Ness is out: Come and help those in denial...

[AdmantNESS]

If we set ourselves up for disappointment, that's OUR problem. Not yours.

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

If we set ourselves up for disappointment, that's OUR problem. Not yours.

Well, excuse me... Forgive me for attempting to save you some heartache. I didn't know this was such a touchy subject for Ness fans.

 

[ThoraxeRMG]

You tell me what the "up until now" is referring to.

Possibly a reference to say that something has appeared in every version of a series including the 'new' one. Besides, Sakurai also used "Until now' for another things as well, but there in.

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly, I don't see the point of adding in Ness as a PC anymore. He is no different than Lucas moveset wise. Characters shouldn't be judged and wanted in by their appearance. It is how their movesets are and how good one is with him. Ness is probably better off as an alt or a trophy but a character shouldn't be based by anything but how good you are with them in Smash. If you were good with Ness, than you'll be good with Lucas. Live with it.

 

[ThoraxeRMG]

He is no different than Lucas moveset wise.

Even when Sakurai stated that Lucas is more psychical?

Characters shouldn't be judged and wanted in by their appearance. It is how their movesets are and how good one is with him.

I kinda agree.

Ness is probably better off as an alt or a trophy

No...

but a character shouldn't be based by anything but how good you are with them in Smash.

True.

If you were good with Ness, than you'll be good with Lucas. Live with it.

Most likely you won't, because of their, um, differences.

 

[Deleted member]

My responses in Green.

Even when Sakurai stated that Lucas is more psychical?

Like how?


No...

It is true. As an alt, at least you can still be him. Same looks same moveset. Done. Hell, maybe if this is what Sakurai wants to do than name the alt Ness so the announcer can say "This games winner is... Ness". I'd do that. =|

I say Ness as an alt AND a trophy.

Most likely you won't, because of their, um, differences.

And there really isn't much except for their appearances. That's what the alt idea is for.

 

[RegalBuster]

I wouldn't suspect him not returning just yet, remember how he was unlockable in ssb64? Well The thing that makes me still have hope in his return is the fact that Captain Falcon, Luigi, and Jigglypuff haven't been confirmed yet. So he and the rest of the unlockable 4 of ssb64 may all return as unlockable characters again.

 

[hyruleboy]

I don't need Ness in.
All I need is ONE little referacne, a little bit of Pollyanna, and I'll be happy.

 

[AdmantNESS]

Speaking of Pollyanna:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPv5QSNh1C8&mode=user&search=

 

[bballstar23]

I wouldn't suspect him not returning just yet, remember how he was unlockable in ssb64? Well The thing that makes me still have hope in his return is the fact that Captain Falcon, Luigi, and Jigglypuff haven't been confirmed yet. So he and the rest of the unlockable 4 of ssb64 may all return as unlockable characters again.

That theory is actually not that bad

 

[RegalBuster]

That theory is actually not that bad

yay! someone likes my idea!

 

[DeuceBlade]

Jumping to conclusions, something many Anti-Ness haters do.

 

[RegalBuster]

yeah don't they ever.

 

[DarkVision]

Jumping to conclusions, something many Anti-Ness haters do.

More than 2 months since Lucas' confirmation

Everything that was going on between that time?

...Lucas' moves where the only thing keeping Ness hanging from the string

It was hardly "jumping" waiting for a long time arguing between Ness and Lucas fans before Lucas was announced...

 

[RegalBuster]

I'm a Lucas and Ness fangirl.

 

[AdmantNESS]

There is another Ness support topic but it must have been pushed back a few pages by the ****storm of topics that Dec. 3 brought.

 

[DeuceBlade]

More than 2 months since Lucas' confirmation

Everything that was going on between that time?

...Lucas' moves where the only thing keeping Ness hanging from the string

It was hardly "jumping" waiting for a long time arguing between Ness and Lucas fans before Lucas was announced...

Lucas' moves deconfirm ness? ROFL

Lucas is very similar. They are from the same family of PK users.

