Ness Tournament Results

[PKSkyler]

I lost to Atomsk... I'm still learning the Ness vs. Dedede match up.

I didn't get too much better just I started playing in the right mindset.

im not familar with Atomsk. Is that Ademisk, with a differnt alias?

dedede vs Ness is actually pretty tough. However, its definantly winnable. ive lost and won against my fair share of dededes, but as for advice im afraid i have none to give in paticular.

getting 9th at a tourney (especially one like that!!!)) means you are good. So youve gotton better, since way back when you posted your first results on 7/26/08 xD im sure i could learn a lot from you. im still losing at my local tournies (although they are over populated with Marths, lol.)

what do you mean exactly "with the right mindset" ?

 

[Ref]

Atomsk is a really good NJ player.

Playing with the right mind set is knowing your opponent is a challenge but you can over come it, no matter how tough it is. Vice grip gave good advice on that check my guide for it.

 

[PKSkyler]

Atomsk is a really good NJ player.

Playing with the right mind set is knowing your opponent is a challenge but you can over come it, no matter how tough it is. Vice grip gave good advice on that check my guide for it.

ive been playing with the wrong mindset then. I really should work on that.

 

[Masky]

Great job Ref!

 

[Criosphinx]

I lost to Atomsk... I'm still learning the Ness vs. Dedede match up..

PK fire works WONDERS in the D3 matchup. PK jump a waddle throw, and your options are amazing. It's quite tough for him to DI out of the fire, as well. Keeping a wall of fire up on a waddle seriously limits his potential momentum field, keep that in mind.

Grats on the 9th place.

 

[Ref]

Atomsk DIs out so easily, I tried it. He's a top player for a reason and Pk fire tends not to work too well on top players.

 

[Masky]

PK fire works WONDERS in the D3 matchup. PK jump a waddle throw, and your options are amazing. It's quite tough for him to DI out of the fire, as well. Keeping a wall of fire up on a waddle seriously limits his potential momentum field, keep that in mind.

Grats on the 9th place.

Uhm... I don't know what DDDs you've been playing but they can just ftilt their waddle dee to make it fly far away from the fire.

 

[thesage]

Your Username: Ref
What place you were in : 9TH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tournament Style: Singles / Pools
Tournament Date: 10/18/08
Tournament Location: NYC
Tournament Size(how many people were there): 167!!!!!
Tournament Thread Link: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5623796#post5623796
Other characters you used: NESS ONLY

lolwut? This is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqU6NxQmUjM

 

[Criosphinx]

Atomsk DIs out so easily, I tried it. He's a top player for a reason and Pk fire tends not to work too well on top players.

Sure he'll DI out of it, but the fact remains that D3 has no offensive options after DI'ing through the fire, leaving him in a similar situation than he was, with just a bit more percent to make up. It may be easy to escape, but it plays a decent poke game with the heavies.

Uhm... I don't know what DDDs you've been playing but they can just ftilt their waddle dee to make it fly far away from the fire.

Similarly to DI'ing from the fire, if he tilts the waddle away, he's in no better a situation than he was. The only difference is that now he has limited his space for a few seconds. Additionally, in the time during the tilt, you could PK jump into D3. With a successful PK jump landing, before anyone would have a chance to DI the fire, you could get a neutral combo, grab, or at low percents, a U-tilt chain.

I wouldn't dare presume PK fire is the answer to everything, but ignoring it, especially against large characters, is just foolish.

 

[Earthbound360]

Uhm... I don't know what DDDs you've been playing but they can just ftilt their waddle dee to make it fly far away from the fire.

The point is you basically have a litle mine on the field that will limit approaches and stop more waddle dees from coming. Setting off the pillar = good

 

[Masky]

The point is you basically have a litle mine on the field that will limit approaches and stop more waddle dees from coming. Setting off the pillar = good

I understand and I've used this tactic a lot... but still it's not going to make the matchup imo. Most good DDDs don't use the Waddles a lot anyway from what I've seen

 

[Ref]

Yea Atomsk doesn't use Waddles on stage often... He has tons of options once getting out of PK fire as well.

