n00b's HugS in Brawl

n00b · Mar 14, 2009

DelxDoom · Mar 14, 2009

nair is a decent interrupter

zair through stage is fun

iono only watched first vid, will edit

you're good

-k at this point i watched the first set
you like uair but it doesn't work all the time. sh uair nair is a mixup you can use.
DI for Falco's dthrow? should you just DI away and nair or something idunno

n00b · Mar 14, 2009

^ j4pu knows exactly when to stop cging and when to go for dair to jab cancel to dthrow again... :\
before i could di out -> uair-> jab but not so much

thx for the advice on the uair nair mixup, ill try it out :]

THEND · Mar 14, 2009

n00b i love your signature.

DelxDoom · Mar 14, 2009

what sucks about playing against Falco is that his lasers absolutely mess with Samus's sh zair and missile game. which is why i am surprised at how good you do in these vids, I personally can't deal with laserz

Crystanium · Mar 14, 2009

THEND said:
n00b i love your signature.

n00b likes to be funny like that. I don't know where he got that from. Go on, click on

in n00b's signature. It should tell you where I said that. Or not.

n00b · Mar 14, 2009

You can't delete your post to hide something embarrassing after i've already quoted it. That's a symptom of *****assness...

DemonFart · Mar 14, 2009

LOL,noob.

Deleting post when u sigged it is funny.

n00b · Mar 14, 2009

More critique, less laughing at Dryn, I don't want the Samus boards to enjoy lulz, I'm more focused on improving my Samus. :rolleyes:

tha_carter · Mar 14, 2009

n00bs, if i catch you wearing my pink suit again.... there'll be problems. =P

the falco is just not as good as the samus. Lots of samus mind games and offstage ****, but nothing from the falco. J4pu, stop jumping into ****. Shield dash IF you feel the need to approach. Other the that, spam his *** and be more patient. And stop with the reflectorphobia, no need to be afraid to use it offstage too.

First match's music is TOO good.

Xyro77 · Mar 14, 2009

n00b said:
More critique, less laughing at Dryn, I don't want the Samus boards to enjoy lulz, I'm more focused on improving my Samus.

IMO, all falco match-ups can be won no matter how good the falco is.

do what i do now days, get a % lead and ledge camp tll timer runs out. falco can do ABSOLUTLY nothing to you while u ledge camp.

n00b · Mar 14, 2009

I'll upload a set of j4pu ****** me when I'm done studying. Also, HugS himself, in person let me use pink suit as long as I wear his melée tag.

Xyro77 · Mar 14, 2009

n00b said:
I'll upload a set of j4pu ****** me when I'm done studying. Also, HugS himself, in person let me use pink suit as long as I wear his melée tag. r

wow, really. HugS is never comming back now........me sad.

Crystanium · Mar 14, 2009

n00b said:
You can't delete your post to hide something embarrassing after i've already quoted it. That's a symptom of *****assness...

Whatever, n00b. I'm not in the mood, and I don't care about your quote-mining and taking what I said prior to me being a moderator. I understand, you don't like me. That's fine. Whatever. Let's all move along now.

n00b · Mar 14, 2009

^ uh ok w/e

^^ @sexyallansamuswizard: I'm just keeping the crown warm until HugS feels like becoming best Brawl Samus in socal. Until then I'm trying to show you can still incorporate some melée tricks (up b oos, retreating dsmash, jab cancel pressure)

J4pu · Mar 14, 2009

tha_carter said:
n00bs, if i catch you wearing my pink suit again.... there'll be problems. =P

the falco is just not as good as the samus. Lots of samus mind games and offstage ****, but nothing from the falco. J4pu, stop jumping into ****. Shield dash IF you feel the need to approach. Other the that, spam his *** and be more patient. And stop with the reflectorphobia, no need to be afraid to use it offstage too.

First match's music is TOO good.

There's a very good reason for not using reflector off-stage, if I jump and use it at the same time, i end up in the same place I started, maybe slightly forward, and without a second jump anymore, which means I'm forced to use UpB if I'm too low, which means I die.
If i just use reflector without jumping I fall to my death.
Falco's reflector in brawl is a laggy *****, it is not very useful if they are near you or you are off-stage.
and yes, i also noticed I jump into the ****.
Also, n00b is too amazing.
too much laser/phantasm spam in friendlies is not cool, it doesn't help me practice at all and it makes the game boring as hell

RaigothDagon · Mar 14, 2009

It was hilarious how j4pu kept on falling for the fsmash spam you did in vid #2. I was wondering when he'd figure it out. None of this is online I assume, which if I'm right, makes that all the more hilarious.

n00b · Mar 14, 2009

^ lol I kept doing full dash interrupted by pivot fsmash over and over every time he tried to dash, grab, or roll, and he kept saying "STOP GETTING BEHIND ME" lolol

Keep an eye out for another set vs. xoxokev

and j4pu consistently 2stocking me

tha_carter · Mar 14, 2009

j4pu. the reflector can reflect on the way back to falco, and even a little after he's caught it. Use it early. common misconception is that falco should jump and reflect at the same time if he's off the stage. If you werent so easily gimped, and didnt jump into ****... you would win ALOT more in this matchup. seriously.

