Ness is out: Come and help those in denial...

[DekuBoy]

i love all random nintendo characters

 

[PrettyGoodYear]

Yeah, I never get to use PK Flash, not even to edgeguard... not when they're far away, not when they're close, never. It could definitely see some improvement... power is fine, it just needs some speed and control, and it should explode even if Ness is hit, like, it explodes when he is hit, and it shouldn't dissappear when it touches a platform, that's annoying.

PSI Magnet is usable, but yeah, a little bit of speed there would be nice.

 

[RK Tha Prez]

whatever, ness should be in, but what we should have is Heavy Armed Pokey as an assist trophy.

*release a very stinky gas*
*the damage everyone does is halved*

 

[PrettyGoodYear]

Yeah, I've always been saying Pokey = Assist Trophy.

However, after the addition of the Subspace Emissary, I think he could be present there as some sort of villain.

 

[Hong]

Like I said earlier, Ness' base moveset is amazing, but his special abilities should definately be looked at. I still don't know why they gave him three PSI abilities he doesn't even learn in Earthbound when he has much more to draw from. Heck, they didn't even use his exclusive; PSI Rockin' which is his most powerful ability. I'm sure it'll appear in some form or another, possibly as a Final Smash.

 

[MageNinja]

The reason why some people don't want Ness is probably of his skills. You gotta be real stategic if you want him in full potential.

oh BTW, that pic's fake.

 

[Johnknight1]

If Ness or Lucas aren't in Brawl [as long as one are in I won't do the following], I'll send hate mail to Reggie everyday, because Ness and Lucas f***ing rock to the max! Us EarthBound cult followrs will kill babies to keep Ness in Brawl, lol! XD Ness should return, I think he's the 3rd most unique character in the series IMO [behind only G&W and the IC]. He's more of a advanced character in both SSB64 and Melee, however, requiring precise timing in SSB64, and requiring his jackets in Melee. In Brawl I see him being similar, but still somewat easier to use!

And love the first post, that was neat-looking [you should instantly assume it's fake btw. It was a neat fanmade thing btw]! If Ness isn't in Brawl I'm going to go crazy!!!!

-Johnknight1

 

[NessOwnsYou]

I Freaking love Ness and I would hate to see no Earthbound/Mother characters in Brawl, I love the games and Ness and Lucas. I grew up on Earthbound/Mother 2 and loved Mother 3 so I want one of the two

 

[goodkid]

I hope to see Poo. We already know Ness will be there, but the question is if other Earthbound/Mother characters will be there. I don't want Lucas because they look too similar, but I can't say much because I don't know much about Lucas. Poo would be the best choice because he would be a true martial arts fighter.

 

[axemangx]

I'd rather see them both.. especially since Lucas had the combo music introduced.. imagine the move
I'll try to make a Lucas moveset.

Up Special: Music Combo from the game or whatever. Lucas creates a bunch of music notes about his opponent and juggles him depending on how the beat is.

 

[blayde_axel]

Actually, I'm THIS close to beating Earthbound. Pokey keeps killing me.
BTW, why doesn't Ness use his on signature move from the game... Rockin?

 

[Super Smash Master]

I personally hope Ness is replaced by Lucas like he was always indended to be. Not that I have anything against Ness. Eartbound is my favorite RPG ever. I just want Claus and it is more likely that Claus will show up if Lucas is present.

 

[blayde_axel]

How'd you get to play Mother 3? Don't tell me you know Japanese! lol.

 

[PrettyGoodYear]

Actually, I'm THIS close to beating Earthbound. Pokey keeps killing me.
BTW, why doesn't Ness use his on signature move from the game... Rockin?

Yeah, I always thought his specials should have been his actual moves... Paralysis, Hypnosis, Teleport and of course, Rockin... they could've definitely pulled something great off.

Oh well, that ship has already sailed.

But Ness is awesome... I want to name my kid Ness :D I really hope he stays...

 

[blayde_axel]

I must agree. In fact, I loved the story of Earthbound so much, I promised I'd play with him more often... and he really isn't that bad a character.

 

[PrettyGoodYear]

Yeah, gotta love the story of EarthBound... and that's what's so great about Smash, playing as your favorites. I really hope they make him more usable in Brawl, but hey, I'll keep playing with him even if he is worse than in Melee.

 

[axemangx]

Did we mention Mother 3 is Japan Only as of now?

Sakurai clearly instated he wasnt going to add Japan-Only characters.

 

[PrettyGoodYear]

No he didn't, that's a misquote, he said something along the lines of not adding more japan-only characters, but immedeatly afterwards he said that due to the success the FE characters had in Melee, he is not totally against the idea. He's neutral I guess.

 

[_the_sandman_]

This might sound crazy, but what if this happened?

If Paula made it into Smash Bros and took Ness's PK Fire and Thunder from him, what would he have? Those originally were Paula's attacks, so I can see her coming up in order to stay true to Ness's original abilities.

Ness
B - PK Flash
>B - PK Paralysis - Ranged attack that makes an opponent dazed.
^B - PK Teleport - Similar to Mewtwo's. But has a 1/10 chance to misfire like Luigi.
VB - Life Up - Hold for 5 seconds in order to heal 10%

Paula
B - PK Ice - Shield of Ice. Freezes opponents on contact.
>B - PK Fire
^B - PK Thunder
VB - PSI Magnet

 

[blayde_axel]

Right, Sandman! Ness had the teleport PSI! What the heck happened to that? He got stuck with that sucky Thunder. Unless he had it in Earthbound Zero.

 

[Hong]

Ninten is completely different from Ness, as are all the Mother 1 characters. They're just counterparts to the core.

