Ramen King
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Actually Bardull probably would be the best shot if there is a vig.
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Yeah this. His taking his vote off Kary and continuing to ignore my guilty is incredibly scummy.Actually Bardull probably would be the best shot if there is a vig.
One of my main problems with you is that I felt like you were just trying to emulate town and you didn't really have a reason to post those questions. I didn't feel like you had a purpose for it, and your random Intervals where you would show up bothered me greatly. I feel like you're a player who asks questions to come to conclusions, not the other way around. I think your reasoning and this post is solid however, and you erase a lot of my doubt I had in the first place, I think I was being dumb before to be honest. Your second Paragraph really is just Meta in a way, but it's the same gist as to what I said before. My read on you wasn't all Meta actually, I dislike players who I feel just post without a solid reasoning, and it's one of the things I look for. I found myself alarmed especially with you because you're not that player, you always make your reasoning clear and precise. Could you tell me why you started out with those random questions for this game?Ranmaru said:I meant that I'm not trying to force 10 questions down one person's throat that would get us no where, like in Pulp Fiction. That, did not happen here. I did get conclusions from my questions, and I don't see why you are trying to act like you are psychic and say if I got conclusions or not. Yes, seeing Zen saying that Kary was scum, was what made me ask Kary those questions to see how he'd react, since it was just very rvs like. I did get a conclusion from it, and that was the he didn't have any real reason to ask J to proxy his vote. That right there, shows he is trying to fake doing something to seem town, which he had done as newb scum, and that is why I felt he was deff scummy. So, what else would you expect me to do? Nothing else had happened that I felt was scummy. Anything questionable? Yes, Nabe's statement about you. Did I find it scummy? No. Like I said to J, I'm not going to try to look else where for scum when
A) I don't see anything else that is scummy
B) I already believe the scum has shown themselves
Now talk to me. You are only reading me this way because of meta. Did you really think I just 'dropped' questioning style and instead just pushed cases on people that I find scummy? Like I think you and me did better together in GS3, so I don't see what's the difference. You like to use RVS to the best of it's ability, and so do I. Check out Celeb Rehab Mafia, and look at how I start off RVS. How do I do so? I start out with asking people simple rvs questions to get discussion going. I can't always "have a case" on someone when there hasn't been much to see in the first place. Sometimes I have to give questions to start discussion, simple as that. If I were to bring out a "case" on Kary, it would be an exact copy of what Zen has said, because he has already said it. If there was anything else to point out about Kary, I would bring it to light, yet there isn't. It's as simple as that. Now I don't think my questions are as useless as they used to be.
Kary and J were in a cat fight for a moment and Kary was slightly buddying J, I feel it would have worked itself out eventually however, and you just coming out like that in the middle of it didn't make much sense. Do you really feel you benefitted from those questions you asked before?What argument? Soup, tell me what they were arguing about at that very moment. Anyway, the reason why I asked that is because I wanted to know what he would say about you, and I wanted to know why he asked J about the proxy vote. (I asked about you because you had enough content to read, it was a throw in) So don't act like it was an interruption, because I don't see it that way. Especially since J already replied to Kary's question.
But then my issue comes back up. Why did it matter? Why did you care explictly? HOw was it important to you? Iirc Nabe really didn't post anything worth of merit until then and you kinda just latch onto him for no good reason.Yes, there was a reason to post that. I wanted to know why he disagreed with townsoup.
At some point, tell me what you got from this, ok?I HAVE A GUILTY ON KARY
Soup, I want to give you credit that this, like your vote, is part of some sort of scheme to get reads on people, and not just, well, derpy. Then I see you make a dozen posts regarding Bardull/Kantrip, only to come to the conclusion that it's SvS?Reminder to everyone: I will not take action to read July. I have already skimmed her walls between J and it's hard for me to pin her as a correct alignment. I will trust that we will lynch her sometime in the near future or she will die in the night.
They were already fairly addressed? I haven't come to the explicit conclusion I want which is why I highlighted and pointed those posts out in the first place. I'm waiting for a response until further judgement but I'm letting people know where my head is at.Kary said:Soup, I want to give you credit that this, like your vote, is part of some sort of scheme to get reads on people, and not just, well, derpy. Then I see you make a dozen posts regarding Bardull/Kantrip, only to come to the conclusion that it's SvS?
Please tell me you're actually going to address those reads and not just sit on them?
Ok I understand. At that time there wasn't anything solid for me to present, it was more of me trying to get a feel of the players. My "random interval" thing is because I'm impulsive and I go for what I have going in my head. Like I said, I felt Zen might have been right about Kary, so I just asked him a question about you and J to see what he would say, because knowing that scum have to fake their reads, just asking a question like that puts them on the spot. I can understand your concern though. The first questions I asked, I'll explain how I was thinking:One of my main problems with you is that I felt like you were just trying to emulate town and you didn't really have a reason to post those questions. I didn't feel like you had a purpose for it, and your random Intervals where you would show up bothered me greatly. I feel like you're a player who asks questions to come to conclusions, not the other way around. I think your reasoning and this post is solid however, and you erase a lot of my doubt I had in the first place, I think I was being dumb before to be honest. Your second Paragraph really is just Meta in a way, but it's the same gist as to what I said before. My read on you wasn't all Meta actually, I dislike players who I feel just post without a solid reasoning, and it's one of the things I look for. I found myself alarmed especially with you because you're not that player, you always make your reasoning clear and precise. Could you tell me why you started out with those random questions for this game?