 

[neomadgic]

Wooooow! That's awesome Ref! Look at all the good people in that tourney too.

 

[smashmelee22]

1st place Ness! 12 people, 1 vs 1, forget the date, GameStop, Scranton, PA, Ness only

 

[Brinzy]

Congratulations to all of the Ness players here. Keep up the good work. Excellent placement, Ref.

 

[yummynbeefy]

i got top 8 out of 128 at my local tourney (its at some museum every sunday)
i used ness most of the time but i also used pit and link for some staged unfortunately my last match was falco vs link and i lost(im wondering what would have happened if i picked ness or pit)

 

[PKSkyler]

i got top 8 out of 128 at my local tourney (its at some museum every sunday)
i used ness most of the time but i also used pit and link for some staged unfortunately my last match was falco vs link and i lost(im wondering what would have happened if i picked ness or pit)

please fill out the criteria listed on the front page, because 8 out of 128 is very impressive!

 

[Ref]

If you can change the results thread to the one I got 9th out of 167 to this http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=200715

 

[PKSkyler]

If you can change the results thread to the one I got 9th out of 167 to this http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=200715

wait so this is a diffrent tourney or the same? if its the same ill update. and **** dude you did really well.

 

[Ref]

It's the same tourney just the old link can't be found now. And thanks.

 

[Jtails]

I have a link with all the info of the criteria.
I got 4th out of like 30?

its not too impressive but it puts ness up there.

in any case here is a link http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5728005#post5728005

 

[Uffe]

That's pretty cool!

 

[Jtails]

thanks uffe =] I also saw ref last week at the weekly. lol wonder if ill see him again.

 

[PKSkyler]

please fill out the stuff....like how it is in the first post, jtails.

 

[Jtails]

Your Username: Jtails
What place you were in: 4th, 4th
Tournament Style singles and doubles
Team Attack On? yes
Tournament Date November 1st 2008
Tournament Location NY brooklyn, polytech
Tournament Size 30
Tournament Thread Link http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5728005#post5728005
Other characters you used Diddy kong, ROB

AAANND i also realized that i was in the same tournament ref was in i got 25th though.

Your Username: Jtails
What place you were in: 25th 25th
Tournament Style singles and doubles
Team Attack On? yes
Tournament Date October 18th 2008
Tournament Location NY Manhatan, play and trade
Tournament Size 167
Tournament Thread Link http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=200715
Other characters you used Toon link, diddy kong

 

[Achoral]

Your Username : Achoral
What place you were in : 4th
Tournament Style : Singles
Tournament Date : October 26th, 2008
Tournament Location : Gnouz Ranking Battle 2 Season 2 (Malakoff, France)
Tournament Size : 20 people (including pools)
Tournament Thread Link : http://gnouz-corporation.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=719
Other characters you used : Luigi, Lucario

What place you were in : 2nd
Tournament Style : Singles
Tournament Date : November 1st, 2008
Tournament Location : Bushido Impact @ Chibi Japan Expo '08 (Montreuil, France)
Tournament Size : 40 people (including pools)
Tournament Thread Link : http://bushidoimpact.meilleurforum.com/tournois-events-f3/resultats-chibi-japan-2008-t758.htm
Other characters you used : Luigi, Lucario

The videos are here : http://allisbrawl.com/video/album.aspx?id=3091
I've played pretty badly though. I still don't find an opportunity to use the Dtilt, and I still suicide using the PK Thunder. x_x;

 

[PKSkyler]

Great job, Achoral and Jtails!

hey achoral, if you can give me a list of the top 8 and the characters they used for both of those tournies, the tournies can be added to the "tier list" tourney list, which will help ness out. (even if its only a little, everyone getting top 8 in a tourney of 13 or more will help ness out.)

