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Monster Island Mafia- Game over! Town wins!

#HBC | Mac

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i laughed at the mad pyramid. I just haven't been paying attention the game much, thats why I asked.
 

#HBC | marshy

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can someone tell me why macman is universally seen as a gg now? from memory it's just because scumfevah attacked him and it's hard to think scum would go bus their godfather? cuz keep in mind the gf wasn't important with the cop outed. need to reread though
 

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This is actually a great situation for the town.

Ok, lets look at what happened...

Yesterday's vote count included...

Scumfever: Mentos, Gheb, Tigerwoods (4)
Macman: Scumfever, Xiivi, Chibo, Marshy (4)

It ended up to be a tie between these two people. Scum won (or loss? lol) the tie breaker and was lynched, flipping scum.

Obviously (hopefully atleast if they are smart), the scumbuddies will do what they can to make sure that tie does not go in favor of scumfever.
This definitely means that no one on scum's wagon was scum. If any of them were scum, I would hope theyd have at least a quarter of a mind to unvote so their mecha overlord wouldn't be lynched.

Town: Mentos, Gheb, Tigerwoods (and this mysterious double voter (who are generally town aligned anyway))

Now the other way for scum to avoid their mecha overlord getting lynched would be to pile majority on someone else. In this case we have:

Macman: Scumfever, Xiivi, Chibo, Marshy (4)
Tigerwoods: Cacti, Xonar, Circus (3)

I know Tiger didn't have 4 like the tie, but I'm mentioning him because of

RAWR: Tiger Woods

If I counted right, there's a three way tie with 4 votes between Tiger, Scum, and Macman. Then Xiivi has two and I have one.
Blue Yoshi was late to the party and missed the deadline, but you can tell from what he said that he perfectly aimed for a bigger tie, which I'm assuming would be in hopes that Scum wouldn't be lynched (either by someone else going for the lynching vote or misunderstanding the rules and thinking last person to the tie would be lynched).

I don't see why someone would intentionally put Blue Yoshi on the tie for another reason tbh.

FoS: Cacti, Xonar, Circus, Blue Yoshi

Blue Yoshi: I wan't to know exactly why you voted Tiger so close to the deadline for (what seems to be) the sole purpose of putting him in the highest vote tie.

Also, what is everyone's scum read on me? I'm surprised to see myself popping up on these scum lists.
 

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Just so ppl caught this from my last post and since people have been discussing who's cleared a bit:

GGs: Mentos, Gheb, Tiger
 

#HBC | Mac

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66:Chibosempai hops on the blue yoshi wagon, started by Junglefever and Blue Yoshi himself.

76:Chibo parrots what Jungle says in the post right before. In the first part of his post, basically says he is down with quick lynching Blue. He begins by saying “as much as i dont wanna quick lynch someone” seemingly using it as a disclaimer so he can’t be accused of wanting to quick lynch. Although he says he wants to lynch Blue, [if I’m reading correctly] in the second part of the post, he says he’s not sure if it’s a plan given by a scumbuddy, or if he really is just a noob. This contradicts the vibe he gave off earlier in the post and is very noncommittal.

80: Says he thinks Blue Yoshi’s whole thing seemed more scummy than JF actions. Not only is this a lightweight defense of JF[definitive scum] it’s a stronger push on Blue. Then he FOSes Gheb, who not only is confirmed townie at this point but was also suspicious of JF and was voting for JF at that point. Definitely starting to see some kind of connection between Chibo and JF and it’s only the first page of the game.

85:Further evidence of similar posts made by both Chibo and JF.

86:This post from Circus bugs me a bit. Just like Chibo and JF he sheds suspicion on Blue Yoshi.

Then chibo and Jf have this lil convo about a potential Jester. Chibo makes a lot of really stupid points, and is actually pushing not lynching someone. So as scum, I wouldn’t really see why he’ d make such a play. Also, his like spiel with JF didn’t seem very SvS. So I’m leaning towards dumb over scum for Chibo, and it’s back to square one.

Chibo still bothers me for continuing to push on Gheb.

In regards to BlueYoshi, I don't think he is really a jester purely because I don't think Smashman would actually include one. It's just what a self-vote is most beneficial for. Regardless, if he acts scummy, we should lynch him like Jungle said. If someone is anti-town, you do not let the possibility that they are a jester deter you from lynching them. Jester-like play could always be a farce by a mafioso. I'm sorry I even brought it up.
How come you said his actions “scream JESTER” in an earlier post if you never thought he could be a Jester than? What point was there in making that point?

