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NECROMAFIA | Game Over! Shortest game in Dgames?

#HBC | Kary

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Kary, give me your ORIGINAL thought process as to what spurred your #367 w.r.t. lynching Zen for lying.
I already did, bro. Here:

Am I scumreading Zen? No. I have him as a town-lean, because I construe what he's doing as pro-town in that he's pushing me/others for a reaction. On the other hand, were Zen to actually whip up my lynch, I think he would be worth looking at on my flip. Maybe in that case he is town, just very confident. On the other hand, maybe he's just scum.
If you want me to spell it out further, here it is. Right now I don't think Zen is worth looking into. On the other hand, if I'm dead tomorrow, I think Zen is worth looking into, because the way he's playing seems very easy to play as scum; pick a player who's relatively easy to lynch and feign super-confidence.

Why would it be different tomorrow? Because I'm giving Zen the benefit of the doubt. I'm assuming at some point he's going to pull his head out of his arse, stop posting non-content like this:
Kary it aint a gambit my man. I do think it's swag of you to continue attempting to post as town though.
and not just lynch me for ****s and giggles, then try to pick up the pieces.


Underlined, did you express V/LA in other threads/the social thread?

Bolded, I think Zen daycopped you because he was concerned with your play, and he outed himself because it's the optimal play to out scum.
Yes.

And you're wrong.

You're doing that thing again where you twist the evidence to meet your conclusion. Zen scumread me off the pre-game, but rather than pushing for my lynch on that basis, he's used a daycop on someone he's already sure of, and then outed himself.
Also, there is no daycop.

And I can't read July past the sense of level-headedness I get from her posts yet. Going to keep her at null until I see something I consider actually pushing an agenda.
 

#HBC | Kary

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But the reason I came in here was to

Unvote: J


Vote: Macman


Because I can't really read J when he's on the back foot, and I have a feeling that Macman lurks as scum. Readslist incoming pending a re-read.

@Bardull: What's your read on Kantrip?

@Macman: What's your read of Kantrip/Barull, and why?

@Nabe: What's your read on Soup?
 

BarDulL

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Vote: Kary

Kary, who should go on your townflip?
do you mean, aside from zen, for lying?

i would say j, as he's my top scumpick at the moment


i spilt soup on my laptop, so i'll be v/la til i can fix it, fyi

Did you not read your own exchange? It says here that you think Zen should go on the premise of lying, not "Zen is worth looking into upon my flip."
 

#HBC | Kary

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what, are you expecting me to generate a thought process from what I said?

or actually explain my thought process?

i obviously wouldn't look into Zen just because he's lying, otherwise I'd be looking into him now.
 

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Yes.

You're doing that thing again where you twist the evidence to meet your conclusion. Zen scumread me off the pre-game, but rather than pushing for my lynch on that basis, he's used a daycop on someone he's already sure of, and then outed himself.
Also, there is no daycop.

And I can't read July past the sense of level-headedness I get from her posts yet. Going to keep her at null until I see something I consider actually pushing an agenda.
Alright. I'll check that out when one of your games finish.

I don't see how him being concerned means he is unsure. I am not twisting any facts here, and you should know that a daycop coming out when he finds scum, is 1 for 1 and is optimal. I also want to know why you think there isn't a daycop in this setup. Also, early on in the start of d1 you voted July, yet you have her as null now. Why did you vote her?

Vote: Macman[/B]

Because I can't really read J when he's on the back foot, and I have a feeling that Macman lurks as scum. Readslist incoming pending a re-read.
Underlined, what gave you this feeling?
 

BarDulL

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what, are you expecting me to generate a thought process from what I said?

or actually explain my thought process?

i obviously wouldn't look into Zen just because he's lying, otherwise I'd be looking into him now.
Are you trying to be dense?

You TOLD NABE THAT YOU WANTED ZEN DEAD ON YOUR FLIP. You did not say "I would look into Zen."

I'll construct it for you:

Nabe asks you who you think should go after you die. You respond with "aside from Zen for lying, yada yada." What even in the ****. Your very clear answer here was that you wanted Zen dead on your flip. Why are you trying to play it off as if you meant to say "I think Zen should be checked out." Are you just trying to save face or what?
 

Circus

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“All that we hunt you for, we are.”

Vote Count
Kary [5]: Ramen King, Ranmaru, Ragnarock, Nabe, Bardull
J [1]: Ryker
July [1]: KevinM
Bardull [1]: Kantrip
Macman [1]: Kary
Ranmaru [0]:
Kantrip [0]:
Ramen King [0]:
Nabe [0]:
Ragnarock [0]:
KevinM [0]:
Ryker [0]:

Not Voting: Macman, July, J

With 12 players alive, 7 votes are required for lynch.

Deadline: Monday, September 24th, 11:59pm EST
 

ranmaru

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*takes deep breath*

*YELLS AT MACMAN*

MACMAN GET IN THE **** IN HERE. :glare:
 

#HBC | Kary

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Alright. I'll check that out when one of your games finish.

