New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Oasis_S]

IT. IS.

Making Victini would take longer than making a model swap Pichu.

And making a Pichu model swap would take longer than, say, Wario in overalls.

It wouldn't really WORK by itself unless they FORCED it to, in which case it would just turn out WEIRD.

 

[OmegaXXII]

So...about Pichu, any thoughts as to have him swap or DLC/unlockable?

Of course I'm gonna say unlockable.


Edit: gosh, could you collapse please!!??

 

[ToiseOfChoice]

I should just not explain things out of spite that you kids never talk about F-Zero with this much passion.

 

[Aurane]

So...about Pichu, any thoughts as to have him swap or DLC/unlockable?

Of course I'm gonna say unlockable.

How about Not available? Just throwing that out there.
F-Zero? FALCON PAAWWWNNCCHH!!! (in otherwords it's already crystal.)

 

[SwayneGang]

So...about Pichu, any thoughts as to have him swap or DLC/unlockable?

Of course I'm gonna say unlockable.

I vote unlockable, DLC, or my exclusive poke ball idea.

 

[Pachinkosam]

pichu is not my favorite character

 

[Shorts]

ALL I wanted to do was make PICHU FANS HAPPY D,:

Seriously, I'm not crazy. It wouldn't be that hard...

And making a Pichu model swap would take longer than, say, Wario in overalls.

Pichu has more fans than Wario's overalls. (Wario's OVERALLS 4SMASH)

It wouldn't really WORK by itself unless they FORCED it to, in which case it would just turn out WEIRD.

About as weird as Snake.

 

[Aurane]

pichu is not my favorite character

That's awesome.

 

[OmegaXXII]

I vote unlockable, DLC, or my exclusive poke ball idea.

Yeah, about that Pokeball idea, hmm.. what about having him as part of a trainer? Alternatively it could work since 2 other Pokemon could be in as well as opposed to just taking a slot, but again I feel Pichu would make a great DLC character to celebrate Smash's history.

 

[Starphoenix]

I should just not explain things out of spite that you kids never talk about F-Zero with this much passion.

Most people believe that because F-Zero has not had another entry since the Gamecube (or the GBA) that it doesn't deserve a character. Therefore there is no real discussion.

 

[Claire Diviner]

The problem with Pichu is that he's really a complete clone of Pikachu... just lighter, and he hurts himself. He's not a semi-clone, or a "Luigification", he's a smaller Pikachu with some major flaws. So unless Nintendo does a major overhaul of Pichu's moveset to either differentiate him from Pikachu completely, or at least "Luigificate" him, I don't see Pichu making a return in playable form. I could be wrong though.

 

[SwayneGang]

ALL I wanted to do was make PICHU FANS HAPPY D,:

Relax, dude. Again, he has outs. And if he makes it in via one of those means, then Pichu fans will be happy.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Not to mention Pichu self inflicted damage which was bad to begin with.

 

[JavaCroc]

IT. IS.

Making Victini would take longer than making a model swap Pichu. With a model swap EVERYTHING IS DONE, all you have to do is fit the hitboxes as best you can, and make the Pichu model.

With Victini, you need to make a moveset, balance him, ect.

No, it's not fact until someone literally takes SSB4's Pikachu model, swaps it suddenly with a Pichu model, and tries to animate it with as little effort as possible in changing the model itself.

Plus, using a Victini vs. Pichu example is not a good example. We're not debating if it's quicker model-swapping than making a unique character - we were arguing whether a model swap is even feasible.

... Toise should elaborate it.

*magic wand*

go to bed

These quotes. I'm saving them.



I have history homework. Bye everyone.

 

[Aurane]

ENOUGH!
My ship sails in the morning. But I wonder who's for Pichu? Oh, ho ho ho!

 

[Shorts]

I don't even like Pichu that much.

Keep this up and I'll hate him as much as Steam made me hate Lucario.

 

[OmegaXXII]

ENOUGH!
My ship sails in the morning. But I wonder who's for Pichu? Oh, ho ho ho!

Not me!

But like I said, in trainer form Pichu wouldn't be a bad choice I guess.

 

[Aurane]

I don't even like Pichu that much.

Keep this up and I'll hate him as much as Steam made me hate Lucario.

OK, Idk who Steam is, but obviously he injured Lucario. What did he do to Lucario that makes u oppose him so?

 

[Claire Diviner]

Most people believe that because F-Zero has not had another entry since the Gamecube (or the GBA) that it doesn't deserve a character. Therefore there is no real discussion.

And what those people fail to realize is that F-Zero is indeed a Nintendo franchise, with plenty of characters to choose from for fighters in a Smash Bros. game. I mean, look at Pit: he hasn't been in any games since his Gameboy appearance in Kid Icarus: Of Myths and Monsters, yet he made it into Brawl, and as such, managed to find himself in his own game once again with Uprising. So who knows? If they add another F-Zero character as a fighter, it may spark enough interest for another F-Zero game. Imagine that; an F-Zero game with fantastic HD graphics. I'm so sold on that idea. XD

 

[Aurane]

And what those people fail to realize is that F-Zero is indeed a Nintendo franchise, with plenty of characters to choose from for fighters in a Smash Bros. game. I mean, look at Pit: he hasn't been in any games since his Gameboy appearance in Kid Icarus: Of Myths and Monsters, yet he made it into Brawl, and as such, managed to find himself in his own game once again with Uprising. So who knows? If they add another F-Zero character as a fighter, it may spark enough interest for another F-Zero game. Imagine that; an F-Zero game with fantastic HD graphics. I'm so sold on that idea. XD

Well, we got 3 to 4 years for that. Keep hoping

 

[Deleted member]

Most people believe that because F-Zero has not had another entry since the Gamecube (or the GBA) that it doesn't deserve a character. Therefore there is no real discussion.

