Cory.
Smash Journeyman
can i get an honorable mention or WHAT
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NC Brawl+ PR
- Thread starter NC-Echo
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DtJ SmithZzz
Happy Birthday Kjell
So...who's on the PRs?
Ledger_Damayn
Smash Ace
Yeah, it's a pretty popular trend in this State to quit Brawl or main MK (pretty much the same thing imo), then go to B+.
We find the coolest things in this game. Props to Karn for applying Ganon's gay *** chaingrab -> death combos and G&W's absolutely unpunishable Bair -> Jab combos.
I don't give any props to Jon because he spent 3 hours pillaring me to death today with Ness today.
*CT*
Smash Lord
Man I'm still soul searching for that character.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
i have the best lucas in nc
get at me
get at me
Ledger_Damayn
Smash Ace
Yeah, that's where most people are at. Jon? is just a douche bag (but we still love him, somehow). It's not really all that gay since most (all) characters have equally or at least competitively gay things they can do.I don't know any gay stuff about the game but I still manage to win occasionally
Also, @Ledger's sig: I like that explanation. I've been preaching that for years, good to see people agree with me
Haha, thanks for the props, bro. I actually put that sig up to troll people who know me well enough to know that I'm usually on SOMETHING or other. But mad respect to people who make decisions for themselves instead of being, as Snapp would put it, tools. Let it be known that Ledger isn't a tool because I recently just quit weed ^_^ (because I am farking broke and am seriously questioning if I can afford to even go to Pound yet wouldn't possibly miss it for the world)
If you do stuff because you think it'll make you cool and doesn't afraid of anything, you're a tool. I just do it because I'm bored and I'm in college. Lol.
Keith_Da_Thief
Smash Journeyman
i learned how to 0 -death fast fallers with c. falcon, and i found out that falco has a chain grab on all heavies, all spacies, from 0-90 , and on floaties its 0- 60,**** is broken they need to fix dat ****
No johns, bro
*P*L*U*R*
Smash Hero
I wanna play Brawl+
lol are those vids from omni's ever gonna go up?
lol are those vids from omni's ever gonna go up?
lord karn
Smash Master
I'll be back in Raleigh for thanksgiving break sometime after tomorrow, you should play melee/b+ with me and david.I wanna play Brawl+
lol are those vids from omni's ever gonna go up?
*P*L*U*R*
Smash Hero
I'm actually off tomorrow but I'm going to Rocky Mount for Thanksgiving and then I'm gonna be with my girlfriend all weekend. arrrrggg
lord karn
Smash Master
arrarrrrrrg!!!!
mr.fizwidget
Smash Champion
the best way to get people's attention...
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggg
works every time
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggg
works every time
*P*L*U*R*
Smash Hero
Have we had enough tourneys to justify having a Brawl+ PR?
stingers
Smash Obsessed
too bad it flopped at billfest
*P*L*U*R*
Smash Hero
does nc have ANY brawl+ vids at all?
lord karn
Smash Master
Overall, I'm very against the new build. @_@
mr.fizwidget
Smash Champion
.............................
bill said there hasnt been an update for the past 4 months...
there is no way to make a top 10 list for a game that is ever changing...
when a final version is released i might show interest
Foxy
Smash Master
I hope the build is not going to be used. I'll try to voice our opinion in the WBR.
Also, I think we've had enough tournaments to start PR discussion, and then maybe wait for the next one (and hype it to make sure all potential ranked players show up) before finalizing and publishing the rankings.
Also, I think we've had enough tournaments to start PR discussion, and then maybe wait for the next one (and hype it to make sure all potential ranked players show up) before finalizing and publishing the rankings.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
i have old vids of me playing jim, and a set vs falco400 on wifi lol
lord karn
Smash Master
I talked to Corey about it for a while and he seemed to agree with me, but it doesn't seem like he'll push them to change it back, either.
I just don't understand why they waited months to release a new build if they are only now going to change the game mechanics completely. We don't need reduced hitstun and NADT, combos are not all that cookie cutter like people have been complaining if you learn how to DI. The main problem is that no one has gotten good enough at the game to really show the potential of the combo game. I know that when I play David he does a lot of crazy stuff on me, and I did some crazy combos in my mms with Yay and Bill.
Making these changes now is only going to further discourage good players from picking up B+, because there is no point in actually learning what your character is capable of in depth. There is always the possibility that they will make another game-breaking change. I thought that level of change was over with 5.0, so I started learning Ganon in depth, but now it seems that all of my work was pretty much useless.
I personally think they should only make balance changes as the metagame develops. Like they should obviously nerf Ness and a few other characters, but they don't have to change any mechanics.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
If people are already doing such crazy combos this early into the metagame, by the time people actually really get comfortable with the game and learn ****, it'll just be ********.
lord karn
Smash Master
But if people actually DId right the combos your seeing would not always work, and would require prediction to keep going.
