Kantrip
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That's directed at Bardull. I unvoted Kary because I don't feel he needs pressure, and if the guilty's legit then we can do it later. I see no benefit in sheeping you right now.
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You really look at it that way? I thought it completely unnecessary to come in here and post that, the point I was making after all is how Ranmaru does show up in random intervals. I dislike it and it just seems pandering.Nabe said:You don't understand why one player would ask another player what the justification for his unjustified scumread is?
Maybe you picked a bad example.
I asked for confidence. Not ignorance.Kantrip said:@Whoever asked why I didn't feel like posting today: Got dumped. I've skimmed stuff, didn't go in depth with anything, and don't feel like analyzing. July's reasoning for me town is strange though. Oh yeah, it was Zen since he was telling me to vote his guilty.
How the hell was Bardull voting Kary after Zen has been screaming at everyone about his guilty distancing? If you want to talk about distancing, I'd look at the part where Bardull comes into this thread pretending to seem uninformed or unaware of Zen having said guilty.That distancing was pretty bad.
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Both you and Bardull and playing like absolute garbage. Step the **** up or get shot.Actually yes, you and Zen are trying to distance. Not sure if scum or neighbours or masons or what though. Just, be a little less obvious please![]()
Vote: Kantrip
Kary/Bardull/Kantrip???Vote Bardull
Hello my name is Pot. Have you met my friend, Kettle? What are you two even doing here? I'm trying to think if both of you are being stupid or genuinely scum, I was being semi-serious about my past readlist up there but are really going to call out Bardull on a joking demeanor when you did it yourself just about 3 or 4 posts ago? Or were you actually being serious?Kantrip said:The joking is forced and faked.
distance, not bus. Learn your terms.
uh, i did say distance. If i was legitimately distancing zen, why the hell would i vote for him on the premise that his avatar is that of a character in shaman king?
zen, are you seeing this? Kantrip is actually trying to claim that i was distancing you and unvoted because of it without immediately revoting in the same post. What the fack. Why is kary more important than this?
it gets worse the more i read it.you're joking, right bardull?
Kill them both. I take it back, shoot them both in the head. Maybe Kantrip over Bardull, he seems redeemable but Kantrip is just going in circles right now.Kantrip said:Bardull, the fact that the vote was joking and baseless is part of why it's distancing. You must be new here.
I find myself crouching over my Keyboard trying to understand what Kantrip did in the last one-two pages (depend on which PPP you are, I'm 40ppp master race) and I either come to the conclusion of Dumb Or Scum.Kantrip said:Yeah, you caught me. The distancing thing was a lie. GG Kantrip scum
You're insane. We need to talk about this.Ramen King said:TvT imo
My questions were not pointless, I had reasons for them all. If you really had a problem with my questions, why didn't you bring that up when you asked me about the question I addressed to Kary? I gave you the reasons for why I asked him that, and instead you said "Ok I'll come back when it gets interesting". The thing is you are only accusing me of seeming town after I said that Kary was. Not before. I can agree with Zen if I see the same thing he does. I'm not going to try to look for OTHER scum if I feel the scum are already on the radar. If I see something that sticks out as scummy besides you/kary, I will express it. You also are saying "this game" as if we have been in the game for a few days. That was only my play from early pre-game to the beginning of the official game. How else would I find OTHER scum at that time, if I didn't think anything else was scummy? I for sure don't think Kanty is scum for your weak reasons. No one else seemed scummy to me at the time. The thing is J, I didn't think you were scummy until after my initial questions to Kary. In regards to Kary, I noticed Zen say that Kary seemed to be playing his NewbScum self, and I could see that [Remember that Kary was my strongest scumread in Breaking Bad Mafia, so can you try to look at it from my pov?] and pushed in that direction to see how he reacted. Why did I do so? Because it was rvs. There wasn't anything solid until after my questions. When I respond to Soup I'll explain what I got from the questions he felt were 'pointless' 'pulpfiction mode'.The exact things you said about Kary in this post Ranmaru, could be said against you. You are asking pointless questions trying to look as if you are doing things and just following Zen's lead at the current time. You do not have your own mind at all this game and are just content to follow Zen around with whatever he has going on. Right now, Zen is doing all the work in trying to poke/solidify his scum-reads (which he most likely will not change, stubborn man.), but you are just his little cheerleader atm. As you continue on, it shows more:
Yes, that question to Kanty felt misplaced. Like, you were trying to create something ON THE SPOT, when you could have waited instead to read people over time. This made me feel that you were being defensive, due to what was already happening on that very page. I didn't say your entire play was defensive, just your reaction towards Kanty. To be more clear, I feel you were being defensive because it seemed like something poked at you and you reacted, in a desperate and opportunistic way.Defensive? I've been more offensive this game w.r.t. everything I have been involved in. I also wasn't defending anyone and you literally just copied your words from Zen's posts.