I don't see how him being concerned means he is unsure. I am not twisting any facts here, and you should know that a daycop coming out when he finds scum, is 1 for 1 and is optimal. I also want to know why you think there isn't a daycop in this setup. Also, early on in the start of d1 you voted July, yet you have her as null now. Why did you vote her?

Underlined, what gave you this feeling?
Ran if you like I will point out how you're making things up to support your read, but you probably won't believe me. I can reassure you, the odds of there being a daycop, are none. And I already answered that the July vote was for pressure.

Meta on Macman, relating to Celebrity Rehab + another game.

Nabe asks you who you think should go after you die. You respond with "aside from Zen for lying, yada yada." What even in the ****. Your very clear answer here was that you wanted Zen dead on your flip. Why are you trying to play it off as if you meant to say "I think Zen should be checked out." Are you just trying to save face or what?
Someone asks me, not even halfway into D1, who I would want dead D2, and you genuinely thought I was going to be 100% certain in my response? No, don't be ridiculous. I am bored of you misreading/strawmanning me, so can you please just sort it the **** out. While you're at it, maybe answer my question viz Kantrip. Cheers.
 

BarDulL

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Ran if you like I will point out how you're making things up to support your read, but you probably won't believe me. I can reassure you, the odds of there being a daycop, are none. And I already answered that the July vote was for pressure.

Meta on Macman, relating to Celebrity Rehab + another game.



Someone asks me, not even halfway into D1, who I would want dead D2, and you genuinely thought I was going to be 100% certain in my response? No, don't be ridiculous. I am bored of you misreading/strawmanning me, so can you please just sort it the **** out. While you're at it, maybe answer my question viz Kantrip. Cheers.
Didn't really read this post. Something about trying to backpedal out of wanting Zen dead. Gross. You may as well just claim now, there's no going back at this point.
 

#HBC | Kary

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No, it's fine, I quit.

just so i'm clear; i'm probably not going to post again.
you make me not want to post, that's what you get.

next time i get a private invite i'm going to ask who's on the playerlist

lynch J, or not, I don't care anymore.

I'd self vote but that's going too far.

Have fun without me.
 

BarDulL

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What the heck?

Uh, ok. You can just replace out if you really don't want to play.

Also, I'm not saying this to be mean or to rub salt in the wound, but sometimes people are going to hard tunnel your slot and that's just how it is. :ohwell:.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Zen, I really hope for your sake you're not bull****ting.
 

BarDulL

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Someone put Kary at L-1. Doesn't matter who. Kary can self hammer if he wants to, doesn't make a difference.
 

#HBC | Kary

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No, **** it.

I told myself I wasn't going to worry about this game, because, bottom line, if I get lynched D1 by a bunch of ****ing ******* that won't even argue you with you badly let alone actually know how to string together a logical train of thought, then it's not on my head. But **** it.

I really want to just write this game off right now, because it has been a **** experience for me top to bottom. I don't know why ever even bothered trying not to flip out because it has just made it worse. I came into this game really
really hoping
that this would finally be the game where I get along with other players and don't have to constantly bang my head against the wall because they're being ****ing ******* again.
No, this isn't just differences in playstyle, i'm not going to be polite about it. You guys can go and suck a ****, because, bottom line, you can't put an argument together for two ****s. That's fine and all, because despite your utter lack of any sort of skills in this department, everyone will read you as town and so you'll be at worst a distraction.

IF YOU ACTUALLY THINK THERE IS A DAYCOP IN THIS GAME
YOU CAN DIE IN A FIRE

I CAN CONFIRM
YES, CONFIRM
THAT THERE ISN'T

Now, given this, there is one good reason for Zen to insist that he has a daycop. It's because he's super-confident that I'm scum.

WHAT THE **** DO YOU WANT ME TO DO IN THE FACE OF THAT?

I tried ****ing not blowing up for the sake of it, because, seriously, what good does postponing my lynch for a couple days do anyways? It's just another gogdamn game where everyone is constantly suspicious of Kary not least because he can actually string a thought process together and actually reads people's posts.

Zen you're not a ****ing daycop and every time you say you are it makes me want to wring your ****ing neck; I don't give two ****s whether you're scum or not- in reality your play is somewhat better if you are scum, because apparently people are following you down this piss poor path that you have chosen.

In a perfect world i'd be scum right now so I could ****ing turn this on your head and hang you up by the utterly bull**** things you're trying to lynch me on. But no, you probably are town. You probably are just another ****ing ****** town. Remember ERB where you mislynched your way into the ground, and thought myself/J was scum because of our UTTERLY CONSISTENT set of scumpicks?

Because I don't mind that you're flighty and confident and you do your own thing. What does my ****ing head in is that you don't ****ing listen. You don't ****ing pay attention to anything most people have to say, and in particular, anything I have to say, ever. I don't even care that you're incapable of reading me down to a tee, but that you can't ****ing pay attention to what's blindingly obvious makes me want to drive nails into your face with extreme prejudice, then maybe pour in some basic critical thinking and conversation skills.