*P*L*U*R*
Smash Hero
What is NADT?
mr.fizwidget
Smash Champion
stingers
Smash Obsessed
The WBR engineered the moves to link into each other too well. Things shouldn't be so easy mode, regardless of DI. Current Brawl+ combo videos aren't exciting because everything they show is basic, even if the combos are 10 moves long and lead to death. Not even 64 (and certainly not melee) had it that bad.
lord karn
Smash Master
No Air-dodge During Tumble
*P*L*U*R*
Smash Hero
oh, that doesn't seem so bad. Can't you just wiggle tech out of tumble and then airdodge? Hell, I wiggle tech in melee. It kinda makes sense that they would reduce the hitstun since you would have to wiggle out and then airdodge.
How much did they drop hitstun by?
New version is pretty much a pos. Except that when corey came over we got to play with zero and he is the ****ing ****. Honestly, i'd just main that bad ***, he's so ****ing good. ****, it was like like Yoda and **** just ****ing flying around spinning his sword and ****. So OP sooooo fun. He's like metaknight good but not a dip**** to play. Its ****ing yoda son.
But yeah, new build bad, metaknight is still awesome, but we really don't know enough about the game to do **** about ****, which is the problem. No one good is actually testing this **** out, like really really testing it out (at least thats what it looks like). People on the forums just keep arguing their usual bull **** and don't even know what they are talking about.
Good example, right now they are discussing how they need to nerf metaknights sideB cuz its too good with auto snap, but they added instant release to ledge grabs, so we can be invincible and he isn't so we win if we time time it right. But no one mentions that. It doesn't matter if they can autosnap or not because your ****ing invincible.
But yeah, **** that ****, me and karn actually started practicing this game, which is a big deal for me, cuz i don't give a ****, and now all that work is wasted as ****. This game is pretty much going to be a side game for pros to win at vB tourneys for the next year.
But yeah, new build bad, metaknight is still awesome, but we really don't know enough about the game to do **** about ****, which is the problem. No one good is actually testing this **** out, like really really testing it out (at least thats what it looks like). People on the forums just keep arguing their usual bull **** and don't even know what they are talking about.
Good example, right now they are discussing how they need to nerf metaknights sideB cuz its too good with auto snap, but they added instant release to ledge grabs, so we can be invincible and he isn't so we win if we time time it right. But no one mentions that. It doesn't matter if they can autosnap or not because your ****ing invincible.
But yeah, **** that ****, me and karn actually started practicing this game, which is a big deal for me, cuz i don't give a ****, and now all that work is wasted as ****. This game is pretty much going to be a side game for pros to win at vB tourneys for the next year.
*P*L*U*R*
Smash Hero
Combo videos in GENERAL aren't that exciting anymore. we see the same stomp-> Nair -> UAir -> Knee **** from CF all the time.
The same Bair -> Uair -> Rest bs from Jiggz
Ubiquitous sword swipe -> Ubiquitous sword swipe-> Dair from Marth
Stomp ad nauseum -> Fair from Ganon
You get the ****ing point. The problem isn't with the game. It's with the community's a) suckiness at DIing out of that BS and b) lack of creativity.
Once the community actually learns how to avoid that stuff, people will start becoming more creative. FYI, I think the last version of Brawl+ had less hitstun than Melee. Silly, eh?
Wow, hitstun is THAT low? That's silly.
Why the **** would they do that? Some characters NEED auto-snap with their UP-Bs. Hell, I wish Ness and Lucas had auto-snap.
Smashers, I swear, I'll never understand them.
Apparently it's broken.
Lucario's lack of free fall after the upB makes him broken, too
Considering that there were no other changes made to him (except like...running speed I think. And faster fall speed)
Foxy
Smash Master
If anyone wants to share more opinions about the new build, post them here and I will in turn post them in the WBR. I'm already making a thread about it.
I want the game to stay how it is and I want you guys to have a voice, as we're probably the most dedicated and experienced state with B+.
I want the game to stay how it is and I want you guys to have a voice, as we're probably the most dedicated and experienced state with B+.
Veril
Frame Savant
NY says hi
get *****
~10% less hitstun does not = vBrawl. The melee hitstun mod was .44, the beta has .46, 5.0 has .48.
lrn2math
I loled. First off, I've tested this game more than you and all your friends. Its because of this that I know you're talking out of your a**. If you actually fail at recovering with MK's side-b in 5.0... edgehogging it usually fails due to its duration. Unless the MK is super far away that won't work. I don't agree with that nerf personally, but your rant was still based on a false assumption.