108:Beast post by Mentos. Townie points.

110: Someone else joining the Blue Yoshi bw and arguing with Chibo. Two very easy things to do since it seems like everyone else is doing it. Seemingly opportunist post by steel. – Aww steel asked to be replaced.

115:Cacti doesn’t hop on the easy Blue Yoshi wagon. Word.

117:Doesn’t hop on BY, actually lightweight defends him. Also is ignoring Gheb’s post just like me! Word.

123:KirbYosh, another bandwagoner… I think I’m linking to too many posts. I’l scale it down a bit.

147:Interesting analysis. I didn’t really agree with his means of getting there, but the conclusion he made was correct.

162:The bottom of the post is what’s important here. Circus questions Tigers correct analysis, and asks why Gheb is the only one between the two that seems to be town. This of course bothers me a bit now that JF has flipped scum.

huh? read the part with your name chibo
This was funny.

179:Another post by Circus that bothers me. He FOSes 3 people whom I am getting a town vibe from based on this reread. And then says to hop off of Jungle for now.

Would still love for people to expand their reasoning on why KY is town. [marshy/ff]

Thinking the doublevoter is obvious at this point.

Circus starts to get more active after he’s been wagoned. Has a lil argument with FF about activity or more specifically the lack of it.

217Only people I am getting townvibes from and Chaco are on this list. I don’t like this.

Chibo sucks cuz I don’t like his case on me. Marshy sucks cuz he’s been on my nuts all day.

CHACO WAGON!

291: Interesting that he doesn’t hop on the wagon. FOSes Blue who was one of the wagoners. Pretty sure BY is a good dude because of JF’s lightweight pushes of him

315:Don’t know how to feel about this post. It bugs me cuz it seems somewhat fake. But then again I could just be thinking circus is scum and just trying to make him look bad in my head.

Hmm, I’m not sure how I feel about Chaco at this point. He’s uncced cop though so I guess I’ll let him chill.

I’m getting TvS with Chaco and Circus.

Ok Nvm, chaco is looking better now because of JF’s later interactions with him.

376:Better cuz JF’s on it this time, but still crap because I’m on it along with other seemingly townie ppl.

419: Makes me feel a bit better about you.

437:Not as great about you anymore. Jf and Tiger seem to be competing wagons at this point, and you pick Tiger.

Huge case by XONAR on tiger. Xonar hasn’t seemed to be on my radar much this game.

480 and 488:Whack people, voting for me when JF is the play. Lots of scumpoints for Chibo and Marshy.

492:Another post to take note of. Is good because he says JF is the play, but he also doesn’t ever vote for him so iono what to think about this.

So yea my thoughts from my reread. Nothing very conclusive. Chibo and Marshy are still scummy for their last minute votes on me. Circus bugs me a lot too. Not really liking Xonar too much either. Though there’s a certain thing he could claim that would make me trust him a lot more. But I’ll leave that for later if a wagon on him is seemingly gaining steam.

Also a slight defense of me. If I were scum, instead of bussing JF yesterday[and him bussing me in return], we could have easily voted for other people that would have resulted in a NOT JF lynch. I could have kept my vote on xiivi, and JF could have voted Tiger. If I were scum, I think it would have been pretty easy to avoid a JF lynch, unless we were intentionally trying to bus and have one of killed. Just something to think about.

But for now, more Chibo/Marshy/Circus votes.
 

#HBC | Mac

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Marshy continuing to push me is also noted. Chibo's post makes me like him better than Marshy for now.
 

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Also the fact that with the stuff I posted (Mentos Tiger and Gheb are town) only helps confirm with the fact that Gheb flipped town. (When I wrote all that I honestly forgot atm that Gheb was one of the ones that died lol)
 

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To answer Chibo's question:

I was constantly asking what the plan was, and no one was answering. From what I read, my order for more suspiscious people went Tiger/Scum tie, then Macman (of the three with the most votes). I wasn't sure who to vote for exactly, and actually completely mis-counted Scum's vote (one person I thought voted for him actually voted for Xiivi), and completely forgot the double-voter. I had assumed there was still 40 minutes left of voting (got my timezones wrong), so I decided to vote for Tiger, point out that they were all tied, and hope that people discuss at the last minute for who they believe is most likely scum... but no one posted until smashman did.

