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Ah, right.
I never understood why characters like Marth were made to be so out of character. I understand if there's not much to go, but that's the case here.
Adding in randomness is nothing more than Fake Balance. What I thought would work for characters like Luigi and Game and Watch was for there to be a meter system, and these kind of attacks would require some of the meter to do them. This way, you don't need luck on your side so much.
That's a very big generalization. Look at most fighting game characters. Most, if not all of them, tend to be in very good shape and may have different bone sizes, but their very builds do not indicate their moves. You wouldn't think, for example, that Bob from Tekken is actually a very fast character, and then you have Makoto from Street Fighter who is actually a slow walker with very damaging combos.
Welcome to Smash Bros. Which isn't a traditional fighter. That's why.
Those games aren't Smash Bros. and have no bearing on my point. It happens to be the case for SSB and only SSB. The only reason we had the clones in Melee was that they were easy to program due to use similar body structures. This was very specifically the case for Ganondorf.
All take my furries over your lolis anyday.
Your arguments never hold up under the microscope. "Lucario is more popular than Mewtwo" will always be false, and Google battle or whatever is a poor choice to prove that. There is a reason why no one sides with you whenever you try to debate that subject.
So what's your point? Randomness doesn't add anything to this kind of game. If you're trying to have a serious match, wouldn't you prefer that the outcome was made due to factors that you and your opponent could control?
Again, what's your point? That was the case for the most part for clones, but that's only because those characters were added as clones deliberately. In other circumstances, I doubt that body structure would have such an emphasis on a character's moves. It's just crazy to think that for any game.
Have you ever played Smash Bros in 8-Bit? They actually have Mario, Fox and Kirby as well, it's definetly a good a bit mugen game.Interesting one of my friends suggested 8-Bit Link for a new Zelda rep it would be interesting but it's not going to happen.
Actually I was highlighting things that weren't movesets because those are obvious to everyone. On that note, I don't think there's any single property that hasn't been changed on at least one character:
It adds fun. Or do you think that only pure technical moves with no chance of error is the only way to have fun? Both are fun in their own way. Don't act like randomness is a terrible concept by default. That's silly. It's only in competitive tournaments that it's a problem. But in the regular game, it's fine.
But not for Smash Bros. That's how it's been applied so far. Also, may I note the tons of Shoto Clones out there? Or clones in general? Since you refuse to not apply it to other fighters(which don't matter to Smash). Smash Bros. will always have clones, and the only clones are of the same body structure. Both are dependent on eachother.
Thank you. And yet again I got it from the backroom.Wow, nice link there.
Not at all, in fact, I hate technical skill when it exists solely as a deliberate technical barrier (see L-Canceling). I enjoy the footsies and mix-up aspect of fighting games more because that's where my randomness comes in.
I never said that other games have clones. And Shoto Clones are fine as that's actually an archetype considering just about every 2D fighter has at least one.
L-Cancelling was an excellent skill. Removing it from Brawl just made the game more casual. More than it needed to be. I hated that it was taken out. Yeah, you see, I like the idea of something that might happen, albeit, it shouldn't be too much. There is nothing really wrong with randomness in general. Things happen. Also, saying L-Cancelling was bad is the problem. Why was it bad? Because it required good timing? There's nothing wrong with SOME technical aspects in a non-technical fighter. Just like there's nothing wrong with some randomness. Is Mr. Game & Watch Judgment bad because it might hurt you? The fact that it may hurt you or may help you allows it to have a nice variable of moves.
That doesn't make them fine just because they're some archtype. What, it's accepted because it's constantly done? That doesn't make it actually acceptable any more than regular clones are. They're both clones in general. Just some are less similar.
lol. I guess I did, although I'm not sure if it's for better or worst.
Well according to Star and SSBFan it seems they would actually need someone like you to provide such referances since it seems they also tend to use personal bias rather than logic.lol. I guess I did, although I'm not sure if it's for better or worst.
Anyway if that broke up discussion here, I wonder what would happen if I posted some of the links I have on Gamefaqs...
Yeah, I posted the roster here. It's kind of a crazy suggestion. I don't even think it would happen.
He's in the same boat as Samus, Link and Pit. They are part of the Famicom Disc game which were much larger adventure games compared to Mario and Ice Climbers and the likes. He's a classic character over there.
Really isn't the conventional wisdom since no one thought about the idea until I mentioned it. There has been mentions of other people for a "retro," character and Sakurai has done it twice, so I took up the challenge and tried to guess it. Of course, I think it's unlikely as ROB and Game and Watch made some sense and were important enough in their own right.
Well I'm working on it right now.Well according to Star and SSBFan it seems they would actually need someone like you to provide such referances since it seems they also tend to use personal bias rather than logic.
It's not that bad, honestly. The Brawl boards have a lot of people who are problemsome.(I gotta love the Elitist accusations) But some of the other boards for lesser known games aren't nearly as bad. Basically, the more popular games often have fanboys/haters than the unpopular games. It's odd, really.Wow, that saying alot, I doubt I could handle GameFaqs myself, it's too much, also good luck.
Okay, so he's just a cool character in Japan. He had a game they like. I guess that's similar to how Little Mac is here, so I get it now. I don't know how many of his supporters here have played his game, not that it matters much.
Thank you and it's done.Wow, that saying alot, I doubt I could handle GameFaqs myself, it's too much, also good luck.
I don't like lolis either. I did make a moveset for Lip though.
This is a sad fact.
Yeah, and Smash 4 is one of those games where alot of heated discussion happens as well, at least alot of stuff that doesn't even make sense, but okay lol..
My point was, just because a character's fanbase is perverted, doesn't mean you should stereotype everyone of them.
The point was that the bigger games happen to get more bad attention, that's all.Yeah, and Smash 4 is one of those games where alot of heated discussion happens as well, at least alot of stuff that doesn't even make sense, but okay lol..