Underlined, you say he is trying to keep a middle ground in his defense, but I don't see it that way because you didn't really bring any attack at all. Just a vague FoS.What I am not liking about you thus far is the fact that you are treading carefully in your word choices when saying things. An example would be what you just said to me, you aren't looking into what I am saying but more so trying to mollify what I am doing to your slot by trying to guess what I may be doing. Whether it be real pressure, pseudo pressure, or just curiosity. You are trying to keep a middle ground of your defense.
In post 71, you create yourself a backdoor in an attempt to justify your reads for later on by saying you are going to be more confident regardless of what is going on. I don't get why you chose to cop-out and answer "oh no one is going to be easy to read." which isn't really true because everyone has a player that they feel more comfortable with reading correctly in this game. Instead, you decided to just not give out a name. Seems weird to me.
I explained it above.Kanty thing is new though. Jumpy? No/How? Opportunistic? No/How? Blowing out of proportion? No/How?
I meant that I'm not trying to force 10 questions down one person's throat that would get us no where, like in Pulp Fiction. That, did not happen here. I did get conclusions from my questions, and I don't see why you are trying to act like you are psychic and say if I got conclusions or not. Yes, seeing Zen saying that Kary was scum, was what made me ask Kary those questions to see how he'd react, since it was just very rvs like. I did get a conclusion from it, and that was the he didn't have any real reason to ask J to proxy his vote. That right there, shows he is trying to fake doing something to seem town, which he had done as newb scum, and that is why I felt he was deff scummy. So, what else would you expect me to do? Nothing else had happened that I felt was scummy. Anything questionable? Yes, Nabe's statement about you. Did I find it scummy? No. Like I said to J, I'm not going to try to look else where for scum whenOne question? You've asked like ten, all with nonconclusive answers and nothing gained from them. Why'd you vote Kary again? I don't recall you ever making a question or a statement that lead up to it, but instead you're letting Zen do all the arguments and then just shake your head in agreement. Have you even factored your read on Zen? You instantly began to ride the buddy train at any moment you could, I didn't even see any effort for you to read Zen but you just assumed Zen was somehow town and his word was the one to follow.
What argument? Soup, tell me what they were arguing about at that very moment. Anyway, the reason why I asked that is because I wanted to know what he would say about you, and I wanted to know why he asked J about the proxy vote. (I asked about you because you had enough content to read, it was a throw in) So don't act like it was an interruption, because I don't see it that way. Especially since J already replied to Kary's question.Literally, in the middle of an argument between Kary and J, Ranmaru feels the need to ask something like this. Why? This isn't really one of the bigger ones I'm talking about, it's more about the what comes later, and how Ranmaru either forgot how to play mafia completely or he's scum trying to fit in.
Oh damn, that 180 again. I said I needed time to think about things real quick. Don't get your pants in a bundle.
Yes, there was a reason to post that. I wanted to know why he disagreed with townsoup.Literally. No. Reason. To. Post. This. None. At. All. Need I mention he does this consectuively in between arguments? Ryker's meta on Ranmaru can be tried and tested, but you cannot attest to things like this, please tell me how you're going to explain how Ranmaru had a town intention stating this for no other reason other than to seem town. Can someone answer me what Ranmaru is doing? Can someone give me a legitimate answer as to what he's done or how any of his actions make any damn near sense? That's a serious claim by the way.
Kantrip, I feel it is more of Bardull being anti-town for a dumb reason, instead of it just being distancing. Now look at it from my pov, this seems like really dumb distancing between you and Bardull. Can you guys stop being dumb and focus on the real issue here?That distancing was pretty bad.
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You didn't really have a reason to unvote from Kary to a joke vote though. So try to look at it from Kanty's pov. Now then, why did you unvote Kary into a joke about Zen?Zen, are you seeing this? Kantrip is actually trying to claim that I was DISTANCING you and unvoted because of it without immediately revoting in the same post. What the fack. Why is Kary more important than this?
Yeah, that's your own fault. Can you stop being dumb and anti-town? Where is that All-star's Bardull?No, I'm not. I'm like wtf'ing because you exclaimed that I was distancing in what would appear to be the most obvious baseless vote in the history of mankind.