New Smash Bros for WiiU

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Okay. Pokeball Pokemon to add or return in SSB4.
I want Scizor and Raikou to return from Melee, and I want Onix to return from SSB64.
To be added: Audino. Heals whoever released it.

 

[Opossum]

Aww...I missed my chance to mention Muddy Mole in an obscure retro character discussion...

@Oasis: Do you mean just from the people on Smash Boards, or the best Smash speculators in the world?

 

[Shorts]

Personally I think Bomberman and Plusle and Minun are way too high.

I agree with Plusle and Minun, I have no idea why they were voted so high. Bomberman makes sense to me though, because he's actually pretty popular, but no one really avidly discusses him. (Why would they?) I'm more concerned why Medusa is so low.

I like how Plusle & Minun are only considered because of the Forbidden Seven when they probably aren't even part of the Forbidden Seven which is probably only the Forbidden... 5.5

Bingo.

Why is Toad so highly requested? Maybe I'm missing something, but... I don't find it very realistic honestly.
I also want Bomberman so I can act like my avatar. A bomb-happy Brawler.

You're clearly new. haha. Casual players LOVE them some Toad. A lot of people on here enjoy him as well. I don't really like him too much.

Recolor list:
Original
Red
Blue
Green
Yellow
Purple
Light
Dark
Palette Swap #1
Palette Swap #2

That's ten. And a lot of fan service packed in there. We could have essentially over a hundred characters "represented" if everyone got two pallete swaps.

The duck hunting dog will not be a playable character.

Oasis_Sakurai has Spoken.

I'm betting on a no as well, but Oasis.... the designer of the last two WTF characters (ROB and G&W) worked on Duck Hunt.... that makes me nervous...

Oasis_STRONGEST IN THE WHOLE WORLD HUUUARRRGH *FLEX*

The next debate will be how I am not the strongest debater.

...I wonder who the ELITE FOUR of Smash speculators would be.

...More importantly the Champion. Probably Toise since he's enough of blasTOISE to evoke images of Gary Oak.

Champion Cynthia (Because she is the Champoin of all champoins): Toise

Elite four Lance: Pieman
Elite four Agatha: Fatman
Elite four Bruno: SmashChu
Elite four Lorelei: Kuma

Now I should do the gym leaders (:

 

[Metal Overlord]

Wait wut? It's loved because it's hated? That doesn't make sense.

A paradox perhaps?

@Omega: Do you imagine Sakurai looks at characters with the mentality "anyone could have a moveset!" Seriously, now. We KNOW he discounts characters just because he doesn't think they're viable. For any fighting game developer, you want to add characters that offer something new and different. It's not like ONO or whoever thought "I THINK I'LL ADD A MEXICAN TO STREET FIGHTER IV, and he can punch and kick I guess." SO THEN, when he looks back at old characters to find something interesting, is he going to pick a simple dog that laughs OR a samurai that uses loads of weapons and has plenty of archetypes to attribute to?

Spoiler

Or maybe a Mad Max knock-off with the ability to explode and reform himself.

He turned Captain Falcon into a Power Ranger, R.O.B. had plenty of robot archetypes to work with (not to mention we didn't have a robot in Smash previously. something new!), and the Ice Climbers obviously provided something unique as they are two characters in one that fight together at the same time.

THESE KIND OF SUBJECTIVE THINGS ARE, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, AN IMPORTANT PART OF DECISION MAKING that only silly people would discount.

Oasis wins.

FATARITY

/thread

 

[OmegaXXII]

@Omega: Do you imagine Sakurai looks at characters with the mentality "anyone could have a moveset!" Seriously, now. We KNOW he discounts characters just because he doesn't think they're viable. For any fighting game developer, you want to add characters that offer something new and different. It's not like ONO or whoever thought "I THINK I'LL ADD A MEXICAN TO STREET FIGHTER IV, and he can punch and kick I guess." SO THEN, when he looks back at old characters to find something interesting, is he going to pick a simple dog that laughs OR a samurai that uses loads of weapons and has plenty of archetypes to attribute to?

Spoiler

Or maybe a Mad Max knock-off with the ability to explode and reform himself.

