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I wouldn't take the whole Assist Trophy thing too seriously as Mewtwo and Roy did not show up at all as a summon, and yet they were farther along than Waluigi ever was. Only Saki, and to a lesser extent Gray Fox, had a legitimate hint. Waluigi was just more of a tease.
Agreed, the AT part has nothing to do with a character actually getting in, it helps but isn't by a big demeanor.
 

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@Samurai Goroh, one of the ugliest characters I have ever seen. Seriously, OoT Ganon > Samurai Goroh in the looks department, and that's saying something.

...that is, if F-Zero gets another game soon... >:
Or without? *looks a Pukas.

The only reason Saki is the exception is because he conceded that he was a popular request. Outside of that I am not going to really draw anything else from the site.
Now, this one is popular. This is Deoxys, a DNA Pokémon. It appears on command from a Poké Ball!
What was that?
 

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Looking through the DOJO again. I don't think I can really take anything from there as a legitimate hint. I forgot about Sakurai's tendency to make over exaggerated, grandiose statements. The only reason Saki is the exception is because he conceded that he was a popular request. Outside of that I am not going to really draw anything else from the site.
 

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Samurai Goroh and Little Mac however will since they are popular in general, plus they are subsequent to series in which they reside.
 

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I knew my addtion of Waluigi would create a new found debate. :laugh:

Anyway I see the Mario newcomers chances (except for Toad) are pretty even, but whether or not it's teasing like some claim, it's something Waluigi has over the other Mario newcomers and it shouldn't be ignored.

Also as for the Samurai Goroh/Deoxys quote, I found the way it was worded to not stand out like Wa's or Saki's. So forgive me if I take theirs to be a hint.

Now then are there any other problems with my roster?
 

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So, Saki seems likely right? I wonder if Sakurai would actually consider him and what would his appearance be based on?
 

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I just hope F-Zero gets another character. I'm with Sabyr; I'm tired of Falcon carrying the burden.

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Nope. All's good.
 

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I just hope F-Zero gets another character. I'm with Sabyr; I'm tired of Falcon carrying the burden.
Agreed, but who do people HONESTLY want the most? no realistic chances involved.

Samurai Goroh
Dr. Clark
Black Shadow

Even though Samurai Goroh is way more likely, i'd say Black Shadow should take the spot since he's an antagonist, Goroh is more of a rival which is meh....besides Takamaru can take his place as the katana user.

(ALL IN MY OPINION)
 

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Also as for the Samurai Goroh/Deoxys quote, I found the way it was worded to not stand out like Wa's or Saki's. So forgive me if I take theirs to be a hint.
That's my point. Have you ever just made something sound good? Sakurai was doing that with Deoxys, Samurai Goroh, Waluigi AND Saki. He just was trying to make their inclusion look like it was wanted. (Which it was) You guys are just cherry picking.

Nothing like the Pit trophy.
 

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I would personally like to see Pico as the second playable F-Zero character. However, he has practically no chance at ever becoming playable in the Smash Bros. series.
 

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Don't forget everyone Sakurai also hyped Gray Fox and Mr. Resetti as well.

He approaches stealthily with lithe jumps, coming right in then slicing repeatedly. Awww! It makes you want to use him as a playable character.
It’s Mr. Resetti from Animal Crossing. At long last he makes his appearance!
Not too sure that means anything. Then, inversely, we have the infamous "up until now" quote.
 

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Agreed, but who do people HONESTLY want the most? no realistic chances involved.

Samurai Goroh
Dr. Clark
Black Shadow

Even though Samurai Goroh is way more likely, I'd say Black Shadow should take the spot since he's an antagonist, Goroh is more of a rival which is meh....besides Takamaru can take his place as the katana user.

(ALL IN MY OPINION)
You meant Dr. Stewart, right? But my pick is Black Shadow. Goroh could stay as an AT if he wants.

Don't forget everyone Sakurai also hyped Mr. Resetti.
NO!!! NOT HIM!!!
 

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Again, you're cherry picking the quotes. He said good stuff about like eight characters! Probably more! He's just making their inclusion sound like a really good decision.
 
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---, why is Victini a starter? I personally think that if it gets in, it will have to be unlocked.
 

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That's my point. Have you ever just made something sound good? Sakurai was doing that with Deoxys, Samurai Goroh, Waluigi AND Saki. He just was trying to make their inclusion look like it was wanted. (Which it was)

Nothing like the Pit trophy.
We're all debating their chances aren't we? And so far all these characters have appeared in our debates as characters with somewhat of a good chance.

I don't like Waluigi, but he's the only Mario rep to even get some special attention from Sakurai and that's what I think puts him over other possible Mario reps despite their popularity over here in the U.S.

As for Samurai Goroh, after all this, I'm thinking of now siding with Toise on this one and what he has also said about another Mario rep. So don't think I'm setting my roster in stone just yet.

I'm just sad that that's all people are looking at on my roster. :(
 

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OMG Mr. Rosetti is making it into SM4SH!!!

...Actually I'd like Tom Nook in SM4SH
 

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---, why is Victini a starter? I personally think that if it gets in, it will have to be unlocked.
Same reason that Ike and Lucas make more sense as starters, I'd imagine.


THING GOT A LITTLE MACH RIDERY WHILE I WAS NAPPING. How unfortunate. >:

Didn't expect STAR to do THAT. What a weirdo that is no longer a monster.
 

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We're all debating their chances aren't we? And so far all these characters have appeared in our debates as characters with somewhat of a good chance.

I don't like Waluigi, but he's the only Mario rep to even get some special attention from Sakurai and that's what I think puts him over other possible Mario reps despite their popularity over here in the U.S.
I think your blinded by that silly Sakurai quote. He isn't as popular as either Bowser Jr, or Toad. (Definitely not Toad) and Sakurai gave him special attention, so what? He gave the gooey bomb and PIPLUP "special attention" as well.