Dear Bardull

I have come to the conclusion that you're a ****head in mafia games because you're a ****head in real life.

I don't think I ever want to have a conversation with you again

Goodbye


Right, who else is on my waggon? I don't really care. Bottom line, what do you get from my lynch? Not a ****ing lot. With ****ing hyper Ran/Soup/Zen flying around, this game will no doubt descend into even more of a ****storm than it already is, with everyone doing their own ****ing thing and not using their ****ing head. Whoever is scum will just lurk or fencesit as you dig yourselves an early grave.

To the few people in this game who I actually like/respect, i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm playing like **** and throwing all these curse words around. But the lunatics have got out of the asylum and there's not a lot I can ****ing do. My gut says to just shoot them in the head but they're people after all.


Here's the short 1-2

#1 why am I scum? Because I sure as **** haven't been 'backpedalling' or 'imitating Ran' or 'joking things off' as people claim.

#2 what have I been doing this game? Trying to ignore the torrent of utter bull**** being sprayed in my direction, and actually generate some kind of content. Of course, I have more or less failed spectacularly, because every time I come into the thread I have someone else being a ****** in my direction, and I can't bear to look at the thread anymore because it's a ****storm I don't want any part of.

I wish Ryker/July/someone with their head screwed on would come back so I could actually talk things.

AND I AM SICK OF BEING ****ING IGNORED

ZEN; THE FIRST ****ING THING I asked in this game, 'why exactly am i not being nonchalant' you INSTANTLY turned round and asked at me, because you have ZERO interest in actually playing ball with town, and are ONLY interested in doing your own ****ing thing.
That it has come down to this just makes me ****ing sick, and I know you won't ****ing learn from this, but I really hope you ****ing do. You're a ****ing liability, and I looked up your Catherine playstyle. I thought Ryker did a really good job of turning you upside down like mario flipping a koopa. It's what you deserve every game, because i'd always rather have you with your legs waving in the air so that you don't cause any ****ing trouble.

But answer me this, just this.

How many times have you actually been right when you've been this confident?
Or, when are you going to ****ing learn?

I don't mind if you throw this game, I really don't. Beyond this eff off post, I don't think there's anything I can really do. I suppose I could find where you live, travel there, and knock some ****ing sense into you. But at least in making this, perhaps I can communicate some measure of my utter ****ing frustration at how ****ing stupid you're being.

So yeah, this probably is my last post. Why would I come back to a game like this?

Oh, and yeah, obviously replacing out is a good idea. Except for the poor ****ing sap that has to pick up my slot. Uh, no. I'll quite happily prod dodge or otherwise not do anything this game, and not have to burden anyone else with being in this game. Congratulations on misreading me on this, as well.

J > Nabe > ? for a lynch order, but probably NL today.

don't **** this up.
 

#HBC | J

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Yeah, I'm not lynching Kary.

I feel me and Kary are just getting jerked around due to a domino effect of anyone being too stubborn to come up with original scum-reads of their own. No one has presented a case on Kary and I have been careful of what I am doing with my vote around him and after that last post, hell to the no will I probably be voting Kary anytime soon. Even more so that I can relate to him of the utter annoyance this game is bringing because people are being just plain annoying. I mean seriously, Kary and I have not been given a fair chance at all this game yet because everyone just continues to berate either Kary for no fair reason besides Zen's gambitty thing and Myself for just being attacked for not agreeing with the "conformist" view this town has so far. It's actually just bad.

In a town full of tools, I can't believe people like myself and Kary are being called tools.
 

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Haven't read yet, but based off of Kary and J's last posts, Kary town J scum. J is setting himself up for town points on Kary's town flip.

Vote: J
 

Ramen King

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Kary I honestly respect your play and that post. You say that I was confident about you being scum pregame, but that's not the case. I'm never 100%, otherwise I wouldn't have investigated you. You're wrong about there not being a day cop in this game. I just chose to use it differently than how most other people would. You all have been partially right about the gambit however and I guess I have no choice but to out it now. I'm one shot and I did in fact investigate you and you are guilty. I would have liked to not reveal that it was only one shop, but I feel that's probably the reason why I'm giving off the gambit vibe. You are guilty Kary and J is your scumbuddy. Even if you are not buddies and are on different factions, you're still both scum.

Bardull & Kantrip I am not ****ing around here. You need to put your votes back on. I feel J is scum too. We will get him tomorrow. But Kary is going today.
 

Kantrip

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So we lynch Zen first since his ability was one-shot anyways. Then if he flips daycop we can lynch kary. Otherwise he can **** off.
 

BarDulL

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This is the part where I'd link can you feel the love tonight, but I'm in class and on my phone. It'll have to wait for another time.

:phone:
 
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