 

[Jtails]

thanx skyler =] reppin Ness!!

 

[Achoral]

I could, but isn't this tier list only for the USA ?

 

[PKSkyler]

I could, but isn't this tier list only for the USA ?

Maybe, but itll still get grouped intot he character tounament usage list. Which will give Ness points regardless.

 

[ViceGrip]

haha, at a small tournament last saturday i got 1st in doubles and 2nd in singles. I doubt it counts for anything but it was still fun. I beat Connor's meta and snake and won the 1st set of grand finals, then he went marth for the 2nd set and it went down to 2-2 and the final match was on brinstar (my cp) and he got a tipper on me on the breakable bubble things in the middle of the stage. good times. only 11 entrants for singles but hey, 17 bucks for 2nd is $$$ i didn't have b4 lol.

link to the tournament.
http://allisbrawl.com/ttournament.aspx?id=3457

 

[PKSkyler]

Well ill add it up here ViceGrip but it wont count for the rankings
Wait you stayed Ness vs his Marth? are you a crazy person? 0_o
Good job though. Keep it up. ^_^

 

[ViceGrip]

haha thanks. Yea, as annoying as the matchup can be (the infinite is not a large issue, marth is just good in general vs Ness) I sux with everyone else so Ness is still my best bet and I can usually beat Marths that aren't 'mikehaze-like.'

 

[PKSkyler]

haha thnaks. Yea, as annoying as the matchup can be (the infinite is not a large issue, marth is just good in general vs Ness) I sux with everyone else so Ness is still my best bet and I can usually beat Marths that aren't 'mikehaze-like.'

I always switch to Snake vs Marths. The infinites isnt that bad, your right, but its just Marth has Ness` number soooo hard.....

PS: Nyjin beat Mikehaze! O_O
But i beat Nyjin in "serious" friendlys

 

[thesage]

I thought Marth couldn't infinite Ness >_>;

 

[ViceGrip]

lolz. is that 4 sure proven? i didn't bother experimenting w/ it just cause I jump break enough as it is for it not to be an issue. I really should try it out i guess. @ pkskyler: that's smart to pick snake, how does that usually work out 4 u? lol, serious friendlies, that's cool, he's a smart falco from what I can tell from online matches. Good stuff w/ him beating haze.

 

[xoxokev]

Yeah it's proven. EIDI works. But Marth can still dsmash... I think

 

[PKSkyler]

lolz. is that 4 sure proven? i didn't bother experimenting w/ it just cause I jump break enough as it is for it not to be an issue. I really should try it out i guess. @ pkskyler: that's smart to pick snake, how does that usually work out 4 u? lol, serious friendlies, that's cool, he's a smart falco from what I can tell from online matches. Good stuff w/ him beating haze.

I ussually jump break too.....
It works out well until they counter pick. Corneria and Jungle Japes have screwed me over as Snake. Corneria vs Marth and Jungle Japes vs Lucario.

When he beat haze everyone from sd and chula vista yelled so loud, lol. Hes really good online but hes even better irl.

 

[ViceGrip]

lolz, skyler, I just realized that you wrote a comment on my page like 2 months ago. Didn't even know smashboards had a personal comment/friend feature...just added 1st smashboards friend today haha. But anyway, i realize i never posted how I did at the quiznos tournament in September. Or if i did you didn't put it on front page yet. here's the info.

your username: ViceGrip
What place you were in: 9th
Tournament Style: Singles
Tournament Date: September 28, 2008
Tournament Location: QUIZZZZZnos
Tournament Size: 82
Characters used: NESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSss

link: http://allisbrawl.com/ttournament.aspx?id=2466

Edit: oh eff, i did put this up earliar, I just dun see it on front side. mah bad

 

[PKSkyler]

lol i forgot about that comment

Anyway did i update the front page with that? ill do it now if I didnt.