This is why they are similar, Sakurai clearly states why. Clearly.

 

[DarkVision]

Lucas' moves deconfirm ness? ROFL

This is why they are similar, Sakurai clearly states why. Clearly.

Lucas' moves might as well have...

I don't want Ness back knowing he'd just end up having the same moves as someone already confirmed.

 

[vesperview]

This is why they are similar, Sakurai clearly states why. Clearly.

You would know that even if it wasn't stated there, unless you have some sort of mental disability.

 

[RegalBuster]

Ness still has a chance!

 

[vesperview]

People just want him back because he was their main or they LOVE him, please, all of those people making fun of those who have come to terms with Ness's deconfirmation, have yet to provide good reasons for him to return.

 

[ThoraxeRMG]

You would know that even if it wasn't stated there, unless you have some sort of mental disability.

There’s a character named Ness who has appeared in the Smash Bros. series up until now, and Lucas is very similar. They are from the same family of PK users.

*Cough* .

 

[DeuceBlade]

You would know that even if it wasn't stated there, unless you have some sort of mental disability.

Vesper Im sure you must know that not everyone here has played (or imported ROFL) the Mother series (I know because you enjoy using it against people).

So not everyone would know they came from the same Family of PK users. Sakurai however knew that not everyone played all of the games from the Mother series (smart man that Sakurai) So he purposely stated that Ness and Lucas can have similar moves due to them coming from the same family of PK.

While that line does not confirm Ness playable, it also does not deconfirm him (along with any other line for that matter).

So hopefully Ness is revealed soon (HOPEZ) so people can stop hating.

Up until now, Ness has not been deconfirmed

remember no matter what you think, until Sakurai confirms something it remains unknown.

 

[AdmantNESS]

*Agrees with Deuce*

 

[vesperview]

Try using up until now in a sentence that makes sense.

For example:

I used to post in these forums, up until now.

What do you get from that?

 

[raphtmarqui]

Things defanetly dont look good for Ness/

 

[hyruleboy]

Why would anyone think Ness was still in?

 

[Diddy&Dixie4evr]

isn't lucas the same as ness, and there is no clones supposedly.

 

[RegalBuster]

Vesper Im sure you must know that not everyone here has played (or imported ROFL) the Mother series (I know because you enjoy using it against people).

So not everyone would know they came from the same Family of PK users. Sakurai however knew that not everyone played all of the games from the Mother series (smart man that Sakurai) So he purposely stated that Ness and Lucas can have similar moves due to them coming from the same family of PK.

While that line does not confirm Ness playable, it also does not deconfirm him (along with any other line for that matter).

So hopefully Ness is revealed soon (HOPEZ) so people can stop hating.

Up until now, Ness has not been deconfirmed

remember no matter what you think, until Sakurai confirms something it remains unknown.

I agree with you i liked that little guy to much for Lucas to replace him! >

 

[DeuceBlade]

Try using up until now in a sentence that makes sense.

For example:

I used to post in these forums, up until now.

What do you get from that?

I have been posting in these forums up until now, and I am really enjoying it.

You shifted your sentence into past tense by using the word "used" which makes up until now appear as past tense, or something you did.

This was not used however in the Sakurai update it was more neutral/current tense, then past tense imo.

 

[RegalBuster]

I have been posting in these forums up until now, and I am really enjoying it.

You shifted your sentence into past tense by using the word "used" which makes up until now appear as past tense, or something you did.

This was not used however in the Sakurai update it was more neutral/current tense, then past tense imo.

I've played video games up until now, and i'm not going to stop!

 

[vesperview]

I have been posting in these forums up until now, and I am really enjoying it.

You shifted your sentence into past tense by using the word "used" which makes up until now appear as past tense, or something you did.

This was not used however in the Sakurai update it was more neutral/current tense, then past tense imo.