He turned Captain Falcon into a Power Ranger, R.O.B. had plenty of robot archetypes to work with (not to mention we didn't have a robot in Smash previously. something new!), and the Ice Climbers obviously provided something unique as they are two characters in one that fight together at the same time.

THESE KIND OF SUBJECTIVE THINGS ARE, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, AN IMPORTANT PART OF DECISION MAKING that only silly people would discount.

Okay, I see where you are getting at, but wouldn't you say DHD would offer something unique? After all, he is a dog. I feel the way you said it is that he wouldn't provide any uniquesness or bring something new to the table, if anybody should be critized for that it should be Mach Rider, I mean, tell me, by looking at your logic what would he offer that Falcon hasn't already?

I understand that Sakurai may look for uniquesness but that isn't going to stop him if he looks at a certain character and shows interest, I'm not saying it will be DHD, but it's something to consider.

 

[Oasis_S]

Aww...I missed my chance to mention Muddy Mole in an obscure retro character discussion...

@Oasis: Do you mean just from the people on Smash Boards, or the best Smash speculators in the world?

EXCUSE ME OPOSSUM, BUT IT IS CALLED SMASH WORLD FORUMS. Silly goose.

@Shortshorts: That's probably just COINCIDENCE. I mean, he was kind of a big deal. ALSO, CAN WE BE DOUBLE BATTLE GYM LEADERS TOGETHER.

@Omega: I think you're the silliest goose of all~

 

[OmegaXXII]

You think everybody is a "silly goose"

 

[Deleted member]

@Shortiecanbrawl: For GYM leaders, add ChronoBound, Starphoenix, yourself, Arcadenik, and Oasis_S.

 

[shinhed-echi]

Can I be the Gym leader for Retro/Obscure Gym :D

 

[Shorts]

@Shortshorts: That's probably just COINCIDENCE. I mean, he was kind of a big deal. ALSO, CAN WE BE DOUBLE BATTLE GYM LEADERS TOGETHER.

FINE. But I'M TATE, you get to be LIZA.

 

[Steam]

are you guys really making a speculation pokemon league?

 

[OmegaXXII]

I'll be Mewtwo!!

 

[Aurane]

I'll be Lucario as a trainer. Yep. That's right. A Pokemon Pokemon Trainer

 

[OmegaXXII]

I want Giovanni to be mine. :D

troll time! XD

 

[Shorts]

I'll be Mewtwo!!

Steam can be Mewtwo. (For the lulz)

You can be The Starter Pokemon (Charmander) Poppy can be Squirtle, and Asage can be Bulbasaur.

I'm going to make this happen.

 

[Metal Overlord]

May I join in on this circlejerk?

 

[Opelucid]

What's going on here? O.o

I'm Zoroark

 

[Steam]

I'll be Lucario as a trainer. Yep. That's right. A Pokemon Pokemon Trainer

don't buy into this nonsense.

please

 

[OmegaXXII]

We are being gym leaders or pokemon! :D

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

I would be...like...the first trainer in the first gym...

 

[Aurane]

Troll Time, eh..?

So wrong Lol

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Steam can be Mewtwo. (For the lulz)

You can be The Starter Pokemon (Charmander) Poppy can be Squirtle, and Asage can be Bulbasaur.

I'm going to make this happen.

Yeah! I love Squirtle! Plus Squirtle can learn Ice-type attacks.
Plus, my Pokemon is the only Smasher.

 

[OmegaXXII]

I would be...like...the first trainer in the first gym...

Lol, how many gym leaders are there in the newer games in total? 16?

I remember when it was just 8, then when Johto was introduced it doubled to 16, then I lost track.

 

[Metal Overlord]

If I were part of this, how about I be this guy:

 

[OmegaXXII]

Whose N?

 

[OmegaXXII]

Troll Time, eh..?

So wrong Lol

To be honest, that environment would be epic, a stormy beach while raining with wind as a stage hazard would be EPIC!!!

 

[Steam]

Steam can be Mewtwo. (For the lulz)

...

yeah that's like the anit-perfect role for me

 

[Oasis_S]

Okay, I see where you are getting at, but wouldn't you say DHD would offer something unique? After all, he is a dog. I feel the way you said it is that he wouldn't provide any uniquesness or bring something new to the table, if anybody should be critized for that it should be Mach Rider, I mean, tell me, by looking at your logic what would he offer that Falcon hasn't already?