So basically, in short, I thought there was still 40 minutes left for voting, and I wanted people to discuss in that time who they believed was more like scum (and scumfever/tiger were the two I considered most scum). So that is why I tried to make it a tie... last minute discussion. If you check my posts before as well, I ask (I believe three times in the last 3 hours of voting) who we are lynching.
 

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Went back and read the post near the deadline. Every time I go over it it just seems more and more like Marshy and Chibo are desperate scum scrambling to amass votes on someone other than scumfever at the last second. Chibo looks bad mostly just because he picked jungle as the play and then promptly asked if the deadline was that night.

Marshy just keep looking worse and worse to me. First he was waiting for me to vote so he could jump on, probably hoping to start a non-scumfever wagon. He votes Xiivi but then bails at the lats second just as deadline hits. Now he's feigning ignorance of the situation. I don't buy it. Let's roll folks.

Rawr: Marshy
 

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"King Kong can't make a monkey out of me!" Vote/Rawr Count:

Macman: Marshy (1)

Marshy: Macman, TigerWoods, Frozenflame (3)

Not Rawring:Mentos, Cacti, Xonar, Kirbyoshi, Blue Yoshi, Circus, Chibo, Chaco (8)

Since there are 12 people left, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
 

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Something I was wondering...

I really wanna know what a stunner is. It should be a good role cause of Ghebs posting restriction. Unless he faked it...
 

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^Obv, that's half the game, lol.

Anyways, Vote: Marshy. There ya go Mac.
 

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Vote Marshy

Macs post is too good.

Marshy was the latest person to vote Mac which is where Scum was voting.
 

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you were voting macman with me

lemme reread and give findings so i can live. if no ones swayed then ill claim. feel free to drop hammah if you're scum
 

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Ok, my post wasn't that great at all. I barely came to any definitive conclusions besides still being suspicious of you and Marshy. You realize that what you are bandwagoning Marshy applies to you as well. Why shouldn't you be on the other side of this wagon?
 

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guys chaco claimed in 318. keep in mind that scumfevah was fair game for bussing/distancing afterwards because the cop was no longer a threat. im assuming he was gf. if theres something i learned from wonderland its that overriding your initial read on someone so you can kneejerk to their failure to hop a scum wagon is not the way to go

ggs: kirbyoshi, tigerwoods, blue yoshi, chibo, jerkus, chaco

more when i finish reread reread tomorrow
 

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why are you so convinced that I'm scum? You need to explain your reads especially when i don't agree with alot of them.
 

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Ok, my post wasn't that great at all. I barely came to any definitive conclusions besides still being suspicious of you and Marshy. You realize that what you are bandwagoning Marshy applies to you as well. Why shouldn't you be on the other side of this wagon?
That theory (even though I suggested it as well) can not apply 100% to that wagon since Xiivi was on it who was confirmed town. The only reason I'm still thinking about it is because Scumfever was on it who we know is 100% scum. Marshy was the latest person on there and I'm honestly confused of exactly what to think because of the ppl on the wagon. If he flips town it only helps my case and can also get the town to look into the next wagon.
 

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sigh... Marshy doesn't seem as loud as he did when he was scum in Wonderland and was about to be lynched. And because his BW gained steam abnormally fast. I still want to push his lynch cuz hes been annoying me by being suspicious of me. But my gut's saying to stop unfortunately. Not of the hook though, I really want you to explain your reads because I am not following your thought process at all, and usually it's easier for me to.

unrawr, rawr: ChiboSempai. I feel like he didn't even read my post and was just parroting other people.

FOS: Frozenflame. He never seemed to be suspicious of JF at all, I don't think he ever even mentioned him. His 3 big suspects were Xiivi[confirmed town] me, [confirmed town], and Cacti[someone I think is town for a specific reason]. His only saving grace was that he did not vote for me or Tiger[the two competing lynches] when the deadline reached.

Also, I'm starting to get the sense that scum wasn't properly aware of the lynching scenario. I was confused about when the deadline was, and was surprised to see JF lynched. So I honestly don't know how valid speculating on vote counts will be. Though this is not to say that we should not take them into consideration.

The five people that are on my radar right now are Marshy, Chibo, Circus, Xonar, and FF.
 
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