There’s a character named Ness who has appeared in the Smash Bros. series up until now

That's a past tense, bottom line, you don't use up until now, unless you want to set and end to things or imply some kind of change.

I have been here up until now and I'm still here, makes no sense.

 

[DeuceBlade]

isn't lucas the same as ness, and there is no clones supposedly.

and supposedly there wasn't going to be much Japanese only stuff.. I guess Sakurai changed his mind, oh and lets not forget.. Ness is the original.

I've played video games up until now, and i'm not going to stop!

Looks like Sakurai isn't the only one who can use "up until now", we can too! lol

That's a past tense, bottom line, you don't use up until now, unless you want to set and end to things or imply some kind of change.

"Has" is past tense?

"Ness has a bat in his hand"
"Ness has just been CONFIRMED" (hope)

You werent serious were you vesp?

 

[finalark]

Ness who has appeared in the Smash Bros. series up until now

Ness appeared until now

End of story.

 

[vesperview]

"Has" is past tense?

"Ness has a bat in his hand"
"Ness has just been CONFIRMED" (hope)

You werent serious were you vesp?

I had a mixup, I just wanted to bold the appeared, still you know I'm right.

 

[Triple_Factorial]

DISCLAIMER: I personally believe that Ness has been removed. I am not trying to impose this opinion in the post below, nor do I want anyone to mistake my alignment in the Ness Wars.

This analogy is pretty much the only thing that gives Ness a chance at this point (microscopic, but a chance nonetheless)

Lucas's Moves's "up until now" is to Ness as the Cracker Launcher's "Control Stick" is to the Wii Remote alone.

Yes, I'm comparing a veteran to a control scheme. Let's face it: we ALL thought the Cracker Launcher's "Control Stick" disconfirmed (not deconfirmed) the Wii Remote alone as a possible control scheme because it lacks one. Apparently that was a big misunderstanding from us, as I'm fairly sure the D-Pad on the Sideways Wiimote aims the Cracker Launcher just like the Control Sticks do.

Could this Lucas-Ness situation also be a misunderstanding? Seeing from the other times "up until now" has been used, I doubt it.

 

[vesperview]

DISCLAIMER: I personally believe that Ness has been removed. I am not trying to impose this opinion in the post below, nor do I want anyone to mistake my alignment in the Ness Wars.

This analogy is pretty much the only thing that gives Ness a chance at this point (microscopic, but a chance nonetheless)

Lucas's Moves's "up until now" is to Ness as the Cracker Launcher's "Control Stick" is to the Wii Remote alone.

Yes, I'm comparing a veteran to a control scheme. Let's face it: we ALL thought the Cracker Launcher's "Control Stick" disconfirmed (not deconfirmed) the Wii Remote alone as a possible control scheme because it lacks one. Apparently that was a big misunderstanding from us, as I'm fairly sure the D-Pad on the Sideways Wiimote aims the Cracker Launcher just like the Control Sticks do.

Could this Lucas-Ness situation also be a misunderstanding? Seeing from the other times "up until now" has been used, I doubt it.

There's a lot more to it than mistranslations and movesets.

 

[finalark]

Disclaimers: AKA legal false advertising. And as I said before:

"Ness who has appeared in the Smash Bros. series up until now

Ness appeared until now

End of story."

 

[DeuceBlade]

Ness who has appeared in the Smash Bros. series up until now

Ness appeared until now

End of story.

So your saying Ness did not appear in any of the previous smash games?

because I don't know how you can indicate that Ness was in previous Smash games with the word "appear" without using "ed" at the end.

From my point of view, all that sentence says is "Ness was in the other games, and Lucas is like him because they are from the same family of pk users"

 

[finalark]

So your saying Ness did not appear in any of the previous smash games?

because I don't know how you can indicate that Ness was in previous Smash games with the word "appear" without using "ed" at the end.

From my point of view, all that sentence says is "Ness was in the other games, and Lucas is like him because they are from the same family of pk users"

Ether way, it says he's out.

...I hate fanboys. I seriously do.