I just felt there wasn't much to add to J's "You are silly, Kary". I didn't really know Kary was going to do more with that, and I just instantly asked Kary about his reads. I also do think I benefitted from the questions I asked, because then it showed J's and my thought process of what was going on. Even though there might have been a chance of an argument between Kary and J I didn't see, I feel it still went in a good direction, even though it wasn't in the one Kary and J were going to go into. Do you feel like what happened after wasn't useful to you in reading people?Kary and J were in a cat fight for a moment and Kary was slightly buddying J, I feel it would have worked itself out eventually however, and you just coming out like that in the middle of it didn't make much sense. Do you really feel you benefitted from those questions you asked before?
Well I thought you were pretty townie to me, so I wanted him to explain why he thought otherwise. It matters to me because I want people to justify their reads if they don't give a reason, especially when it's a town read that I want to keep in the game. Again, the random thing is only because I'm impulsive and I ask questions as soon as I think about them.But then my issue comes back up. Why did it matter? Why did you care explictly? HOw was it important to you? Iirc Nabe really didn't post anything worth of merit until then and you kinda just latch onto him for no good reason.
This logic is fair and I find myself impressed with it. I don't see any issues to bring up here.Ranmaru said:Ok I understand. At that time there wasn't anything solid for me to present, it was more of me trying to get a feel of the players. My "random interval" thing is because I'm impulsive and I go for what I have going in my head. Like I said, I felt Zen might have been right about Kary, so I just asked him a question about you and J to see what he would say, because knowing that scum have to fake their reads, just asking a question like that puts them on the spot. I can understand your concern though. The first questions I asked, I'll explain how I was thinking:
So Ramen just posted a list of reads, and I proceeded to talk about Kary and how I felt he'd be able to be an asset if he turned out to be town, and how Ryker might be able to help me read KevinM/Macman because that was something I'd have trouble with, and that gave me the idea of asking Ryker about KevinM's meta, because I totally got KevinM read wrong and I think it's my fault we went the wrong direction in Mario Party 2 and lynched Marshy. Then that gave me the idea of asking a few other people questions to just get discussion going.
I think it was useful if it had context, I had already gone over everything regarding this but I don't believe you should stop either, I was on your case for no reason and your questions definitely like Pulp Fiction.I just felt there wasn't much to add to J's "You are silly, Kary". I didn't really know Kary was going to do more with that, and I just instantly asked Kary about his reads. I also do think I benefitted from the questions I asked, because then it showed J's and my thought process of what was going on. Even though there might have been a chance of an argument between Kary and J I didn't see, I feel it still went in a good direction, even though it wasn't in the one Kary and J were going to go into. Do you feel like what happened after wasn't useful to you in reading people?
Alright.Well I thought you were pretty townie to me, so I wanted him to explain why he thought otherwise. It matters to me because I want people to justify their reads if they don't give a reason, especially when it's a town read that I want to keep in the game. Again, the random thing is only because I'm impulsive and I ask questions as soon as I think about them.
This is crap. You're openly trying to make J look bad for not voting you.If I'm scum, why didn't you vote for me in that same post?
Needs more gusto, J.
You mean all of those times you posted randomly you didn't read anything? I don't buy it and I don't buy that you didn't know, you came into this thread nonchalant trying to pretend that you didn't have a clue what was going on.Ranmaru/Soup vying for influence, but both of them look silly in the process.
I haven't properly read up yet, which is why I haven't followed any guilties/wagons/whatever.
Yes. I am the Necromancer.Bardull:
1. Do you have a power role?
2. Explain to me your real life schedule or the reason why you have yet to get in the game. I know you have been online because you voted in that poll in another thread just a bit ago.
3. What are your thoughts on Kevin and July? (not to mention J as I asked you before whenever you read through).
I'm not trying to make him look bad, it was more of a taunt. Anyone else could have made the observation that I did.This is crap. You're openly trying to make J look bad for not voting you.
You mean all of those times you posted randomly you didn't read anything? I don't buy it and I don't buy that you didn't know, you came into this thread nonchalant trying to pretend that you didn't have a clue what was going on.
My bull**** radar is off the heezy.Definitely couldn't secure your lynch due to the fact that Zen is claiming a guilty on Kary.
Plus before I respond to July/Soup/Ran/Nabe I am going to re-read.
Seriously so many people posting walls at me and if Zen is lying about kary I am going to be even more upset.
Nabe, if I was the necromancer, why would I say that I'm the necromancer?Bard, are you serious about the Necro claim? Also, could you flesh out your recent reads (J/Kev/July) as in each case I'm not sure what the bodies are.