New counter pick for marth

[Samus-T]

I need a new counter pick against marth. to me, marth is the hardest character in the game (yes even harder than metaknight) and i dont know why. everyone tells me that i out range marth, over prioritize, blah blah blah but i just cant beat good marths. so im torn between 2 new counterpicks. game and watch or metaknight? who should i pick up as a counter pick

 

[KosukeKGA]

Meta Knight.

 

[Pierce7d]

I've watched vids of you. You're pretty good. And while I still think you have the matchup advantage on paper, I do manage to usually win against even really good D3s. I would recommend Metaknight as a Marth counter. I don't really have any difficulty against Mr. G&W.

 

[Hype]

meta knight is marths hardest matchup.

 

[Vayseth]

Meta or Snake.

 

[Steel]

Marth vs D3 is dead even, just clearing that up.

If you need a marth CP it would be MK. Marth has the advantage over GW and probably goes even with Snake.

 

[hippiedude92]

Agreed with Steel. Basically depends on player's skill. Both characters have equiped CGs on them. Mk is your hope.

 

[CO18]

Aww boo cps .

Mk ***** marth but.. Im sure if u master cging marth ud be able to beat him alot more easily.

Bair,ftilt, and breversals **** marth.

But if you still decide to pick up a cp go with mk definitley.

 

[Steel]

I didn't know a 6:4 match up was ****?

 

[Taiki]

My friend pierce7d mains marth. Being of equal skill i fail to see the advantage to D3. As to learning a CP, ROB is a pretty good matchup v marth from what i'm told.

 

[Dynomite]

when i faught an awesome D3 i got ***** with my marth, game and watch's moves take priority over marth but meda is fast and marth cant keep up that well, i think its whoever u feel better using.

 

[Buuman]

You need to think of it this way. Marth is the ultimate in defense characters. He can simply sheild and side B out of it. Up b out of sheild comes out in a few frames and experienced marths will edge guard dededes predicables recovery up the ***. This isn't an easy matchup but u need to rely on CGs here and your edge guarding needs to be perfect

 

[laird]

dont CP Game and Watch. I main D3 and GW, and all of GW's moves are outranged by marth, except for Bair, which is still outranged by dancing swords and fsmash. GW v Marth comes down to lots and lots and lots of turtle dancing.

I've heard meta is pretty stacked against marth, though.

 

[Hype]

The turtle definatly outranges marth side B and probebly marths Fsmash. The only way I can stop the turtle with marth is to up B out of shield. still though G&W is not a good couter pick for marth.

if you are gonna go with a CP Meta knight is the way to go.

I'd suggest looking at the matchup from marth's point of view before getting a secondary.
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=186738

 

[Emblem Lord]

Don't perpetuate false info Hype.

Marth's f-tilt and f-smash outrange G&W's turtle.

CP MK against Marth although Dedede does fine vs Marth as well. 50/50 match-up from what I can tell.

There shouldn't be any reason why a Dedede player can't beat a Marth player.

 

[Sensei Seibrik]

The way i see it....

if the matchup isn't 100/0 in the other guys favor, you don't need a counterpick.


Thats wat im goin for anyway, d3 all the way, learn the hard matchups and enure. you'll become a better overall player in the long run because of it.

 

[TKD]

Try to better your spacing. Ftilt from afar and dtilt from up close. Grab when dtilt may be shielded or when it's a sure thing. If you shielded marth's shorthopped fair, and he's still able to airjump or do another fair, I suggest you roll/spotdodge. Also counts for rising nairs. You can only shieldgrab falling aerials, not rising ones. And good spacing on Marth's part avoids that. So trying to shieldgrab is bad if it's not safe.

ftilt, dtilt, grabs. Aerial marth may get hit by fair/bair. Jumping into dair from the edge likes to work against most characters. Edgehog, learn to chaingrab effectively, and that's that.

I suggest you don't look for a counterpick because of Marth. It's better to think about bigger problems, like Diddy Kong. And don't get into counterpicking MK yet. People still haven't figured out who's good against him anyway, so blindly choosing a counterpick for him isn't a great idea.