Not to mention that a F-zero rep is not in very high demand. I am having doubts about the series getting a second rep, but ironically enough, this is also the series last real shot of getting one since I don't see it getting a new installment for a while.

However, if a new game is announced by E3 2012, then a F-zero rep is very probable.

 

[OmegaXXII]

I don't even like Pichu that much.

Keep this up and I'll hate him as much as Steam made me hate Lucario.

Haha, Steam loves Lucario to death, I really don't care if you hate Pichu, it's not like....anybody supports him in the first place, right?

 

[Starphoenix]

Not to mention that a F-zero rep is not in very high demand. I am having doubts about the series getting a second rep, but ironically enough, this is also the series last real shot of getting one since I don't see it getting a new installment for a long while.

Samurai Goroh has had, and still has a high amount of requests.

 

[SwayneGang]

Yeah, about that Pokeball idea, hmm.. what about having him as part of a trainer? Alternatively it could work since 2 other Pokemon could be in as well as opposed to just taking a slot, but again I feel Pichu would make a great DLC character to celebrate Smash's history.

I just threw out the poke ball idea as another option for him.

But I agree with that last part.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Well, we just need a new F-Zero for Wii-U then.

 

[Aurane]

Samurai Goroh has had, and still has a high amount of requests.

Well, he was an assistant trophy, maybe Mr. Sakurai will bring him up a level?

 

[Claire Diviner]

Well, he was an assistant trophy, maybe Mr. Sakurai will bring him up a level?

The same logic goes for why Ridley is overdue for a playable appearance in Smash Bros..

 

[Oasis_S]

ALL I wanted to do was make PICHU FANS HAPPY D,:

You will never know happiness again.

Pichu has more fans than Wario's overalls. (Wario's OVERALLS 4SMASH)

POINT WAS, Pichu would not be like any other alternate costume. Whereas most would just be a character wearing a different hat or whatever, Pichu actually has an entirely different shape. It wouldn't even be a "model swap" in a strict sense, due to the need for altering animations. The Pichu model itself would have to look rather OFF just to work. IT REALLY WOULDN'T BE AS SIMPLE AS YOU WANT TO BELIEVE IT WOULD BE.

About as weird as Snake.

Oh hush.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Well, he was an assistant trophy, maybe Mr. Sakurai will bring him up a level?

Mr.Sakurai?

Anyway, I feel Samurai agoroh has a decent chance now, of course if we get a new game his chances will skyrocket.

 

[Deleted member]

Samurai Goroh has had, and still has a high amount of requests.

I don't really notice a high amount of requests. It seems as hype for a F-zero rep has died down a bit since Brawl and I see it going down even further. A F-zero rep isn't discussed much from the forums I go to (here, GameFAQs, Nsider2, All is Brawl).

 

[Aurane]

The same logic goes for why Ridley is overdue for a playable appearance in Smash Bros..

Oh gawd, not another supporter D: I found a video on a texture hack on Charizard with Ridley. Ever since, I question size... in a good way.
@king RESPECT DA (MR) SAKURAI!

 

[OmegaXXII]

Ridley should be playable, he doesn't compare to Goroh as far as importance goes.

 

[Shorts]

You will never know happiness again.
IT REALLY WOULDN'T BE AS SIMPLE AS YOU WANT TO BELIEVE IT WOULD BE.

But it isn't as hard as adding Pichu as his own character. You get the point, stop nitpicking!

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A TEAM.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Nope, everybody calls him Sakurai, but I respect your decision.

 

[Claire Diviner]

Oh gawd, not another supporter D: I found a video on a texture hack on Charizard with Ridley. Ever since, I question size... in a good way.

Well, I'm not a supporter per se, but can see the logic behind why Ridley should be a playable character. I went over this a few pages back:

In Smash 64, he made a cameo in Planet Zebes's background, in Melee, he was a trophy and appeared in the opening FMV, and in Brawl, they went one step ahead and made him a boss. I'd say making him playable seems like the next logical step for the poor dragon... pterasaur... thing.

 

[Aurane]

Nope, everybody calls him Sakurai, but I respect your decision.

D: I'm not an everybody, I'm a somebody!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocE3Yukx7uI
See what i mean?

 

[OmegaXXII]

But it isn't as hard as adding Pichu as his own character. You get the point, stop nitpicking!

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A TEAM.

Wow, I thought I would never see you two disagreeing, I do however see what Oasis is pointing out, I would support swaps if it didn't involve so much complications as I don't see Sakurai and team doing so.

 

[Claire Diviner]

Nope, everybody calls him Sakurai, but I respect your decision.

I'll just call him "Masahiro" then.

 

[SwayneGang]

Samurai Goroh. Black Shadow.

Either one of those two playable for the next Smash is fine with me.

If Black Shadow's playable, and Goroh remains an AT, I will be in heaven.

 

[Starphoenix]

I don't really notice a high amount of requests. It seems as hype for a F-zero rep has died down a bit since Brawl and I see it going down even further. A F-zero rep isn't discussed much from the forums I go to (here, GameFAQs, Nsider2, All is Brawl).

Actually I see him quite a bit. Still, Samurai Goroh has not really received the same deflation that Krystal or Geno has had. On top of this Sakurai will likely look towards his past official polls and not necessarily forums.