[Nesu] It's so deserted here I could find Criminal Caterpillars. (Post here if you're cool)

[Bartolon]

DAS isn't safe on shield.

Learn to space

 

[Levitas]

me w/ my friends just now:

levitas: any clue what DAS is?
ankoku: got some context?
levitas: ness nairing
scotu: dumb and stupid
ankoku: yeah, why is ness *nairing*?

 

[Eagleye893]

Ummmm...... Ok.

It seems to me that almost anything to be talked about here has been already...

After playing brawl again on wifi vs some people, it seems my Kirby does significantly better now than my ness... I need something to push me over the edge...

 

[Delta-cod]

It's probably the fact that Kirby is a better character. =/

 

[Chuee]

Learn to space

Spacing doesn't really help. Nair doesn't have nearly enough range nor shield knockback to prevent me from punishing you're ending lag. I showed a friend of mine that uses Ness how easy it is to punish. Most attacks you use for 2nd aerial in DAS are Nair or Uair. Both have ending lag when not autocanceled. When you DAS the problem is that you aren't AC them which makes them easier to punish. Neither of those have enough horizontal range to make them safe. Fair is a little less punishable since it has slightly less ending lag and shield pokes, but it's still punishable. Using a DJ aerial after a fair is much more safer and is much less punishable.

 

[xoxokev]

you cant really space nair...

 

[Earthbound360]

Uair and Fair always autocancel Chuee. They have the same amount o lag which is not 100% safe on shields, but if you're quick, you can sometimes escape delayed grab.

 

[Chuee]

No, autocanceling is where the ending lag of the aerial ends a few frames before you hit the ground. If you land before the ending lag is over there's always landing lag.

 

[Earthbound360]

Autocancel is when certain aerials (such as Ness' uair fair and bair) hit the grond during the move and you take action during the IASA frams near the beggining of the landing animation, therefore, cancelling the lag of the full aerial landing animation. THere was a topic a while back that had a full list of autocancellable aerials. Ganon for example, has none.

Its irritating when I c autocancelling coined as the term for "finishing an aerial before you hit the ground" >_>
You're not cancelling anything.

 

[Yink]

I have a tournament tomorrow.

Hype, going to represent some Ness.

 

[thesage]

Dair in melee autocancels for every frame the hitbox is not out. I'm pretty sure it's the same in brawl...

 

[Levitas]

LOL there were two "definitions" for autocancelling in melee and they were completely different things iirc.

As far as I'm know, the best brawl definition for autocancelling is when normal landing lag replaces aerial landing lag upon hitting the ground instead of the aerial's landing lag if the aerial hadn't run its course to completion (ie you couldn't take another action before landing, even if that action would have been incomplete)

In other words, EB360 is completely right, though I wouldn't have bothered using the term IASA as that applies to normal landing animations w/o a cancel as well (is pretty sure about that one)

 

[Chuee]

Autocancel is when certain aerials (such as Ness' uair fair and bair) hit the grond during the move and you take action during the IASA frams near the beggining of the landing animation, therefore, cancelling the lag of the full aerial landing animation. THere was a topic a while back that had a full list of autocancellable aerials. Ganon for example, has none.

Its irritating when I c autocancelling coined as the term for "finishing an aerial before you hit the ground" >_>
You're not cancelling anything.

I was sure Ankoku posted a topic awhile ago with smash terms where it said AC was landing 1 frame after the hitbox ends. Something like that.
Either way Nair and Uair both have landing lag when you DAS them.

 

[Earthbound360]

No im pretty sure it was Tyr that made the thread. It doesnt have 2 be a specific frame, just before the aerial ends.

Nair has lag. It doesnt autocancel. Uair and fair have the same, very small lag.

 

[Chuee]

Either way you're landing right in front of the opponent which is possibly the worst place to be after you hit you're opponents shield. Most characters with decent grab ranges will shield grab you.

 

[Uffe]

If you read your opponent and they like to spot dodge a lot, then use DAS. Otherwise just retreat your nair.

 

[Chuee]

DJ nair works just as well.

 

[Delta-cod]

Pound 4 Pools are up, whoever's going.

I'm confident I can get Top 3.

 

[FuPoo]

Good luck smash64.

 

[Delta-cod]

Good luck smash64.

I don't get any? D:

 

[Eagleye893]

good luck delta-cod and smash64... and anyone else who is going...

 

[Chuee]

I wish I was going :'(

 

[Uffe]

I don't get any? D:

Oh bebe! ;O








I'm kidding! Good luck, Delta-cod and Smash64!

 

[Yink]

Uffe literally made me LOL, really loud.

I can just see him in awesome clothes, in Delta's face, close to this lips, whispering..."Oh Bebe..."

 

[Trips707]

Hello Ness Boards

...am I cool yet?

 

[FuPoo]

I don't get any? D:

fff I wasn't aware you were going. Good luck to you as well. Be careful out there.

 

[Yink]

Hello Ness Boards

...am I cool yet?

Hello there. I love your avatar, Masked Man <3, that makes you cool by me. Welcome to the Ness boards.

 

[FuPoo]

 

[Eagleye893]

cactuar doesn't like toast... he just shoves thousands of needles into peoples bodies and runs away....

and toast can't talk!

 

[Trips707]

Hello there. I love your avatar, Masked Man <3, that makes you cool by me. Welcome to the Ness boards.

Thank you, its my favorite texture to use while fighting as Ness. I'm really hoping to make some friends here...instead lurking around.

 

[Yink]

Always a good plan. Enjoy your stay, have fun, be rockin'...whatever

@FuPoo: L. O. L.

 

[FuPoo]

and toast can't talk!

Sounds like you're living in the FANTASY WORLD

 

[Delta-cod]

I have no idea my statement would lead to such a funny conversation. XD

I laughed, hard.

 

[thesage]

Chudat 3 stocked me in a Ness ditto in melee today. =(

 

[mobilisq]

i dont have any opponents anymore :[

 

[Yink]

i dont have any opponents anymore :[

HEY. I made you a gift for x-mas. Look down the Ness Board main page a little, it's in there under "Early X-Mas gifts".

 

[smash64]

thanks for the luck guys it means a lot! =]

 

[Uffe]

Uffe literally made me LOL, really loud.

I can just see him in awesome clothes, in Delta's face, close to this lips, whispering..."Oh Bebe..."

That's a scary thought. XD I can't see images on this computer, so I'm not sure what FuPoo posted up. :/

 

[Delta-cod]

I'm not entirely sure what the image meant myself, but your and Eagleeye's avatars were in it.

Also, my pool keeps getting changed, though with each change it seems to get easier. I'm confident I can get top 3 and move out of pools. =D

 

[mobilisq]

HEY. I made you a gift for x-mas. Look down the Ness Board main page a little, it's in there under "Early X-Mas gifts".

haha that's cool, thanks!

still want a friend code for it or should i just edit it in meself?