I understand that Sakurai may look for uniquesness but that isn't going to stop him if he looks at a certain character and shows interest, I'm not saying it will be DHD, but it's something to consider.

For every moveset I see for the dog, it really just gives the feeling that they're just trying to FORCE him to work because he doesn't readily offer anything interesting. I'm sure anything he could offer could be done better by other characters.

As for Mach Rider, he could have some similarities with Falcon, which would be appropriate as his game could be said to be the precursor to F-Zero, but the similarities aren't TOTALLY necessary. There are enough archetypes to draw from, and his own unique abilities (EXPLODING AND REFORMING YEEEAAAH) to make him HIS OWN THING.

@Shorts on Liz: I'm okay with this, actually.

 

[Shorts]

Starter Pokemon: Omega, Asage, Poppy

Gym Leader Brock: Metal
Gym Leader Misty: SSBF
Gym Leader Lt. Surge: JohnKnight
Gym Leader Erika: Arcadenik
Gym Leaders Koga & Janine: Oasis & Shorts
Gym Leader Sabrina: Chronobound (Lucky dog)
Gym Leader Blane: Starphoenix
Gym Leader Giovanni: The Third Koopa

Elite Four Lorelei: Kuma
Elite Four Bruno: SmashChu
Elite Four Agatha: Fatman
Elite Four Lance: Bruno

Champoin of all Champoins Cynthia: Toise

Pokemon/People of Significance:
Loveable Jigglypuff: Opossum
Cynthia's Lucario: Steam
The confused Slowpoke: Opelucid
Team Rocket Grunt: Sonic Poke



If I missed anyone, tell me so I can add them in as someone!

 

[Steam]

I am not mewtwo.

just no.

 

[Aurane]

Starter Pokemon: Omega, Asage, Poppy

Gym Leader Brock: Metal
Gym Leader Misty: SSBF
Gym Leader Lt. Surge: JohnKnight
Gym Leader Erika: Arcadenik
Gym Leaders Koga & Janine: Oasis & Shorts
Gym Leader Sabrina: Chronobound (Lucky dog)
Gym Leader Blane: Starphoenix
Gym Leader Giovanni: The Third Koopa

Elite Four Lorelei: Kuma
Elite Four Bruno: SmashChu
Elite Four Agatha: Fatman
Elite Four Lance: Bruno

Champoin of all Champoins Cynthia: Toise

Pokemon of Significance:
Loveable Jigglypuff: Opossum
The powerful Mewtwo: Steam
The confused Slowpoke: Opelucid



If I missed anyone, tell me so I can add them in as someone!

The Clever Lucario: ASage T_T
F*** no I ain't no starter.

 

[Metal Overlord]

There are enough archetypes to draw from

I think that Mach Rider should have more of a serious/gritty persona, at least opposed to Falcon and Snake...



@Pokelist- Damn, I wish I were Misty

Ah, well, Brock is cool, too, though...

 

[Shorts]

The Clever Lucario: ASage T_T
F*** no I ain't no starter.

Yes. You are.

And Steam, would you like to be the Sleeping Snorlax that causes extreme rage? You can switch.

 

[Aurane]

Yes. You are..

Elaborate quickly

 

[Steam]

Yes. You are.

And Steam, would you like to be the Sleeping Snorlax that causes extreme rage? You can switch.

Mewtwo's pet lucario obv

 

[OmegaXXII]

...

yeah that's like the anit-perfect role for me

Lol, more like Lucario?

 

[Opelucid]

Yay Confused Slowpoke!

We should move this to the Backroom

 

[Shorts]

Elaborate quickly

You're new, and haven't made a name for yourself. When I feel you out, you can be something else!

@Steam. FIIIINE. You can be Cynthia's Lucario she brought over to Kanto.



*Goes to move to the backroom*

 

[Aurane]

This is SSB4, not Pokemon -_-
@Shortie
Really? OK, when I get Wi-Fi, We'll battle. Simple as that

 

[Opossum]

I feel that both Mach Rider and Duck Hunt Dog can definitely fit certain archetypes, and shouldn't be dismissed due to the apparent absence of them.







HOWEVER, Muddy Mole wouldn't need an archetype, as he is shown in combat. Just saying. People need to give the mole some credit...