He picked Waluigi as an AT, that doesn't mean he's the best candidate for the Mario series. He's one of the worst, actually.
 

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---, why is Victini a starter? I personally think that if it gets in, it will have to be unlocked.
I thought it would be weird to have 4 unlockable Pokemon, and of them Victini seemed to be the one I guess that made a little more sense to make a starter.

Though to tell the truth I didn't really spend much time on who would be unlockable, I was to busy preparing for the flamming which I was right about happening.
 

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Again, you're cherry picking the quotes. He said good stuff about like eight characters! Probably more! He's just making their inclusion sound like a really good decision.
Haha, I don't think you read the context of what I was saying. I was trying to point out that most of the quotes don't matter because he has made boisterous claims about other characters as well. The reason I pointed out Gray Fox and Mr. Resetti is for the sheer absurdity that either one would actually be playable. Context people.
 

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Haha, I don't think you read the context of what I was saying. I was trying to point out that most of the quotes don't matter because he has made boisterous claims about other characters as well. The reason I pointed out Gray Fox and Mr. Resetti is for the sheer absurdity that either one would actually be playable. Context people.
The internet doesn't carry inflections.

Don't forget everyone Sakurai also hyped Gray Fox and Mr. Resetti as well
That sounded legitimate to me, until i reread it after you said something.
 

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We're all debating their chances aren't we? And so far all these characters have appeared in our debates as characters with somewhat of a good chance.

I don't like Waluigi, but he's the only Mario rep to even get some special attention from Sakurai and that's what I think puts him over other possible Mario reps despite their popularity over here in the U.S.

As for Samurai Goroh, after all this, I'm thinking of now siding with Toise on this one and what he has also said about another Mario rep. So don't think I'm setting my roster in stone just yet.

I'm just sad that that's all people are looking at on my roster. :(
I actually like Waluigi. I just feel that since he's appeared in the form of an Assist Trophy, he should remain as such. Not that I don't think he could have a unique moveset; which he could.

In regards to your roster, as I said, it's a great roster. And don't feel bad; nobody thinks my roster will happen, even though it's a wishlist.
 
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I thought it would be weird to have 4 unlockable Pokemon, and of them Victini seemed to be the one I guess that made a little more sense to make a starter.

Though to tell the truth I didn't really spend much time on who would be unlockable, I was to busy preparing for the flamming which I was right about happening.
Fair enough, I see your reasoning.

Other then Waluigi, I have no serious objection to the roster.
 

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I think your blinded by that silly Sakurai quote. He isn't as popular as either Bowser Jr, or Toad. (Definitely not Toad) and Sakurai gave him special attention, so what? He gave the gooey bomb and PIPLUP "special attention" as well.

He picked Waluigi as an AT, that doesn't mean he's the best candidate for the Mario series. He's one of the worst, actually.
That's just it, why is he the worst?

No one has really explained that at all in a debate, we all just say he's a Spin-Off character so he has no chance and leave it at that.

Also how many times to I have to say it, I don't support Waluigi. :glare:
 

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That sounded legitimate to me, until i reread it after you said something.
Looking through the DOJO again. I don't think I can really take anything from there as a legitimate hint. I forgot about Sakurai's tendency to make over exaggerated, grandiose statements. The only reason Saki is the exception is because he conceded that he was a popular request. Outside of that I am not going to really draw anything else from the site.
Don't forget everyone Sakurai also hyped Gray Fox and Mr. Resetti as well.

He approaches stealthily with lithe jumps, coming right in then slicing repeatedly. Awww! It makes you want to use him as a playable character.
It’s Mr. Resetti from Animal Crossing. At long last he makes his appearance!
Not too sure that means anything. Then, inversely, we have the infamous "up until now" quote.
The key was my comment beforehand.
 

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I think your blinded by that silly Sakurai quote. He isn't as popular as either Bowser Jr, or Toad. (Definitely not Toad) and Sakurai gave him special attention, so what? He gave the gooey bomb and PIPLUP "special attention" as well.

He picked Waluigi as an AT, that doesn't mean he's the best candidate for the Mario series. He's one of the worst, actually.
I agree with this, people need to stop thinking Waluigi would be better suited than Bowser jr. and Toad, it's very unlikely to happen, that description on the DOJO is squat.
 

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That's just it, why is he the worst?

No one has really explained that at all in a debate, we all just say he's a Spin-Off character so he has no chance and leave it at that.

Also how many times to I have to say it, I don't support Waluigi. :glare:
Toad has more history and Bowser Jr. has a more important roles within the main series. ON top of that, I'm willing to wager Toise cats that they're more requested than Waluigi as well.

If he isn't important, doesn't have the history and isn't the most popular, that makes him a lesser choice.

Toad, Bowser Jr, and even Paper Mario have him beat.

The only reason Saki is the exception is because he conceded that he was a popular request. Outside of that I am not going to really draw anything else from the site.
Cherry. Picking.
 

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Bowser Jr. and Toad have more history and more important roles within the series. ON top of that, I'm willing to wager Toise cats that they're more requested than Waluigi as well.

If he isn't important, doesn't have the history and isn't the most popular, that makes him a lesser choice.

Toad, Bowser Jr, and even Paper Mario have him beat.



Cherry. Picking.
Once again, pointing out the obvious, also Waluigi seems to be hated amongalot of people, his popularity pales in comparison to Toad.
 

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Here's a fact to consider: At what point in time were the characters introduced to us all? Technically, Waluigi came BEFORE Bowser Jr.
 
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