offer something new and different. It's not like ONO or whoever thought "I THINK I'LL ADD A MEXICAN TO STREET FIGHTER IV, and he can punch and kick I guess." SO THEN, when he looks back at old characters to find something interesting, is he going to pick a simple dog that laughs OR a samurai that uses loads of weapons and has plenty of archetypes to attribute to?

Spoiler

Or maybe a Mad Max knock-off with the ability to explode and reform himself.

He turned Captain Falcon into a Power Ranger, R.O.B. had plenty of robot archetypes to work with (not to mention we didn't have a robot in Smash previously. something new!), and the Ice Climbers obviously provided something unique as they are two characters in one that fight together at the same time.

THESE KIND OF SUBJECTIVE THINGS ARE, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, AN IMPORTANT PART OF DECISION MAKING that only silly people would discount.

This. This is what I think with some character ideas.

 

[shinhed-echi]

@SSBF: I really don't know, I just remember someone mentioning it on here. Rumor probably.

@Omega: Do you imagine Sakurai looks at characters with the mentality "anyone could have a moveset!" Seriously, now. We KNOW he discounts characters just because he doesn't think they're viable. For any fighting game developer, you want to add characters that offer something new and different. It's not like ONO or whoever thought "I THINK I'LL ADD A MEXICAN TO STREET FIGHTER IV, and he can punch and kick I guess." SO THEN, when he looks back at old characters to find something interesting, is he going to pick a simple dog that laughs OR a samurai that uses loads of weapons and has plenty of archetypes to attribute to?

Spoiler

Or maybe a Mad Max knock-off with the ability to explode and reform himself.

He turned Captain Falcon into a Power Ranger, R.O.B. had plenty of robot archetypes to work with (not to mention we didn't have a robot in Smash previously. something new!), and the Ice Climbers obviously provided something unique as they are two characters in one that fight together at the same time.

THESE KIND OF SUBJECTIVE THINGS ARE, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, AN IMPORTANT PART OF DECISION MAKING that only silly people would discount.

*Awards Oasis_S with the Internet Badge*

Now all people shall obey you. And here's a gift.

*Oasis_S received TM666*

TM666 contains PURE WIN. Use that to automatically win any debate from here on.

 

[Oasis_S]

Oasis_STRONGEST IN THE WHOLE WORLD HUUUARRRGH *FLEX*

The next debate will be how I am not the strongest debater.

...I wonder who the ELITE FOUR of Smash speculators would be.

...More importantly the Champion. Probably Toise since he's enough of blasTOISE to evoke images of Gary Oak.