And id think to get HugS back, youd wanna show him that samus can WIN. lol, which nobodys proving. Id want wes back.

n00b · Mar 14, 2009

^ yo HugS can win with ROB so why bother putting in the effort with Samus? haha
at least vs JonT's DDD I did a zair->dash attack-> jab cancel x2 -> up B. HugS liked the jab cancels and up B hehe

j4pu vids coming up soon, xoxokev vids here:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=F247A18FD6D3BDCE

RaigothDagon · Mar 14, 2009

Alright, I'm going to take a guess about the video in match 1 set 2. J4 was trying to dair n00b, but Brawls buffering system kept on making him dsmash. He did win, but man, do I hate the buffering system for when stuff like that happens.

Anyway, I watched all the vids n00b, nice job in dealing with Falco. I didnt see much variation in the missles, just a bunch of homing. Against Falco that is very good, because any missle that could possibly be reflected back at you is minimized by them being weak, easy to avoid missles, and yet it still puts the pressure on him.

I liked the way you punished him for using his shield during your aerial approach. You always seemed to use uair when he did that, which I believe puts more lag on him than it does on you, and gives you the opportunity to chain to other moves.

I'm a little bit curious as to what you try to chain after your zair->dash attack. In set 1 match 3 at about 1:23, you try that, but then like the other attempts I've seen in the other videos, you don't follow up. Do you try what you do vs DDD, or what?

J4pu · Mar 14, 2009

yea, i kept trying to drop through the platform> Dair

n00b normally does dash attack> turn around jab-cancels> something else

n00b · Mar 14, 2009

Im only comfortable with using Up B on stages with high platforms like battlefield or if the opponnt is at higher percents. Otherwise I just have a bad habit of jabbing??

RaigothDagon · Mar 14, 2009

I think jabbing isnt a bad habit unless the opponent knows that it has no hitstun. Unless it is anticipated, it usually isnt punished. But I guess an utilt or ftilt would work in between. When it comes to Samus' ground game, I think the tilts work much better than the smashes.

xoxokev · Mar 14, 2009

omg my vids suck... don't watch them UGH

jk watch them. then make fun of me for being sucky

ALLSTAR41 · Mar 15, 2009

hugs isnt coming back as samus in brawl,

J4pu · Mar 16, 2009

n00b asked me to bump this thread
(he has smashboards blocked on his computer until finals are over)
I guess he wants more critiquing from you guys, he didn't put it up here for you to critique me lol, despite me being the one who might need it more.

so, get to critiquing that samus.

n00b · Mar 18, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kc4YXP0RFw

see look i get ***** here :[

DelxDoom · Mar 19, 2009

I hate Yoshi's when playing Samus, the edgegame is messed up due to the waviness of the stage.

Don't get shieldgrabbed on the edge, just do your normal edgestalling fairs and you know, don't go forward with it, just get them out of your face. That gives you room for the standard edgedrop jump airdodge zair thing.

yeah

also ftilt is Samus's best move

ehh just beat him up if he decides to go offstage after you =(

Cherry64 · Mar 20, 2009

Effing **** Balls.
Samus needs more Colors, I totally thought no one else would dare sue ***gy *** pink.
I was wrong Good matches n00b

I now see that jab cancelling can actually do something other than leave you open. but I don't think I'm nearly as good/risky as you are.

P.S. ***gy *** pink Samus is the way to go :D

EDIT: this was the most bleeped out post I've ever seen.
And what is with the seizure inducing lights??

n00b · Mar 20, 2009

^ i suck at dazzle, i dont know why it does that. i'll ask xoxokev to make my vids from now on until i figure it out :[

stupid pinnacle conversion process :\

EDIT: added a buttload of links

RaigothDagon · Mar 23, 2009

Alright, looked at the Xoxokev vids. Diddy is fresh in my mind so I'll comment a little about that. I noticed your spacing was a little bit off on your reverse grab boost (correct me if thats the wrong name) the first few times, and so Diddy caught on after you kept on trying it, so then he just kept on dodging it.

Another thing I noticed you weren't doing enough of were your tilts. I hope my word has credibility, because I believe they are essential against characters that keep Samus from being aggressive. I know it sucks to play slow and campy, but it definitely, at least for me, helps a lot against characters like Diddy.

I'll add more comments as I refresh my memory on the Ness vids, but overall, I wish my Samus was as flashy as yours. Watching vids of an aggressive Samus inspires me to stick with Samus instead of switching mains or just quiting Brawl altogether.

n00b · Mar 23, 2009

Aww thanks, that last comment means a lot. If it means anything to you, the Raigoth cancel was a huge influence on me as far as incorporating and pioneering technical aspects of my playstyle into my game.

DelxDoom · Mar 23, 2009

ftilt is still in the Top 5 of Samus's best moves

uhh I like your combo vid

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