I rather have Princess Kumatora from Mother 3 than Paula, simply to treat both Mother 2 and Mother 3. Yeah, she's not the main character, but she's different from Ness and Lucas.

Edit - I should also mention that she is on Sakurai's poll. If Lucas is in, she's almost guaranteed to be in. If Ness is in, not so much.

 

[Voraine]

Yeah, gotta love the story of EarthBound... and that's what's so great about Smash, playing as your favorites. I really hope they make him more usable in Brawl, but hey, I'll keep playing with him even if he is worse than in Melee.

Even as bad as he was in melee, I was still able to beat any challengers with him.

 

[silver777]

Ness dodged a really, really, really big bullet when MOTHER 3 (N64) got caught in development hell. If MOTHER 3 had been delayed only half as badly as it was delayed, Ness would not have been in Melee (replaced by someone referred to as "a/the hero of MOTHER 3" and fanonically accepted to be Lucas), and I'm beginning to wonder if he might not have been in the original as well.

I think Ness will be out this time.

 

[PrettyGoodYear]

This might sound crazy, but what if this happened?

If Paula made it into Smash Bros and took Ness's PK Fire and Thunder from him, what would he have? Those originally were Paula's attacks, so I can see her coming up in order to stay true to Ness's original abilities.

Ness
B - PK Flash
>B - PK Paralysis - Ranged attack that makes an opponent dazed.
^B - PK Teleport - Similar to Mewtwo's. But has a 1/10 chance to misfire like Luigi.
VB - Life Up - Hold for 5 seconds in order to heal 10%

Paula
B - PK Ice - Shield of Ice. Freezes opponents on contact.
>B - PK Fire
^B - PK Thunder
VB - PSI Magnet

Yeah, I wanted Paula to get into Melee so something like this could've happened. But >B should be Teleport, and I don't think a healing move could get into Smash...

 

[_the_sandman_]

Yeah, I wanted Paula to get into Melee so something like this could've happened. But >B should be Teleport, and I don't think a healing move could get into Smash...

Maybe not a healing move, but perhaps PK Rocking? He could make a quake or something? I dunno.... if he had Paralysis it would help him pull off Flash more often. I know he runs to teleport. But maybe he can run in place to charge, and then teleport.

 

[PrettyGoodYear]

Maybe not a healing move, but perhaps PK Rocking? He could make a quake or something? I dunno.... if he had Paralysis it would help him pull off Flash more often. I know he runs to teleport. But maybe he can run in place to charge, and then teleport.

Well that too, or he could run in a small circle a la Teleport B, and Rockin could behave like PK Fire, just that instead of fire, you get shapes similar to those of the Rockin animation.

 

[_the_sandman_]

Hmm... an alternate to the PK Fire sounds good. Mario and Luigi did both have fireballs, so Ness and Paula can have a similar attack as well!

Ness
B - PK Flash
>B - PK Rockin
VB - PK Paralysis
^B - PK Teleport

Does that seem better now?

 

[PrettyGoodYear]

Yeah, that does look good, if Paula got in and took her moves back, then that would be a great Ness set. ah... Paula... I still wish she could've been in Melee.

 

[jobustillos]

he's gonna make it i know it

 

[StarshipGroove]

PSI Rockin' is too overpowered to be a special move. In Earthbound it would deal massive damage to every opponent on screen with perfect accuracy. Although you could say the same for PK Flash...

 

[NessPaulaJeffPoo]

PSI Rockin' is too overpowered to be a special move. In Earthbound it would deal massive damage to every opponent on screen with perfect accuracy. Although you could say the same for PK Flash...

agreed. PK Rockin could easily be his final smash move though.

 

[Brawlmatt202]

UGH! That fake Brawl profile looks... funky...

Still, ever since I started playing EarthBound for the first time (I downloaded it onto my computer, recently), I've been a huge fan of it! I really hope Ness returns!

 

[the grim lizard]

PK flash sucks. If they're going to keep it, they'll need to tweak it a lot.

 

[blayde_axel]

PSI Rockin's GONNA be his final. I'm sorry... he has nothing else! Now... if only Nintendo could use the EXACT animations from Earthbound... giving it an old-school feel. That would be great.

 

[Dynamism]

What about PSI Starstorm...it wasn't his but he could use it in smash!

 

[PolarisJunkie]

I'd love if Ness returned in Brawl, seeing as he's my main fighter. I love his aerial combos and I disagree with his yo-yos. They can be annoying and I've juggled people before with them.

With Lucas, I'm indifferent. On one hand I don't want him, because I don't really know who he is. On the other hand, I do want him. Why? Well, in Melee, Marth and Roy got in and brought the FE games stateside. Maybe if Lucas comes in, we can finally get Mother 3, which I've been waiting for since it was announced on the N64.

Regardless, if both were in, thats fine. Ness for Brawl all the way!

 

[Brawlmatt202]

What about PSI Starstorm...it wasn't his but he could use it in smash!

I'd prefer to see PSI Gaming.

PSI Starstorm can be used by Poo, if he makes it in.

 

[NessPaulaJeffPoo]

I'm becoming more and more doubtful that he is returning... and it makes me sad.

 

[prettymanfairy]

I'm becoming more and more doubtful that he is returning... and it makes me sad.

Ah. No worries. There's room enough for two Earthbound reps. And Lucas will be Epic. I will main with him if he is in. PK Love FTW.

 

[blayde_axel]

I don't enough of Lucas's backstory to say "I'M GONNA MAIN HIM!", so I'll just be interested to try him out...

HE BETTER NOT BE A CLONE!